Blame the Victim - Page 3

Onkel Neal · 08-18-06, 09:34 PM

Well, the important part was you weren't killed or mangled.

scandium · 08-19-06, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Well, the important part was you weren't killed or mangled.

This is going to sound a little nuts, but afterward, even an agnostic like me has had to wonder if I wasn't being "nudged" toward something, or away from something. I have, for a while now (long before the accident), been gloomy, pessimistic, and feeling stuck in a bit of an unhealthy rut - routine, whichever. Maybe that was my wakeup call. Or maybe just wrong place, wrong time.

But things like this change you I think, even if only psychologically - my choice is if it'll be for the better or for the worse.

STEED · 08-19-06, 05:39 AM

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Scandium, if you was hit here in the U.K. the driver would had pressed charges of you damaging his car and won the court case.

I think that's a bit overboard.

It's true I have read two case's (may be three) over the years where this has happen. I think in those case's the result's were fines and the cost of repair bills for the driver.

Gorduz · 08-19-06, 05:53 AM

In Norway, If you hit a pedestrian, nomatter how negligent he/she has been. You are automaticly stripped of your drivers licence. The pedestrian is never legaly responsible for anything, at least not the damage to your car. If you kil someone you can even be convicted for murder! But everyone in Norway that drives no this, so you have to be carefull..

HunterICX · 08-19-06, 06:09 AM

I sometimes hate the traffic
especialy those ''Rich sigarsucking BMW/Mercedez or SUV drivers''
Arrogant and think they are the King on the road and that we have to respect them

I was on my Bike behind an Car, the space between the car before me and myself was about 2 Meters going 50 - 60 Km/h

Now...Some arrogant bastard in his BMW passed me and Pushed me off the road going into Sand and small stones....I could hold my bike without falling off it......I really mind exploded....I went back on the road...and I saw the BMW before me I putt my Right foot out and Kicked his mirror of his (BLEEP) car.

Her started to Horn at me but I didnt care what he did I just continued and never saw him again...

Takeda Shingen · 08-19-06, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by scandium

This is going to sound a little nuts, but afterward, even an agnostic like me has had to wonder if I wasn't being "nudged" toward something, or away from something. I have, for a while now (long before the accident), been gloomy, pessimistic, and feeling stuck in a bit of an unhealthy rut - routine, whichever. Maybe that was my wakeup call. Or maybe just wrong place, wrong time.

But things like this change you I think, even if only psychologically - my choice is if it'll be for the better or for the worse.

The fates work strangely. You may be right about change.

Sharkstooth · 08-19-06, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I have never struck a pedestrian, nor have I ever been struck, but I would like to think that I would get out of the vehicle and check on the victim. I am not clear on the law according to this matter, as it varies from locality to locality. None-the-less, I am glad to hear that you are still among the living. Is there anything in the way of permanent damage?

In Chicago, if you hit someone and get out of the car, or even stop to check on them, you are liable to get mobbed by an angry crowd. Best thing to do here is drive to police station---isn't that sad?

I am also glad you are ok Scandium.

08-19-06, 10:56 AM

Shoe-on-the-other-foot department:

Just yesterday I watch a guy cross a busy street in a crosswalk...against the light. When the oncoming cars honked at him, he stopped in front of them and started cursing them. A cop could have given him a ticket or even arrested the jerk, but all the drivers could do was sit there and wait.

08-19-06, 01:17 PM

I think it should be forbidden in any country for a person in an automobile to hit someone and it be the pedestrians fault in any way, shape, or form. Unless perhaps the pedestrian was trying to commit suicide and jumped out in front of the car on purpose. It is a shame that the world protects the guilty so much and punishes the innocent. What ever happened to a world where a person could walk where the hell they wanted to freely?

My only explaination for what happened in your case and not seeing the SUV that hit you is that the female operator of the car must have been hauling ass.

It's a shame that she was not taking every effort to ensure pedestrain safety nor her own. That is reckless driving in the fullest form and she should lose her ability to drive.

Now, imagine had you been the hitter instead of the hitty... You being a male and her being a female. How would the community around you have viewed that? Most likely you would be in jail right now, you would have been sued out of all your money and assets and you would most likely have lost your license to drive for quite some time. Males are ALWAYS looked at as guilty on the road for some reason. In the USA males under 25 pay nearly double the payments on car insurance compared to women in the same age group. Thought this was the USA, so what's up with this sexist BS price gouging that insurance companies are allowed to commit? They claim that it's becasue males wreck more than females in that age group by using statisics. Well, if that's the way it is then why can't an employer refuse to give a job to a black man knowing full well that the black man is most likely going to rob from him - given the statistics and all - that a black man usually commits a crime compared to a white man by nearly 90%.

Fish · 08-19-06, 01:17 PM

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I once read something about bright street lights making it harder for drivers to see objects in the darkness adjacient to the pool. Something about the eyes having difficulty in making the transition from light to dark quickly enough.

I dunno the situation but could this have happened?

What about calling here friend with her mobile phone, putting a new CD in her CD-player or searching for her cigarettes.
You won't believe what people do while driving 1500 kilo's of steel through a neighbourhood.

Yahoshua · 08-19-06, 10:29 PM

I have seen some of the craziest things going on in cars when I used to live in San Diego.

People would: Change clothes, read a newspaper that is completely unfolded and blocking even their view of the dashboard, looking in the mirror and putting on lipstick (both sexes eww..), drying their hair, men who were shaving (with a razor and shaving cream), reading a book, and one time even having a little nooky in the car.

And all this while in bumper-to-bumper traffic at apx. 50 mph.

They're just asking for a world of hurt.

August · 08-20-06, 01:33 AM

It wasn't quite 50mph but i once saw a guy simultaniously talk on a cell phone, peel an orange and read a newspaper while driving in bumper to bumper traffic on Rt 128.

Yahoshua · 08-20-06, 01:42 AM

One of the things I loved doing when I was merely a passenger in my parents car was to mimic and make fun of people doing this crazy stuff in cars. T'was great fun, the faces were unforgettable in some situations. :rotfl:

em2nought · 08-20-06, 02:19 AM

After midnight? The skeptic in me thinks she was drinking, had her lights off after leaving wherever she was drinking at, and is "hooked" up. Daddy is a local cop or something.

Konovalov · 08-22-06, 06:34 AM

Scandium,

I'm glad to hear that you are still in one piece. Take care.

08-18-06, 09:34 PM	#31
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Well, the important part was you weren't killed or mangled. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

08-19-06, 05:53 AM	#34
Gorduz Engineer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 210 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	In Norway, If you hit a pedestrian, nomatter how negligent he/she has been. You are automaticly stripped of your drivers licence. The pedestrian is never legaly responsible for anything, at least not the damage to your car. If you kil someone you can even be convicted for murder! But everyone in Norway that drives no this, so you have to be carefull.. __________________ 21. MTB skv. Attacks without warning.

08-19-06, 06:09 AM	#35
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I sometimes hate the traffic especialy those ''Rich sigarsucking BMW/Mercedez or SUV drivers'' Arrogant and think they are the King on the road and that we have to respect them I was on my Bike behind an Car, the space between the car before me and myself was about 2 Meters going 50 - 60 Km/h Now...Some arrogant bastard in his BMW passed me and Pushed me off the road going into Sand and small stones....I could hold my bike without falling off it......I really mind exploded....I went back on the road...and I saw the BMW before me I putt my Right foot out and Kicked his mirror of his (BLEEP) car. Her started to Horn at me but I didnt care what he did I just continued and never saw him again... __________________

08-19-06, 01:17 PM	#39
SubSerpent Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I think it should be forbidden in any country for a person in an automobile to hit someone and it be the pedestrians fault in any way, shape, or form. Unless perhaps the pedestrian was trying to commit suicide and jumped out in front of the car on purpose. It is a shame that the world protects the guilty so much and punishes the innocent. What ever happened to a world where a person could walk where the hell they wanted to freely? My only explaination for what happened in your case and not seeing the SUV that hit you is that the female operator of the car must have been hauling ass. It's a shame that she was not taking every effort to ensure pedestrain safety nor her own. That is reckless driving in the fullest form and she should lose her ability to drive. Now, imagine had you been the hitter instead of the hitty... You being a male and her being a female. How would the community around you have viewed that? Most likely you would be in jail right now, you would have been sued out of all your money and assets and you would most likely have lost your license to drive for quite some time. Males are ALWAYS looked at as guilty on the road for some reason. In the USA males under 25 pay nearly double the payments on car insurance compared to women in the same age group. Thought this was the USA, so what's up with this sexist BS price gouging that insurance companies are allowed to commit? They claim that it's becasue males wreck more than females in that age group by using statisics. Well, if that's the way it is then why can't an employer refuse to give a job to a black man knowing full well that the black man is most likely going to rob from him - given the statistics and all - that a black man usually commits a crime compared to a white man by nearly 90%. Last edited by SubSerpent; 08-19-06 at 01:47 PM.

08-19-06, 10:29 PM	#41
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have seen some of the craziest things going on in cars when I used to live in San Diego. People would: Change clothes, read a newspaper that is completely unfolded and blocking even their view of the dashboard, looking in the mirror and putting on lipstick (both sexes eww..), drying their hair, men who were shaving (with a razor and shaving cream), reading a book, and one time even having a little nooky in the car. And all this while in bumper-to-bumper traffic at apx. 50 mph. They're just asking for a world of hurt. __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

08-19-06, 10:56 AM	#38
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Shoe-on-the-other-foot department: Just yesterday I watch a guy cross a busy street in a crosswalk...against the light. When the oncoming cars honked at him, he stopped in front of them and started cursing them. A cop could have given him a ticket or even arrested the jerk, but all the drivers could do was sit there and wait.

08-20-06, 01:33 AM	#42
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,215 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It wasn't quite 50mph but i once saw a guy simultaniously talk on a cell phone, peel an orange and read a newspaper while driving in bumper to bumper traffic on Rt 128. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

08-20-06, 01:42 AM	#43
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	One of the things I loved doing when I was merely a passenger in my parents car was to mimic and make fun of people doing this crazy stuff in cars. T'was great fun, the faces were unforgettable in some situations. :rotfl: __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

08-20-06, 02:19 AM	#44
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	After midnight? The skeptic in me thinks she was drinking, had her lights off after leaving wherever she was drinking at, and is "hooked" up. Daddy is a local cop or something. __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!

08-22-06, 06:34 AM	#45
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Scandium, I'm glad to hear that you are still in one piece. Take care. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)