1984 is in England

[CB..]

any public servant, govermental representative or member of parliment/house of lord's should be taken out and flogged every time they have a "vision".. even the idea of a government being guided by "Vision statements" is straight out of 1984

information is power....what's the bet that the department which will emerge to deal with this massive centralisation of information will be called the "ministry for privacy"?
to match the "ministry for deciding who lives and who dies" which is of course called...... N.I.C.E.

[Immacolata]

This could have been done so much smoother. Try visit Denmark. We've had such a system for beards now. The thing is, no civil servant can gain complete access to the whole picture, baring police investigators with the proper value. There is a strict law of registration that defines what you can register on each citizen, as well as how much you can share registered information between entities.

[STEED]

I except the dailymail glossed it up a bit but when you stop and think what opposition is there to this government from other political party's the answer is none. All the opposition comes from the press! at this rate they may as well form a new party as the others don't seem to do anything, as for this database I said ten years ago human life with be worth nothing and information will be worth everything. I have been proved right and I don't like it one bit we are going in the wrong direction, what will the next ten years have installed for us?

[Bellman]

.....But in some areas we are still back in the 18th century. Try establishing whch 'societies' any professional acting,
or about to act for you, is a member of ! The Human Rights legislation is cited to defend what after all we are assured
could be no more sinister than the membership of a golf club !

Another loss of liberty is the over scrutiny of town centres by security cameras. Typicaly your innocent shopping spree
will be recorded on several cameras running into two figures from shops, street, shopping centre and car park.

'Big Brother' arrived a long time ago ! Our passivity means he is here to stay.

[XabbaRus]

I agree with jumpy. local council workers worry me. Personally I don't have time for them. I think many of them are lazy bums who are in jobs for life. Honestly ever watched a bunch of council construction guys put up a fence or mend a hole in the road. They string out for a week when it can be done in 3 days.

Might be an overstatement saying all council workers are like that but having a look at teh adverts for jobs in my local council it seems that they have to invent posts with weird names when the job is something that could be done by an existing employee.


What Immacolata said is teh better idea and I thought that was how it was at the current time if not as advanced as the Daily Scare(Mail) has written. I also thought that how it is in Denmark is how it is going to be here, I'm sure I read that and the mail is missing it out. I do agree with STEED that we have a government hooked on more legislation as a solution to everything and obsessed with know what we do with our time.

[STEED]

What I find some what disturbing is the number of people who are now voting BNP, for the benefit of you guys outside England the BNP stands for British National Party they are a fringe very right wing party that blames all the country's problems on immigrates they hold some council seats in areas like Oldham. I know that are main political opposition party's are a joke but why are people voting BNP they have no answers what so ever, it's a sad day that the only opposition comes from the national press in this country.

This government is a control freak forcing it's unwanted 1984 Big Brother and Political Correctness on us and they have done nothing for this country, when Labour came to power in 1997 our economy was £50 billion in the black now it's £80 billion in the red. As for the information they are collecting on us your ID will be up for grabs and abused.

From the government to the councils all I see is money being wasted, my own council resurfaced a large section of road and it went right over budget so what do they do? They hold enquiry which costed millions just to come to the answer yes the road surfacing went over budget.

[XabbaRus]

The worst case scenario I see is that Labour intorduces all these laws and regs making it easier to snoop or know what people are up to then some one like the BNP get in and they have all these powers that they can use to turn is into a totalitarian state.

Can't seeing it happen but who knows.

Originally Posted by STEED

I except the dailymail glossed it up ?

Actually they have not glossed it up, check this out



http://www.conservatives.com/pdf/rev...inspectors.pdf

http://www.conservatives.com/pdf/revaluation-nov05.pdf

http://www.conservatives.com/tile.do...&obj_id=126282

Originally Posted by STEED

What I find some what disturbing is the number of people who are now voting BNP, for the benefit of you guys outside England the BNP stands for British National Party they are a fringe very right wing party that blames all the country's problems on immigrates .

I take a view (as X military) if the IRA, who murdered over 3000 people, is allowed to sit in the House of Commons. Then every other legal political party can to. Regardless of their views. Any other statement denouncing this view is no more than
Hypocritical.
If the majority vote for them who are we to say who is right or wrong. If we don’t like them don’t vote them.

The reason why they are increasing their votes (1,000,000 last election)

Muslims keep plotting mass murder from our country and other Muslims protest on the streets of London saying "were going to cut off your heads infidels"? and get away with it.

We have a government that concocted a lie to go to war.
(Just like Adolf Hitler did over Poland)

We have a government that is persecuting Muslims as of last week
(Just like Adolf Hitler did with the Jews)

We have a government that is now going to send spies into our homes
(just like Adolf Hitler did)

We have a government that allows postal vote fraud on a mass scale and in doing so riggs the elections.
(Just like Adolf Hitler did).

We have a government that uses Political injustices to send to prison the BNP leader for saying Islam is evil !
(Just like Adolf Hitler made excuses to send to prison, his political enemies). Yet the pope said it, as did Salmon Rushdie, who gets Police protection.

Regardless of of our views this act alone is outrages. I served the military to protect and serve. Not to allow persecution of others in my own country, just because we hate them.
I don't like the evil Islamic faith, but i have to put up with it..

And on top of all that, Labour are allowing people to raid your houses to snoop on you.
So really, who actually are the real Nazis here in the UK?

People are moving to the BNP because not of their immigration policies, but i believe because the majority are persecuted daily and they have had enough.

I also find reading their web pages in research for the truth, educates me more than having a left wing paper that lie and concoct pictures of British Soldiers torturing Iraqis, as the mirror did. Or listen to a government who lies out of its teeth and is under investigation by the Police for serious crimes as we speak.



Would i vote for them. I would on the grounds, i don't want Islam playing any part in British Politics. This would be the only reason and they are the only ones saying that....So what choice do i have ?




http://www.bnp.org.uk/

[XabbaRus]

Yea you do that. Very clever, you think labour are bad. BNP ever get in and it will be 1933 all over again. They aren't just anti-immigration against muslims or coloured people, though that might be the impression they give, they are anti anyone who isn't British. No thankyou, what would they make of my wife she's Russian, probably assume she is communist and then what?

I don't like how things are in this country but seeing the stuff posted here, everyone is thinking that Britain is a mess and crap.

Geez I'm surprised you can get up in the morning...

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Geez I'm surprised you can get up in the morning...

That will end when the OSLW (Over-Sleep Late for Work) penalties kick in next year.

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Yea you do that. Very clever, you think labour are bad. BNP ever get in and it will be 1933 all over again. They aren't just anti-immigration against muslims or coloured people, though that might be the impression they give, they are anti anyone who isn't British. No thankyou, what would they make of my wife she's Russian, probably assume she is communist and then what?

I don't like how things are in this country but seeing the stuff posted here, everyone is thinking that Britain is a mess and crap.

Geez I'm surprised you can get up in the morning...

I think it is case of "why did 12 BNP MEMBERS get voted into office in one council in the heart lands of Labour?

Ask the Tens of 1,000s in one ward, why they got up in the morning and voted for them.

I posted that crap up here, because it is up to other people to judge what is the truth and to see through all our prejudices and hate and lies.

As i said, The IRA murdered 3000 people, if it is accetable to have those English Racist in Politics.
Then i think you need to accept democracy for what it is.
Your power is not voting them in.

[XabbaRus]

Thank god I live in Scotland.....

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Thank god I live in Scotland.....

You say that, as if Scotland is a pefect place .

Education for you: Since the Scots got their own power.

http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=960242004

http://www.drugmisuse.isdscotland.or...tember2002.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/scotland/1105016.stm


tut tut tut.... oh Dear. Can't manage your selfs. No wonder we English ruled you for centuries. :rotfl: