SubMines - SLMM

Dr.Sid · 09-30-06, 04:23 AM

SLMMs are not wireguided. You can rearm just as they leave the tube.
In stock DW, torpedoes homed at SLMMs very hapilly. I used them as CMs a lot. I think in LWAMI it works too .. but I too tried to use SLMMs (and mines generaly) lately and they just did not explode. Maybe there really is some problem .. I'll try some custom scenarios tonight to be sure.

ASWnut101 · 09-30-06, 12:23 PM

oops, thinking about something else...

Dr.Sid · 10-01-06, 06:32 AM

Hm .. I use latest DW pathc, latest LWAMI.
With Kilo's mobile mines, when mine comes to target waypoint, it WANISH. I know that LWAMI fixed mine's sound when it stopes, maybe there is some bug in this. Can somebody confirm this ?

Molon Labe · 10-02-06, 08:43 AM

I just ran a test. 1.03, LW/Ami 2.03

Fired 6 mobile mines, 4 of them stopped normally, two disappeared. Not sure why. My best guess is that the doctrine tried to place them too close to the bottom, and that due to the contours of the bottom, they actually touched.

The first mine the target passed over did detonate.

rman214 · 10-02-06, 11:35 AM

There must be a bug somewhere in the program for slmm's. It seems they can give your position away and disappear when arriving at the aiming point.

Molon Labe · 10-02-06, 12:23 PM

A follow up

LW/Ami 3.02 readme

Quote:

SLMM and Mobile Mine—A fix that makes both stop making noise after they have cut out their propulsion has been applied, and are no longer useful as decoys in any sense, at least not against active torpedoes. Both mines will now actively try to find and hold their position, and will be reliably on target. This make them effective weapons within their constraints (300ft for SLMM and 450ft for Mobile mines, the range of their seekers, and the weapon will shutdown below 600ft, as these are shallow water weapons), which they were not in the stock game. Do not try to use them on a steep slope.

So, that torps aren't exploding on mines should be expected. This is a cheat available in the stock game that has been removed in the mod.

Be sure that you are using them within the depth limitations. Otherwise, they will not function properly.

In my example, I wasn't using them on a steep slope, but it gives a possible explanation for why two of my mines disappeared. There might be some tweaking that can still be done to help the reliability, but for the most part mines to work with the mod.

@MRam, I hope you were using the modded game. IIRC, in the stock game, mines never worked in the first place because they were programed to sink to the bottom. The game removes all objects (e.g., killed platforms) that sit on the bottom.

Dr.Sid · 10-03-06, 03:04 AM

Sow how do you understand 'correct depths' ? It should be deep enough or shallow enough ? I for sure did not fire them from 600ft. I was at PD. Do mines sink to the bottom ? That would give sense and my bottom was more then 600 ft and then it would be logical if they vanish. But I do not see anything about sinking to the bottom.

09-30-06, 12:23 PM	#2
ASWnut101 Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,021 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	oops, thinking about something else... __________________

10-02-06, 08:43 AM	#4
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	I just ran a test. 1.03, LW/Ami 2.03 Fired 6 mobile mines, 4 of them stopped normally, two disappeared. Not sure why. My best guess is that the doctrine tried to place them too close to the bottom, and that due to the contours of the bottom, they actually touched. The first mine the target passed over did detonate. __________________ Last edited by Molon Labe; 10-02-06 at 08:57 AM.

10-02-06, 11:35 AM	#5
rman214 Watch Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 22 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Slmm's There must be a bug somewhere in the program for slmm's. It seems they can give your position away and disappear when arriving at the aiming point.

09-30-06, 04:23 AM	#1
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	SLMMs are not wireguided. You can rearm just as they leave the tube. In stock DW, torpedoes homed at SLMMs very hapilly. I used them as CMs a lot. I think in LWAMI it works too .. but I too tried to use SLMMs (and mines generaly) lately and they just did not explode. Maybe there really is some problem .. I'll try some custom scenarios tonight to be sure.

10-01-06, 06:32 AM	#3
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Hm .. I use latest DW pathc, latest LWAMI. With Kilo's mobile mines, when mine comes to target waypoint, it WANISH. I know that LWAMI fixed mine's sound when it stopes, maybe there is some bug in this. Can somebody confirm this ?

10-03-06, 03:04 AM	#7
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Sow how do you understand 'correct depths' ? It should be deep enough or shallow enough ? I for sure did not fire them from 600ft. I was at PD. Do mines sink to the bottom ? That would give sense and my bottom was more then 600 ft and then it would be logical if they vanish. But I do not see anything about sinking to the bottom.