How many Japanese Tanker classes for SHIV?

[AG124]

Japanese freighters especially were smaller than most freighters used in the Atlantic. Or at least, that's the impression that I have...

Originally Posted by iambecomelife

One large class of Japanese Tanker should be alright for SHIV, as long as it is balanced by a greater number of much smaller tankers.IIRC there are to be 70 combat units in all for the game (air and sea). Considering all the planes and warships that need to be included, I fear we're going to end up with a small, repetitive sampling of merchant ships. AOD's over a decade old and we're still stuck with "Big Merchant, Average Merchant, Little Merchant". In fact SH3 was a step backward from AOD in that there was no tonnage randomization for generic ships.

I have the sad feeling that you are going to be right about that. Although a good warship selection will be important too - SHIII failed there as well.

AOD had probably the worst warship selection of any subsim, now that I think about it. Only UK warships (except for US transfers), including only 1 fleet carrier and no CAs.

SHI was actually pretty good - all Japanese BBs and almost all CV's were included (omitted - Hosho, Hiryu, Chitose class, Kaiyo, Shinyo). Plus all CAs, and most CLs (except for Katori class, Yubari, and I think Oyodo and Tenryu classes?). Good collection of DD's as well.

SHII, for the most part, had a good selection. With the level of the rosters they included, they could have modeled more French and Italian vessels though. Also, the British BB selection was terrible - No KGV or Nelson classes. And although the Ark Royal was included, the carrier selection was nothing to get excited about.

When SHIII came out, I really hoped that they would get it right this time but they didn't. I am mostly satisfied with the BB selection, but once again, the carrier selection was limited to one. I was also less satisfied with the cruiser selection than I have ever been with any other subsim.

The one good thing about all of that though, is that the only pevious Pacific Subsim had the most complete warship collection. Not binding though...

[CCIP]

Yea, even SHIII suffered from the 'warship syndrome' - but what to be surprised about? Look at the modded ships that have mostly been released as of now, even. It seems there's simply more interest in modelling the big pretty ships than the ugly practical ships :hmm: You two (AG124 and iambecomelife) are among our few saving exceptions :p

What I might hope for is that perhaps SHIV will finally provide a more open kit for modders to implement new ships quickly.


Still, let's keep all possibilities open. It may well be that even with most effort going to warships, there will still be a fair variety of simple merchants.

[WilhelmSchulz.]

Id like to see some fleet tankers.

[JU_88]

I think its obviouse that people will vote for 5+ tankers, given the poll options....