Homeless For The Holidays

[ASWnut101]

Thats a VERY good song, especially when played on the movie "The Manchurian Canidate" but stop with anti bush stuff, please?

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

Thats a VERY good song, especially when played on the movie "The Manchurian Canidate" but stop with anti bush stuff, please?

Bush is currently at the helm of the government that has failed Sailor Steve. Salior Steve is a veteran of the US and a veteran of a war! He should not have to suffer any longer. I blame this situation all the way up to the Whitehouse and to the government who want more out its troops to ensure US safety and freedom but don't give so much as a wave and a "thank you" to the veterans who have helped to secure their freedoms and wealth from being touched by enemy hands.

Got to love the government - cheap stingy bastards!

This is the same government that try to say that I wasn't a veteran too and tried to take my MGIB away by stating that I wasn't qualified. How the hell was I not qualifiied? I served for 6 honorable years and have a RE-1 Honorable reentry code to come back in if I wanted and I paid my $100 a month for the first 12 months that I was in.

I repeat - cheap stingy bastards.

Yet when tax time comes around, they sure do know how to reach deep into my pocket!

[fredbass]

Stop Hijacking this thread.

Originally Posted by fredbass

Stop Hijacking this thread.

Yeah ASWnut101! Quit hijacking the thread. You didn't even express any sorrow for Sailor Steve's situation like I did. You just followed me in here to try to start crap because you have a problem with me and my view that the reason for Sailor Steve's dilema is partly due to the Bush administration not giving a darn about Sailor Steve or any other veteran in the US.

[Kapitan]

If only i was president this would stand:

All veterans who had served the country proud rest assured that the country they fought for and put thier lives on the line for will help them in thier hour of need, not only the veterans but their familys also.

I mean after all sailor steve did defend what he thought was right he defended each and every american citizen and he as do many others like him deserve the help they need to get back on thier feet no one else i dont think deserve the help of the government more.

The government of all nations owes a massive un repayable debt to its vetrens a debt which will never be paid. so the only way to easy the payment is to aid them whenever they need it.

Originally Posted by Kapitan

If only i was president this would stand:

All veterans who had served the country proud rest assured that the country they fought for and put thier lives on the line for will help them in thier hour of need, not only the veterans but their familys also.

I mean after all sailor steve did defend what he thought was right he defended each and every american citizen and he as do many others like him deserve the help they need to get back on thier feet no one else i dont think deserve the help of the government more.

The government of all nations owes a massive un repayable debt to its vetrens a debt which will never be paid. so the only way to easy the payment is to aid them whenever they need it.

I wish you were president here in the US then Kaptain. You may be one of the youngest on this forum, but you have got to be one of the most mature and stable minded people I have ever met! God bless your kind nature!

[Kapitan]

Oh and just one more thing, BUSH does not deserve to be presedent id like to see him strung up one day for what he has done to the world, i think we have all lost count as to how many innocent soldiers and civilians have been killed by his dumb decisions.

Afghanistan i can agree with but iraq i cannot, saddam hussien would be a better leader then bush and i also think bush should be the one on trial for genocide and not saddam.

[ASWnut101]

you know what, fine.

Il let you to your ramblings.
just saying, try to keep it away from people who dont want to hear it!


BYE.

[Kapitan]

The forum is open to everyone its about opinions facts and knowlege, i come here to learn new things and learn from other people its called development.

You will find you might be able to learn off a 60 year old better than your 24 year old teach simply because that 60 year old has had the experiance the other hasnt.

Sailor Steve, Ramius, Bill Nichols, Ping Jockey just to name a few all have served thier country and served it proud, they were the guys who were out there defending you when you were in diapers, these are the men who acctualy went out there knowing that it may be the last time they see familys again.

It doesnt matter what nation you serve it doesnt matter what religion you are it doesnt matter what you do, but if you serve an armed forces then you have my up most respect and i will bow down to you and praise you for it because its something to be proud of and its something that many people cant say they have done with thier lives.

These men and women deserve alot better then what they got already, they sacrificed thier lives thier familys thier lives just so you can have your tommorrow, it angers me when people take the pi$$ out of the veterans the people who dont acctualy realise that what they see infront of them is the few living examples of freedom, and if it wasnt for that handful of people marching with thier flags once a year then maybe none of us would be standing there to watch them.

Those men had more then guts they had pride and dignity and self respect, something you realy need to learn sorry but if your going to disresepct veterans who served thier countries and then to top it off failed by the country they served, then you dont have no respect of mine.

Originally Posted by Kapitan

The forum is open to everyone its about opinions facts and knowlege, i come here to learn new things and learn from other people its called development.

You will find you might be able to learn off a 60 year old better than your 24 year old teach simply because that 60 year old has had the experiance the other hasnt.

Sailor Steve, Ramius, Bill Nichols, Ping Jockey just to name a few all have served thier country and served it proud, they were the guys who were out there defending you when you were in diapers, these are the men who acctualy went out there knowing that it may be the last time they see familys again.

It doesnt matter what nation you serve it doesnt matter what religion you are it doesnt matter what you do, but if you serve an armed forces then you have my up most respect and i will bow down to you and praise you for it because its something to be proud of and its something that many people cant say they have done with thier lives.

These men and women deserve alot better then what they got already, they sacrificed thier lives thier familys thier lives just so you can have your tommorrow, it angers me when people take the pi$$ out of the veterans the people who dont acctualy realise that what they see infront of them is the few living examples of freedom, and if it wasnt for that handful of people marching with thier flags once a year then maybe none of us would be standing there to watch them.

Those men had more then guts they had pride and dignity and self respect, something you realy need to learn sorry but if your going to disresepct veterans who served thier countries and then to top it off failed by the country they served, then you dont have no respect of mine.

Again, well said Kaptain! Have you ever thought about moving to the States and running for Office? US law states you can't be the president, but you can be a state governor or senator! Maybe one day US law will be adjusted to allow someone from a foriegn nation be allowed to become president of the US.

Another thing is your age. According to US law you are too young to run for president. Heck, even I'm too young to run for president. What a crap law! Funny how it is that I served my country in the Navy with honors and have a boat load of ribbons and medals but I still can't run for the BIG seat. This goes the with my same feelings that a US military member should be able to smoke, drink, etc. considering he/she is able to die for their country! There are soooo many laws and rules here that are soooo prehistoric and unconstitutional.

[Sailor Steve]

Well, let's see: I myself don't blame Bush, for the simple reason that I don't see how my personal situation would be any different under any recent president. I also think that a lot of the people who hate Bush would still hate him no matter what he did in the last six years. Of course, being honest, I also believe that is true of the conservatives vs Clinton. Some people just have to blame everything on some scapegoat or another.

That doesn't mean I agree with Bush 100%, or even 50%, I just don't like being rabid about my feelings for or against any leader.

I also disagree with your choice of Kapitan for president. I'm sorry, but anyone who says he'd like to see his own president 'strung up' is not as mature as you'd like to think. Saddam did indeed intentionally kill thousands of his own people, whereas Bush may be mistaken, but I don't see him quite in that light.

Oh, and I also love anything by Creedence-I was there the first time around!

[Kapitan]

Thee part about stringing bush up and putting saddam in charge is just my anger at the bush administration both do not deserve to be president, if only we could have a decent leader some one with hitlers targets, some one with the ability to tell the truth for once, and some one who realy does believe that democracy is freedom and they should allow other nations to choose thier own pathes.

I do know people who have been killed in iraq two of them were killed by american forces, its not bush's fault but as he is president the buck does stop at him.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Well, let's see: I myself don't blame Bush, for the simple reason that I don't see how my personal situation would be any different under any recent president. I also think that a lot of the people who hate Bush would still hate him no matter what he did in the last six years. Of course, being honest, I also believe that is true of the conservatives vs Clinton. Some people just have to blame everything on some scapegoat or another.

That doesn't mean I agree with Bush 100%, or even 50%, I just don't like being rabid about my feelings for or against any leader.

I also disagree with your choice of Kapitan for president. I'm sorry, but anyone who says he'd like to see his own president 'strung up' is not as mature as you'd like to think. Saddam did indeed intentionally kill thousands of his own people, whereas Bush may be mistaken, but I don't see him quite in that light.

Oh, and I also love anything by Creedence-I was there the first time around!

Well, I've got to hand it to you Steve! You are a man of compassion and resolve if you don't feel that Bush hasn't got anything to do with your situation. Let me ask you this though, has he done anything to help YOU. Granted clinton and others haven't done much to help the veterans of former wars out either, but still Bush is currently manning the helm and you are currently not as well off as you should be.

I purpose that the US do something about it. I think the US should form a new bill and sign it into law that makes it mandatory that veterans of former conflicts should be payed a salary of $2000 a month for the rest of their lives regardless if they did 20 years or not. If they did 20 then let them have that $2000 plus their retirement on top of that. This would gurantee that no one that has contributed or sacrificed their life has to go without in this country. It's total BS that you are in the rut you are in.

Families of military veterans who died in wars or conflicts should be paid one lump sum of a million dollars per direct family member for their loss. This means direct brother, sister, mom, dad, step brother, step sisters step parents if they had been in your life for over 5 years or more.


This bill should be retroactive to aid those that are currently veterans and their families AND the $2000 a month should rise with inflation in prices.


ALSO,

Gas for veterans should be free at the pump considering so many vets have died and spilled their blood for it!

Anyone got a problem with that? Are you going to say that my proposal is too expensive?

My answer to that is Freedom ain't free. It's time the US people start paying money for the sacrifices made but those in uniform.

Of course the current government would say no to this since they would have less money to spend on weapons and filling their wallets up with hundred dollar bills, but I think it's about time the US people request this for the vets of America.

[Kapitan]

The best things in life are not free, But the best thing in life is being free.