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Old 10-11-06, 06:24 PM   #16
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Personally, I have a lot of respect for the People of Isreal.

To look at all that has been thrown at them and all that has been sufferred, and they still stand proud.
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Personally, I have a lot of respect for the People of Isreal.

To look at all that has been thrown at them and all that has been sufferred, and they still stand proud.

Only since the 1950s, Arabs and Islam have been around for centuries!
 
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So has Isreal, when it's been allowed to exist.

And I wasn't just referring to the last 50+ years.
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So has Isreal, when it's been allowed to exist.

And I wasn't just referring to the last 50+ years.

Arabs were around first and they controlled the land that is now Isreal way longer before the Jews had it! Only after WWII did the Allies put the Jews on ships and carry them away from a hostile Europe and drop them off there. True there wasn't anything there and the Jews did build the buildings there to live in but it was done on Arab controlled land. No wonder why they are mad. The Allies should have dropped the Jews off in N.Korea instead!
 
Old 10-11-06, 07:53 PM   #20
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So has Isreal, when it's been allowed to exist.

And I wasn't just referring to the last 50+ years.

Arabs were around first and they controlled the land that is now Isreal way longer before the Jews had it! Only after WWII did the Allies put the Jews on ships and carry them away from a hostile Europe and drop them off there. True there wasn't anything there and the Jews did build the buildings there to live in but it was done on Arab controlled land. No wonder why they are mad. The Allies should have dropped the Jews off in N.Korea instead!
It is an ancient hatred that originates with Satan himself. From the day that God Himself showed His favor to the Jewish people, Satan has likewise raged against them. Satan’s primary vehicles that he has used to do this have been several great world empires.

1. Through Pharaoh, the ruler of Egypt, when he ordered the slaughter of every male Hebrew child. (Exodus 1:5-22)

2. Through Shalmaneser, the ruler of Assyria, when he conquered the northern kingdom of Israel and carried away and dispersed ten of the twelve tribes into exile. (2 Kings 17:5,6)

3. Through Nebuchadnezzar, the ruler of Babylon, when he attacked Jerusalem, the capital of the southern Kingdom of Judea, and carried the rest of the Jews off into exile. (2 Kings 24:10-16)

4. Through Haman, the man appointed as second in command over the Medo/Persian Empire, when he attempted to have every Jew in the empire killed. (Esther 3:9)

5. Through Antiochus Epiphanes, the Greek ruler of Syria, when he laid siege to Jerusalem in what the Jewish Historian Josephus describes as one of the bloodiest sieges in Israel’s history. (Daniel 8:23-25; 1 Maccabees 1-6) 6

6. Through Titus, the Roman emperor, who attacked and captured Jerusalem, killing over 1.1 million Jews, and enslaving over 97,000. (Wars of the Jews, VI, ix, 3).

7. Through various Islamic and Christian empires, which we cannot fail to mention. Even Christianity (albeit in a perverted form) has been far from innocent in the bloody history of the Jewish people.

8. Through Adolf Hitler, who killed over six million Jews during World War II.

9. And eventually through the Antichrist and the False Prophet and their future empire, which is prophesied very clearly by the Prophets Zechariah and Ezekiel to attack Jerusalem and kill two thirds of the inhabitants of the nation of Israel. (Zechariah 13:8,9; Ezekiel 38)

Any thinking person at this point must stop and ask: What else can explain such a consistantly bloody and painful history of one people other than an inhuman demonic hatred? Who could instigate such a black and persistent attack against one people who represent such a very small fraction of one percent of the earth’s population - no matter where they dwell? Who else if not the very Devil himself? The history of the Jewish people alone is proof to the open mind that Satan exists and that he hates those whom God loves and declares to be the very, “apple of His eye.” (Zecheriah 2:8).


So with that I go back to my original question what was the ethnicity of the soldiers under Titus who destroyed the city and sanctuary in 70 (Daniel 9)? Surely they all weren't latin speaking white males from Italy like you see in Hollywood movies?

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Old 10-11-06, 08:38 PM   #21
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Yes, Jews have always been a minority and they have their religion chained to their families. So you could actually define them, trace them, mark them. The perfect scapegoat.
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Old 10-11-06, 08:44 PM   #22
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question... why are the jew kicked out of so many places so many times???
why dosent the world just "get along" with u guys?
Because the Jews killed Jesus, their downfall for the rest of enterity. Jesus was not a prophet but the son the Word of God and Jews of those days couldn't believe that instead he must of been some evil dude and went out of their way to kill him - they were jealous that this one man could raise the dead, turn water into wine, walk on water and cure ppl plus also mock the Jewish beliefs - he had to go. Here was a good man that had no intention of evil yet they choose a murderer over Jesus to be saved??? Now we have christians countries siding for Jews, it shows the forgiveness the christain has, would Jews side with christain countries if it were the other way round?
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"Because the Jews killed Jesus, their downfall for the rest of enterity."

Explain how please. Seeing as how a quick reading of the Chrtistian bible would tell me that Pilate condemned the man to death and it was the Roman soldiers who pounded in the nails.

Who killed him?

And just to put things into perspective, who were this mans' alleged "parents," if they weren't Jews?

To bring that point out a bit further, shouldn't you be thanking us Jews for providing YOUR messiah? Or is that too far a stretch for a rabid anti-semite?

And Subserpent, even modern archaelogy has established that the nation of ancient Israel existed long before the nomadic tribes of the Arabian desert became an empire.


The perfect scapegoat.

More often than I'd like........and I'd prefer that consistent situation to be non-existent.
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Old 10-11-06, 10:32 PM   #24
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"Because the Jews killed Jesus, their downfall for the rest of enterity."

Explain how please. Seeing as how a quick reading of the Chrtistian bible would tell me that Pilate condemned the man to death and it was the Roman soldiers who pounded in the nails.

Who killed him?

And just to put things into perspective, who were this mans' alleged "parents," if they weren't Jews?

To bring that point out a bit further, shouldn't you be thanking us Jews for providing YOUR messiah? Or is that too far a stretch for a rabid anti-semite?



The perfect scapegoat.

More often than I'd like........and I'd prefer that consistent situation to be non-existent.
Well for one thing i want to get stright is i am not an anti-semite, im saying from a christain view thats what ive been told. Nor am i christain or belong to any other faith. I prefer God to judge me on my good deeds in my life not whether i belong to some nutty religious organisation who seem to fight over God. Where did i say Jesus wasn't a Jew? Jesus was jewish and was murdered by Jews because of his beliefs that threaten the Jewish law of the time. The man wasn't even evil yet he was crucified for speaking the word, saving lives and teaching good. A christain has said to me this is the Jews downfall.
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"Because the Jews killed Jesus, their downfall for the rest of enterity."

Explain how please. Seeing as how a quick reading of the Chrtistian bible would tell me that Pilate condemned the man to death and it was the Roman soldiers who pounded in the nails.

Who killed him?

And just to put things into perspective, who were this mans' alleged "parents," if they weren't Jews?

To bring that point out a bit further, shouldn't you be thanking us Jews for providing YOUR messiah? Or is that too far a stretch for a rabid anti-semite?



The perfect scapegoat.

More often than I'd like........and I'd prefer that consistent situation to be non-existent.
Well for one thing i want to get stright is i am not an anti-semite, im saying from a christain view thats what ive been told. Nor am i christain or belong to any other faith. I prefer God to judge me on my good deeds in my life not whether i belong to some nutty religious organisation who seem to fight over God. Where did i say Jesus wasn't a Jew? Jesus was jewish and was murdered by Jews because of his beliefs that threaten the Jewish law of the time. The man wasn't even evil yet he was crucified for speaking the word, saving lives and teaching good. A christain has said to me this is the Jews downfall.
It is their downfall and will continue to be their downfall until they accept Jesus Christ as their savior and repent their sins. Jews were the "apple in God's eye" until they betrayed him by killing Christ. Yes, the Romans nailed him to the cross, but it was the Jews that gave him up to be killed off for their defiance in believing that he was a holy person and the son of God. The Jews signed his death warrant and were too cowardly to do it themselves so they had the Romans do it instead. It's like hiring someone to kill someone you don't want to be around anymore. That makes you just as guilty if not even more so.

It wasn't the very act of nailing him to the cross that killed him either. It was the backstabbing and unfaithful Jews that watched him die on the cross and failed to accept him as the savior of mankind from Satan. Jews to this day still defy him and even talk badly about Christ. Of course Jews are going to constantly refuse to accept him because they constantly see that everything and everyone is against them and they viewed Christ as defying his own religion. They are a people who will always see a glass of water as half empty and always greed over and lust for bettering themselves instead of confiding and repenting to Christ. This is why all Jews will go to Hell when they die or until they accept Christ as their savior and repent their sins to him. This is why I choose not to associate myself with too many Jews. Why should I care for lost souls who are only destined to burn for all eternity?
 
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