The split-away crumbs of the hijacked swastika thread - Page 11

10-03-06, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent

You've got a point Viper! Why does August not want to address my point with anything more than a cheap shot to the gut with his famous, "You have no concept of reality" line? :hmm:

Perhaps I struck a nerve and he has to admit to himself that I am right and he is wrong. Therefore he has nothing better to say or facts to come up with to prove me wrong. No wonder I feel the way I do, no one has proven me wrong or what I claim to be UNtrue! Show the proof in the future and quit with all the short, "SubSerpent is crazy" comments. It's not crazy from my viewpoint, so therefore, if your are going to call me crazy you need to prove it in the future.

You're the one leveling all the unsubstantiated crazy charges. The burden of proof is on you to prove your insane asssertions. That's like me throwing a charge out there that John Kerry is a child rapist. And it's up to you to prove it's not true. I'm really shocked SubSerpent if you are truly an adult....or even gone passed the 8th grade.

I could say the same thing about you? But I was thinking more on the lines of 1st grade or lower...:hmm:

Too funny! :rotfl:

Sea Demon · 10-03-06, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent

I could say the same thing about you? But I was thinking more on the lines of 1st grade or lower...:hmm:

Too funny! :rotfl:

Seriously, what grade level have you achieved?

I'm an employed college graduate.

August · 10-03-06, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

Ok that last paragraph of Subserpent is really something I don't agree with, although I'm by no means a Bush supporter. But quoting the whole thing together and discarding EVERYTHING he said with :"you've got no concept of reality" when the other things were true, like you did August, is something which shows a lack of will to discuss it.

Not only myself but many others here have been discussing it with him for several months now without result. His posts are perfectly designed to make people see Democrats and their supporters as complete looneys.

Seriously, don't believe me, go back and look at his past postings, especially the threads he has started. They are full of him tossing insulting names like nazis, neocons, murderers and more.

You're right. I do have a lack of will to discuss it with him. After all, as i said earlier, each and every one of his posts is like a Republican created advertisement on why Democrats shouldn't be trusted to run out country. Since the only Democrat that I would vote for as President has been tossed out of his own party for not pandering enough to this type of hysteria i'm fine with the occasional laugh at his expense.

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And I've yet to see a survey that says the Iraqis wanted a democracy before Saddam was removed. Did anyone ask them?

I don't recall in the history of man that any enemy nations citizens have been asked whether they agreed to a removal of the regime in power, but there have been many calls by various Iraqi groups for us to do just that ever since Desert Storm.

What we do there now, having achieved our objective of removing him, is at least try to stablize the situation before leaving. Maybe we'll succeed and maybe we'll fail, time will tell, but we both know that if it were any other nation besides the US, with the possible exception of the British, Iraq would have either been left to its own devices or permanently annexed as a colony.

Happy Times · 10-03-06, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Danelov

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@Danelov: I´ve never seen accurate and confirmed figures of Soviet losses against Finns. All I find is that figure and the phrase "Estimates of Soviet losses vary greatly". From that 48,000 up to half a million.

From Axishistory.com;

Killed in action Died in hospital

Commanders 6.000 802

NCOs 9.611 1.436

Men 54.215 12.185

Rank not known 1.388 1.869

Total 71.214 16.292

And those figures are from the Winter War. Tho, I cant say are those figures true or false.

Yes, there are many different numbers about the losses.Mannerheim had also speak about 200.000, but that was very shortly after the war.

And the 48.000 figures you offered arent excepted by anyone but some Stalinists.

I would also like to know what foreign expeditions attacked Russia from Finland during the Russian civil war? However the Bolseviks sponsored and supported a rebellion in Finland against the legal goverment 1918 and after that failed,terrorism. Funny part was that you compared Finland (democracy) to Cuba (communist dictatorship).

You make the claim that the demands that USSR put out for Finland, prior to Winter War, were reasonable.:rotfl: When in reality they would have ment total control over Finlands foreign trade connections and undermined Finlands defence totally. You ever heard of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact?!? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov-Ribbentrop_Pact Seems not when you claim that the Soviets didnt have intention to invade Finland, muhahhaaa:rotfl:Finland had seen what had happened to Poland and the Baltic countries, we werent going to go that road. The Soviets werent even hiding their intentions after they attacked. They named us a new goverment at Terijoki, it was called the Finnish Democratic Republic! :rotfl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish...ratic_Republic And on a personal note im so tired of this mockery of history that you people spew that il shove that border of Peter The "Great" up your ass if you ever step on this soil again. Winter War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War , Continuation War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War

Happy Times · 10-03-06, 03:20 PM

Clip from a good and realistic film you can probably get from Amazon.

A nother one, features a common way to take out tanks during the war.

British news reel from 1939.

Deputy · 10-03-06, 03:30 PM

SubSerpent: Welllllll...I didn't realize you were the Arabic expert on what will and won't succeed in Iraq. So besides piss and moan about Dubya and subscribe to the "cut and run" suggestions of the Dems, what IS your solution in Iraq? Note also that Iraq had consistently violated UN resolutions prior to our going in to their country. And we DID have a legal right to go in since the UN stated there would be recriminations for ignoring the resolution. What did you think those recriminations were going to be...a spanking like Bill Klinton did? Some useless cruise missles that explode on pill factories?
We are NOT establishing our own form of government. We are letting the people THEY ELECTED (unlike Saddam) establish their own form of government. If they wanted to have a government identical to the one in Iran, they were free to do so. We simply removed a mass murderer (remember the gassing of the Kurds?) that was endangering the stability of the region. The ones that DON'T want the US in Iraq aren't Iraqis. They are Iranians. And Syrians. If a democratic form of government succeeds in Iraq, that would be a MAJOR thorn in the side of Iran and Syria. As noted by our politicos...Democracies DON'T declare war on each other.
Note also that the US is rebuilding everything that was destroyed during the war. We did NOT intentionally bomb schools and hospitals. It's the same thing as Israel...if the bad guys hide in those locations...they are fair game. NO innocent people were intentionally shot and bombed.
Just curious...are you a resident of the US? Again...no personal info available on you. If you are, let me say that nobody is holding you down as far as staying here. You are free to leave and move to some Socialist country more to your leanings.
Just like George Clooney did...oh wait....he said he would leave and stayed after all

Oh yeah...funny you should mention Milosovich. If I remember right we went over there to help out in that fracas too and still have peacekeepers there. Dang we are a nasty country. Spreading peace and supporting human rights every where we go. Shame on us!!

Dep

10-03-06, 03:40 PM

My solution can't be met now. US should have never invaded Iraq to begin with. All we can and should do is release Sadaam back to his country and leave the place never to return. Perhaps we should make an formal apology to Iraq in front of the world. It was never our business to get involved with them in the first place. Then Bush should be tried for war crimes against humanity by the United Nations that he so eagerly bypassed in order to attack Iraq.

Deputy · 10-03-06, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent

My solution can't be met now. US should have never invaded Iraq to begin with. All we can and should do is release Sadaam back to his country and leave the place never to return. Perhaps we should make an formal apology to Iraq in front of the world. It was never our business to get involved with them in the first place. Then Bush should be tried for war crimes against humanity by the United Nations that he so eagerly bypassed in order to attack Iraq.

HA! HAHA!!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. OH GEEZ!!!! I AM ROFLMAO!!!!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

You realize that this answer pretty much takes you out of any reasonable discussions on this matter?

Dep

10-03-06, 03:46 PM

That's what should happen. What's your idea? Continue to kill off the Iraqi people and squeeze them into acceptance of democracy?

Yeah, that would be really great!

Then what? Move on to Iran? and etc etc till all middle east is controlled by the US?

10-03-06, 04:08 PM

VipertheSniper · 10-03-06, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent

My solution can't be met now. US should have never invaded Iraq to begin with. All we can and should do is release Sadaam back to his country and leave the place never to return. Perhaps we should make an formal apology to Iraq in front of the world. It was never our business to get involved with them in the first place. Then Bush should be tried for war crimes against humanity by the United Nations that he so eagerly bypassed in order to attack Iraq.

Saddam back to his country? What has happened can't be undone, apart from that, last time I heard he was in Iraq, I mean isn't he tried in Iraq?
Formal apology to Iraq? As if that is going to change anything.
I agree that it was wrong invading Iraq, but the stuff you suggest doesn't make any sense, apart from that it was never your business and trying Bush for war crimes.

ASWnut101 · 10-03-06, 05:40 PM

seems subserpent is losing some friends......

10-03-06, 05:55 PM

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seems subserpent is losing some friends......

Blah, didn't need any anyways! Unlike you who needs are the support he can get! :p

You don't wear a bra by chance do you?:hmm:

August · 10-03-06, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Deputy

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent

My solution can't be met now. US should have never invaded Iraq to begin with. All we can and should do is release Sadaam back to his country and leave the place never to return. Perhaps we should make an formal apology to Iraq in front of the world. It was never our business to get involved with them in the first place. Then Bush should be tried for war crimes against humanity by the United Nations that he so eagerly bypassed in order to attack Iraq.

HA! HAHA!!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. OH GEEZ!!!! I AM ROFLMAO!!!!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

You realize that this answer pretty much takes you out of any reasonable discussions on this matter?

Dep

You realize he never said what his "solution" was? That's because, like the rest of the Democrats, he never had one.

ASWnut101 · 10-03-06, 06:24 PM

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You don't wear a bra by chance do you?:hmm:

man, and you said skywvr was perverted.....freakin some people out.....

10-03-06, 03:20 PM	#155
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Clip from a good and realistic film you can probably get from Amazon. A nother one, features a common way to take out tanks during the war. British news reel from 1939. __________________ Last edited by Happy Times; 10-03-06 at 07:28 PM.

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Deputy Watch Officer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 344 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	SubSerpent: Welllllll...I didn't realize you were the Arabic expert on what will and won't succeed in Iraq. So besides piss and moan about Dubya and subscribe to the "cut and run" suggestions of the Dems, what IS your solution in Iraq? Note also that Iraq had consistently violated UN resolutions prior to our going in to their country. And we DID have a legal right to go in since the UN stated there would be recriminations for ignoring the resolution. What did you think those recriminations were going to be...a spanking like Bill Klinton did? Some useless cruise missles that explode on pill factories? We are NOT establishing our own form of government. We are letting the people THEY ELECTED (unlike Saddam) establish their own form of government. If they wanted to have a government identical to the one in Iran, they were free to do so. We simply removed a mass murderer (remember the gassing of the Kurds?) that was endangering the stability of the region. The ones that DON'T want the US in Iraq aren't Iraqis. They are Iranians. And Syrians. If a democratic form of government succeeds in Iraq, that would be a MAJOR thorn in the side of Iran and Syria. As noted by our politicos...Democracies DON'T declare war on each other. Note also that the US is rebuilding everything that was destroyed during the war. We did NOT intentionally bomb schools and hospitals. It's the same thing as Israel...if the bad guys hide in those locations...they are fair game. NO innocent people were intentionally shot and bombed. Just curious...are you a resident of the US? Again...no personal info available on you. If you are, let me say that nobody is holding you down as far as staying here. You are free to leave and move to some Socialist country more to your leanings. Just like George Clooney did...oh wait....he said he would leave and stayed after all Oh yeah...funny you should mention Milosovich. If I remember right we went over there to help out in that fracas too and still have peacekeepers there. Dang we are a nasty country. Spreading peace and supporting human rights every where we go. Shame on us!! Dep Last edited by Deputy; 10-03-06 at 03:40 PM.

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ASWnut101 Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,021 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	seems subserpent is losing some friends...... __________________

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SubSerpent Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	My solution can't be met now. US should have never invaded Iraq to begin with. All we can and should do is release Sadaam back to his country and leave the place never to return. Perhaps we should make an formal apology to Iraq in front of the world. It was never our business to get involved with them in the first place. Then Bush should be tried for war crimes against humanity by the United Nations that he so eagerly bypassed in order to attack Iraq.

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SubSerpent Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	That's what should happen. What's your idea? Continue to kill off the Iraqi people and squeeze them into acceptance of democracy? Yeah, that would be really great! Then what? Move on to Iran? and etc etc till all middle east is controlled by the US?

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