Having XXI in 1939

[kiwi_2005]

To the person that wrote the below, few days ago to show us how to have a XXI in 1939. One question. I do everything said below save then go into SH3 startup a new career choose 1st flottlia 1939 yet all i see is a IIA or VIIB no XXI. Go back to the game files i edit open up the Basic cfg file and notice it has been changed back to its original. I tried 3 times and saved it, trippled check that the changes were saved by checking that the changes are their which they are, close the file, load up SH3 start a new career and no XXI. Go back to the Basic cfg file and its back to the original??? Dont matter what changes i make to the file when i load the game it changes everything back to their originals?:hmm: It only happens to the Basic file not the other files that are mentioned to edit. Any ideas? Im running SH3 with Greywolves no other mods. TIA

To get Type XXI @ 1939 as first assigned boat.

First we need to modify the Basic.cfg
1.Copy the info below:

[SUBMARINE3]
NrMinOff=4
NrMaxOff=8
NrMinPO=14
NrMaxPO=70
NrMinSeamen=0
NrMaxSeamen=70
NbVersion=1
Version0=0; XXI
Name0=XXI
Month0=1
Year0=1939
DaysSpentInBase=0

2. Now goto your Basic.cfg file / open and search for [SUBMARINE3] to find and change the type XXI start year. Then paste all the info above over the original [SUBMARINE3] list.

3. Next with your Basic.cfg still open, Copy the info below:

;[SUBMARINE_AMMO11];XXI
[SUBMARINE_AMMO10]
Type=3
Version=0
ForeTubes=6
AftTubes=0
ForeResIntern=17
ForeResExtern=0
ForeResExtra=0
AftResIntern=0
AftResExtern=0
ShellSlots=10
NbYears=7
Renown=11

Year0=1939
ForeTube00=9
ForeTube01=9
ForeTube02=9
ForeTube03=9
ForeTube04=9
ForeTube05=9
ForeResIntern00=10
ForeResIntern01=10
ForeResIntern02=10
ForeResIntern03=10
ForeResIntern04=10
ForeResIntern05=10
ForeResIntern06=3
ForeResIntern07=3
ForeResIntern08=3
ForeResIntern09=3
ForeResIntern010=3
ForeResIntern011=3
ForeResIntern012=9
ForeResIntern013=9
ForeResIntern014=9
ForeResIntern015=9
ForeResIntern016=9
Z01_00=12 ; XXI/1
A01_00=9
A02_00=9
SuperCharger_00=1260
Snorkel_00=1262
Batteries_00=1269
AftBatteries_00=1269
Hydrophone_00=1272
Sonar_00=1274
Radar_00=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_00=1283
Decoy_Launcher_00=1288
SonarCoatings_00=1304
RadarCoatings_00=1305
Renown0=0

Year1=1940
ForeTube10=9
ForeTube11=9
ForeTube12=9
ForeTube13=9
ForeTube14=9
ForeTube15=9
ForeResIntern10=10
ForeResIntern11=10
ForeResIntern12=10
ForeResIntern13=10
ForeResIntern14=10
ForeResIntern15=10
ForeResIntern16=3
ForeResIntern17=3
ForeResIntern18=3
ForeResIntern19=3
ForeResIntern110=3
ForeResIntern111=3
ForeResIntern112=9
ForeResIntern113=9
ForeResIntern114=9
ForeResIntern115=9
ForeResIntern116=9
Z01_10=12 ; XXI/1
A01_10=9
A02_10=9
SuperCharger_10=1260
Snorkel_10=1262
Batteries_10=1269
AftBatteries_10=1269
Hydrophone_10=1272
Sonar_10=1274
Radar_10=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_10=1283
Decoy_Launcher_10=1288
SonarCoatings_10=1304
RadarCoatings_10=1305
Renown1=0

Year2=1941
ForeTube20=9
ForeTube21=9
ForeTube22=9
ForeTube23=9
ForeTube24=9
ForeTube25=9
ForeResIntern20=10
ForeResIntern21=10
ForeResIntern22=10
ForeResIntern23=10
ForeResIntern24=10
ForeResIntern25=10
ForeResIntern26=3
ForeResIntern27=3
ForeResIntern28=3
ForeResIntern29=3
ForeResIntern210=3
ForeResIntern211=3
ForeResIntern212=9
ForeResIntern213=9
ForeResIntern214=9
ForeResIntern215=9
ForeResIntern216=9
Z01_20=12 ; XXI/1
A01_20=9
A02_20=9
SuperCharger_20=1260
Snorkel_20=1262
Batteries_20=1269
AftBatteries_20=1269
Hydrophone_20=1272
Sonar_20=1274
Radar_20=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_20=1283
Decoy_Launcher_20=1288
SonarCoatings_20=1304
RadarCoatings_20=1305
Renown2=0

Year3=1942
ForeTube30=9
ForeTube31=9
ForeTube32=9
ForeTube33=9
ForeTube34=9
ForeTube35=9
ForeResIntern30=10
ForeResIntern31=10
ForeResIntern32=10
ForeResIntern33=10
ForeResIntern34=10
ForeResIntern35=10
ForeResIntern36=3
ForeResIntern37=3
ForeResIntern38=3
ForeResIntern39=3
ForeResIntern310=3
ForeResIntern311=3
ForeResIntern312=9
ForeResIntern313=9
ForeResIntern314=9
ForeResIntern315=9
ForeResIntern316=9
Z01_30=12 ; XXI/1
A01_30=9
A02_30=9
SuperCharger_30=1260
Snorkel_30=1262
Batteries_30=1269
AftBatteries_30=1269
Hydrophone_30=1272
Sonar_30=1274
Radar_30=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_30=1283
Decoy_Launcher_30=1288
SonarCoatings_30=1304
RadarCoatings_30=1305
Renown3=0

Year4=1943
ForeTube40=9
ForeTube41=9
ForeTube42=9
ForeTube43=9
ForeTube44=9
ForeTube45=9
ForeResIntern40=10
ForeResIntern41=10
ForeResIntern42=10
ForeResIntern43=10
ForeResIntern44=10
ForeResIntern45=10
ForeResIntern46=3
ForeResIntern47=3
ForeResIntern48=3
ForeResIntern49=3
ForeResIntern410=3
ForeResIntern411=3
ForeResIntern412=9
ForeResIntern413=9
ForeResIntern414=9
ForeResIntern415=9
ForeResIntern416=9
Z01_40=12 ; XXI/1
A01_40=9
A02_40=9
SuperCharger_40=1260
Snorkel_40=1262
Batteries_40=1269
AftBatteries_40=1269
Hydrophone_40=1272
Sonar_40=1274
Radar_40=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_40=1283
Decoy_Launcher_40=1288
SonarCoatings_40=1304
RadarCoatings_40=1305
Renown4=0

Year5=1944
ForeTube50=9
ForeTube51=9
ForeTube52=9
ForeTube53=9
ForeTube54=9
ForeTube55=9
ForeResIntern50=10
ForeResIntern51=10
ForeResIntern52=10
ForeResIntern53=10
ForeResIntern54=10
ForeResIntern55=10
ForeResIntern56=3
ForeResIntern57=3
ForeResIntern58=3
ForeResIntern59=3
ForeResIntern510=3
ForeResIntern511=3
ForeResIntern512=9
ForeResIntern513=9
ForeResIntern514=9
ForeResIntern515=9
ForeResIntern516=9
Z01_50=12 ; XXI/1
A01_50=9
A02_50=9
SuperCharger_50=1260
Snorkel_50=1262
Batteries_50=1269
AftBatteries_50=1269
Hydrophone_50=1272
Sonar_50=1274
Radar_50=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_50=1283
Decoy_Launcher_50=1288
SonarCoatings_50=1304
RadarCoatings_50=1305
Renown5=0

Year6=1945
ForeTube60=9
ForeTube61=9
ForeTube62=9
ForeTube63=9
ForeTube64=9
ForeTube65=9
ForeResIntern60=10
ForeResIntern61=10
ForeResIntern62=10
ForeResIntern63=10
ForeResIntern64=10
ForeResIntern65=10
ForeResIntern66=3
ForeResIntern67=3
ForeResIntern68=3
ForeResIntern69=3
ForeResIntern610=3
ForeResIntern611=3
ForeResIntern612=9
ForeResIntern613=9
ForeResIntern614=9
ForeResIntern615=9
ForeResIntern616=9
Z01_60=12 ; XXI/1
A01_60=9
A02_60=9
SuperCharger_60=1260
Snorkel_60=1262
Batteries_60=1269
AftBatteries_60=1269
Hydrophone_60=1272
Sonar_60=1274
Radar_60=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_60=1283
Decoy_Launcher_60=1288
SonarCoatings_60=1304
RadarCoatings_60=1305
Renown6=0

4. Now go BACK to your Basic.cfg file and search for [SUBMARINE_AMMO11];XXI to find the parameters related to the type XXI sub. Then paste all the info above over the original [SUBMARINE_AMMO10];XXI list.

5. Still in your Basic.cfg, search for and Edit the [CONING_TYPE12] ;XXI/1 section. Change Year=1943 to Year=1939.

6. Still in your Basic.cfg, search for and Edit the [AMMO_TYPE9];2cm FK C/38 Flakzwiling XXI section. Change Year=1943 to Year=1939.

SAVE

Now we need to edit the Flotillia.cfg.
1.Open the file.
2.Find the flotilia section you need to edit. For example we want add type XXI to the 1st flotillia which has the Flotilla0=902 id.

3.In the Flotilla0=902 section find the NbUboats0=2 string and change it to NbUboats0=3 string. This is the number of available submarines.

4. Now we need to specify a new third submarine. Find the following strings:
Uboat0_0=0
Uboat0_1=1

5. Copy/Paste the lines below over the above:
Uboat0_0=3
Uboat0_1=0
Uboat0_2=1

6. Repeat this steps for other flotillias if you need. For example for the 2nd Flotillia:

NbUboats1=3

Uboat1_0=3
Uboat1_1=2
Uboat1_2=1

7. Save. By doing it so, like above, the Type XXI becomes your default start boat, no need to "Buy" it.


Now to fix the sub files.

1. Goto the Type XXI Sub folder found in */Silent Hunter III/Data/Submarine/NS_Uboat21.

Copy the info below:

;equiment cfg file, high level of detail

[Equipment 1]
NodeName=A01
LinkName=20mm21_UFlak
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

[Equipment 2]
NodeName=A02
LinkName=20mm21_UFlak
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

2. Open the NSS_Uboat21.eqp fie, select all, paste. Save

3. Copy all the info below.

; sensor configuration file

;lookout on conning tower
[Sensor 1]
NodeName=O01
LinkName=Visual
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;atack periscope
[Sensor 2]
NodeName=O02
LinkName=Periscope
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Observation periscope
[Sensor 3]
NodeName=O03
LinkName=Periscope
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Hydrophone
[Sensor 4]
NodeName=H01
LinkName=Hydrophone
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Hydrophone2
[Sensor 5]
NodeName=H02
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Sonar
[Sensor 6]
NodeName=N01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Radar
[Sensor 7]
NodeName=R01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;RadioDF
[Sensor 8]
NodeName=D01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Radar Warning
[Sensor 9]
NodeName=C01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

[Sensor 10]
NodeName=R02
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

[Sensor 11]
NodeName=D02
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

4. Open the NSS_Uboat21.sns file. Select all, paste. Save.

5. Start game. You should now have the Type XXI as your Default Start Boat. Go sink lots of ships and have Fun.

[MothBalls]

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Originally Posted by MothBalls

The text you listed above will not work, the later years will blow up on you.

What a load of crap. This was written out by myself and it works, I have used this a hell of a lot of times.

@ kiwi_2005, your problem sounds so much like a Rollback issue common to SH3 Commander. I know you say you have no other mods, but it still needs to be asked, do you use SH3 Commander. If so ROLLBACK before doing the changes. If not then I'm perplexed, as any saved changes to the files are just that, saved. Try Save As instead of save and see if that makes any differance.

[MothBalls]

Originally Posted by Cdre Gibs

What a load of crap. This was written out by myself and it works, I have use this a hell of a lot of times.

Sorry, didn't mean to offend, really, was just trying to help.


I tried this before and there were issues. Try taking what you posted above and load a XXI in 44/45. If he does a whole career with it.....

Again, only had the best intentions and didn't mean to insult anything.

Sure seems like this forum has become very touchy the last few days. I'm outta here.

Good luck to all of you and have fun.

Well I have done 3 Careers with the above tweak and never had any issues. I have played online with the same tweak (all playes had this tweak) and no issues. In fact I have never had any issues with the above ever. So I dont know why for you it "Blows up".

And you didnt offend me in any way, I'm just your typical Aussie and well we tend to say things like that!

[kiwi_2005]

Yes i do have SH3 Commander 2.6 running, i forget at times to mention that as a mod as i see it as part of SH3, meaning you have to load commander up to play the game - i forget its really just a mod.

And of course the Roll back how can i be so stupid

Thanks Cdre Gibs

Edit: 1939 watch out!

I dont wont to say I told you so, but well I told you so !

Just glad you got it all to work matey. Well done, now go sink some ships and I want Screen Shots Mr, you here me!!

PS: I'm curious about 1 thing tho, and that is "How well do wooly Torpedo's work and dont they shrink in the wash!"

[Paajtor]

Can you do this whilst in the middle of a career?
No SH3-Commander, running IUB1.02 (yeah, I know...it's the previous version, but I'm waiting for the new GW-mod to be released, and then do a clean SH3-install and start all over).

I'm in 2nd patrol, from:
U-48, 2nd Flotilla|Left at: September 1, 1939, 11:17|From: Wilhelmshaven|Mission Orders: Patrol grid AM23
Date=19390901

I'd like to fool around with the XXI, for I've never had a chance to do so...don't care if it's not realistic, as I said I'm waiting for the new GW.

[Captain Smollett]

I did.
I just implemented Cmdr. Gibs little code and the boat came up as "buyable" so I swapped my used Type 7 for the BMW of U-boats.

By the way, just found out about the BMW symbol. It is a propeller with the blue sky behind it. Apparently they made fighter planes during the war. go figure.

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Cdre Gibs

PS: I'm curious about 1 thing tho, and that is "How well do wooly Torpedo's work and dont they shrink in the wash!"

:rotfl:Ha ahh, i should of expected a reply like that from an aussie neighbour when we kiwis round our sheep up we put them in the back of a loading pen not ride with them...

[Paajtor]

Originally Posted by Captain Smollett

I did.
I just implemented Cmdr. Gibs little code and the boat came up as "buyable" so I swapped my used Type 7 for the BMW of U-boats.

K, thx.

[Respenus]

Could someone change the *.cfg files for me.

I REALLY have a bad history with massing with configuration files and I REALLY don't want the whole game brake on me.

I thank you in advance!

[Biggles]

I THINK........that you may get the XXI on another way:

Get GW, the latest version ye know.......
Get the "kids mod" for it, you just search "Kids mod" on this forum, and you should find the thread.
Download from that link, I think the laddy who did the minimod made it possible to have any sub at any time.

Don't have GW,kids mod, or a working gaming comp. so I have'nt test it yet but....

[Respenus]

Originally Posted by Biggles

I THINK........that you may get the XXI on another way:

Get GW, the latest version ye know.......
Get the "kids mod" for it, you just search "Kids mod" on this forum, and you should find the thread.
Download from that link, I think the laddy who did the minimod made it possible to have any sub at any time.

Don't have GW,kids mod, or a working gaming comp. so I have'nt test it yet but....

THX, but I don't want the Kid's Mod! I want my XXI in 1939.

Looks like I'll just have to do it myself!

[vivieehk]

After i chnaged the modify, I found the XXI in the 7th flottlia, 1939, but after a mission. It said that war is over and cannot continue my game.

If i start in other years, after the first mission, the objective will change to grid 0, what can i do ? Is it a normal case? thx