88/105 used as AA-gun ?

Grrbob25 · 09-10-06, 01:53 PM

There was a case of a Type IX using the 105mm, destroying a russian aircraft!!

however this was probably just a lucky shot, even so I want their artillery crew on my u-boat!

moselgott · 09-10-06, 04:28 PM

I ´ve tried for several times now. I think you cannot shoot down a plane because the maximum ankle is too small and the gun cannot shoot high enough

Steeltrap · 09-10-06, 08:07 PM

Peter Cremer in "U333 - Story of a U-Boat Ace" clearly recounts using the 88mm against aircraft. He was a trained gunnery officer (initially served in a destroyer) and said it wasn't difficult for him to give the correct commands. So it could be done.

He also points out, of course, that a U-Boat would only 'fight' aircraft if caught with too little time to crash dive to safety.

I think it's best from a simulation perspective if staying on the surface around aircraft is usually a losing, or at least very risky, proposition. I've seen posts by people saying they've shot down 10+ aircraft on a patrol which is, frankly, ridiculous. Cremer made the point that bringing down an aircraft was very difficult, and U-Boats did all they could to avoid ever being found on the surface by them (rather difficult later in the war!).

Pablo · 09-10-06, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Peter Cremer in "U333 - Story of a U-Boat Ace" clearly recounts using the 88mm against aircraft. He was a trained gunnery officer (initially served in a destroyer) and said it wasn't difficult for him to give the correct commands. So it could be done.

I suppose if a slow aircraft flew just above the water directly at the submarine's deck gun (no deflection angle) that a lucky deck gunner with plenty of warning just might pull it off.

But I would think that a "one-in-a-million" shot.

Pablo

Patboot · 09-10-06, 09:10 PM

Anthrax has it: The FlaK 36 (the dreaded "88") is completely different from the C/35 naval gun. The only similiarity is the bore size.

09-10-06, 11:03 PM

But to answer the original question, yes you can shoot down Aircraft with you main gun. Its pure ass and a **** load of good luck but its doable. Best targets are the bombers and you aim well above them as they either approch on their bombing run or departing on their way back to base. Either way they fly steady so thats your best time. Ohh and when they are on the Bombing Run and you miss....TURN!!!!!

Pants · 09-11-06, 06:08 AM

I used to shoot planes down with star shells :p
It's easy when you get the hang of it

09-10-06, 01:53 PM	#1
Grrbob25 Mate Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 52 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There was a case of a Type IX using the 105mm, destroying a russian aircraft!! however this was probably just a lucky shot, even so I want their artillery crew on my u-boat! __________________ LOS LOS LOS! BOP BOP SHU BOP

09-10-06, 04:28 PM	#2
moselgott Watch Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 23 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I ´ve tried for several times now. I think you cannot shoot down a plane because the maximum ankle is too small and the gun cannot shoot high enough __________________ "War does not determine who´s right, only who´s left" - Bertrand Russel

09-11-06, 06:08 AM	#7
Pants Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Somewhere in the Atlantic Posts: 849 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I used to shoot planes down with star shells :p It's easy when you get the hang of it __________________ Ex GWX Dev Team member and proud GWX user

09-10-06, 08:07 PM	#3
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Peter Cremer in "U333 - Story of a U-Boat Ace" clearly recounts using the 88mm against aircraft. He was a trained gunnery officer (initially served in a destroyer) and said it wasn't difficult for him to give the correct commands. So it could be done. He also points out, of course, that a U-Boat would only 'fight' aircraft if caught with too little time to crash dive to safety. I think it's best from a simulation perspective if staying on the surface around aircraft is usually a losing, or at least very risky, proposition. I've seen posts by people saying they've shot down 10+ aircraft on a patrol which is, frankly, ridiculous. Cremer made the point that bringing down an aircraft was very difficult, and U-Boats did all they could to avoid ever being found on the surface by them (rather difficult later in the war!).

09-10-06, 09:10 PM	#5
Patboot Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 212 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Anthrax has it: The FlaK 36 (the dreaded "88") is completely different from the C/35 naval gun. The only similiarity is the bore size.

09-10-06, 11:03 PM	#6
Cdre Gibs Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	But to answer the original question, yes you can shoot down Aircraft with you main gun. Its pure ass and a **** load of good luck but its doable. Best targets are the bombers and you aim well above them as they either approch on their bombing run or departing on their way back to base. Either way they fly steady so thats your best time. Ohh and when they are on the Bombing Run and you miss....TURN!!!!!