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CCIP · 09-19-06, 09:14 PM

...and, I would argue, the crew did exactly what they should have done under the circumstances. If your country goes to war and you're a sailor, you don't sit around, you go and sink ships... Their leaders, on the other hand... Plus, there's little proof that more than a small number of them were Nazis. Some certainly were, including famed commanders liked Prien and Luth, but certainly not all too many. Quite a few went on to become very positive members of post-war German society (e.g. Topp being a high-ranking NATO commander; Hardegen being a businessman and veteran city council member of his hometown)... Not the least, the fact that Doenitz, for all the efforts that were made, was not convicted for war crimes at Nuremberg, as there wasn't proof of such on behalf of his U-boats (he was, however, convicted for building an aggression-oriented U-boat fleet in peacetime, a stupid charge IMO).

...but anyway, it's not a political discussion. Although it's one of my pet peeves when people snub a country in a game because of some principle. A game's a game, don't confuse it for reality!

It's good to have a bit of everything

09-20-06, 02:58 AM

Not ALL u-boot submariners were bad, althoug they did their duty, there was this skipper who managed to sink many ships without any human life lost...

09-19-06, 09:14 PM	#1
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	...and, I would argue, the crew did exactly what they should have done under the circumstances. If your country goes to war and you're a sailor, you don't sit around, you go and sink ships... Their leaders, on the other hand... Plus, there's little proof that more than a small number of them were Nazis. Some certainly were, including famed commanders liked Prien and Luth, but certainly not all too many. Quite a few went on to become very positive members of post-war German society (e.g. Topp being a high-ranking NATO commander; Hardegen being a businessman and veteran city council member of his hometown)... Not the least, the fact that Doenitz, for all the efforts that were made, was not convicted for war crimes at Nuremberg, as there wasn't proof of such on behalf of his U-boats (he was, however, convicted for building an aggression-oriented U-boat fleet in peacetime, a stupid charge IMO). ...but anyway, it's not a political discussion. Although it's one of my pet peeves when people snub a country in a game because of some principle. A game's a game, don't confuse it for reality! It's good to have a bit of everything __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart) Last edited by CCIP; 09-20-06 at 03:08 AM.

09-20-06, 02:58 AM	#2
GakunGak Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Not ALL u-boot submariners were bad, althoug they did their duty, there was this skipper who managed to sink many ships without any human life lost...