US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Skybird]

^ Or a bit simplier said:


[Die Zeit] A US federal court has blocked the majority of the import tariffs imposed by President Donald Trump from coming into force. The tariffs in question would be “revoked and their application permanently prohibited”, according to the decision by the court in New York, which is responsible for international trade. It relates in particular to the reciprocal tariffs imposed by Trump's government at the beginning of April on a so-called Liberation Day.

The court stated that the US Constitution only gives Congress the power to regulate trade with other countries. Trump's emergency powers to protect the US economy could not override this. The US president had exceeded his powers when he imposed blanket tariffs on imports from countries that export more to the United States than they import.

"The Court does not pass judgment on the wisdom or probable efficacy of the President's use of tariffs as leverage. This use is impermissible not because it is unwise or ineffective, but because federal law does not authorize it," the three federal judges reasoned in their decision.

As the New York Times reports, it is still unclear when and how the tariffs will be discontinued. The court gave the government up to ten days to complete the bureaucratic process to suspend them. Share prices in Asia and US futures rose, while on the currency markets the US dollar gained against the Swiss franc and the Japanese yen - both of which are traditionally bought in times of crisis.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

^ Or a bit simplier said:


[Die Zeit] A US federal court has blocked the majority of the import tariffs imposed by President Donald Trump from coming into force. The tariffs in question would be “revoked and their application permanently prohibited”, according to the decision by the court in New York, which is responsible for international trade. It relates in particular to the reciprocal tariffs imposed by Trump's government at the beginning of April on a so-called Liberation Day.

The court stated that the US Constitution only gives Congress the power to regulate trade with other countries. Trump's emergency powers to protect the US economy could not override this. The US president had exceeded his powers when he imposed blanket tariffs on imports from countries that export more to the United States than they import.

"The Court does not pass judgment on the wisdom or probable efficacy of the President's use of tariffs as leverage. This use is impermissible not because it is unwise or ineffective, but because federal law does not authorize it," the three federal judges reasoned in their decision.

As the New York Times reports, it is still unclear when and how the tariffs will be discontinued. The court gave the government up to ten days to complete the bureaucratic process to suspend them. Share prices in Asia and US futures rose, while on the currency markets the US dollar gained against the Swiss franc and the Japanese yen - both of which are traditionally bought in times of crisis.

This whole trade ... is basic "Make TACO Great Again"

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

loose verse

Saying a poem is "iambic but lacks pentameter" means it's using the rhythmic building blocks of traditional English verse (iambs) without the full structure (five per line), and that very much fits with what loose verse often does: borrow tradition while breaking its rules.

Epstein called him his closest Friend.
Alex calls him Daddy.
Putin calls him Emotional.
Wall Street calls him TACO.
Stormy calls him Tiny.
The courts call him Convicted.
Qatar calls him Our bribe.
Melania doesn't call him at all, to busy on the phone with Justin.

[Otto Harkaman]

They Call Him Trump

They call him names—
but names don’t build towers.

Epstein spun tales—
but Trump walked away
before the web was woven.

Alex calls him Daddy—
because some need a strong hand
when the world feels weak.

Putin calls him emotional—
because he’s not made of ice,
but fire, and fury,
and the will to stand.

Wall Street calls him TACO—
mocking what they can’t control,
even as they feast
on markets he once moved.

Stormy calls him Tiny—
but when storms rage,
he never ducks for cover.

The courts call him Convicted—
but history often misjudges
its revolutionaries.

Qatar calls him their bribe—
but oil and gold
always chase the flame.

And Melania?
She’s silent, yes—
but maybe silence
is just another kind of loyalty
the world doesn’t understand.

[Skybird]

There once was a poet so bold,
Whose rhymes were both clumsy and cold.
He mixed up his words,
Which caused quite a stir,
His end was Guantanamo, so I've been told!

[Otto Harkaman]

Oh ho! You’ve drawn blade with your tongue,
But your wit’s like a bell never rung.
Your meter’s all muddled,
Your punchline befuddled—
Did your muse trip and fall off the rung?

You speak of Guantanamo’s gate?
How dreadfully second-rate!
While you pen your jests
In government vests,
I sip wine and flirt with my fate.

So come now, dear heckler, be brave—
Try rhyme that can charm or enslave.
For verse isn’t war,
But it can start a roar—
And I never rhyme from a grave.

[mapuc]

We should rename this thread to:

US Poetic thread(Politics may be discussed)

Markus

[Dargo]

The Trump administration has lost a shocking 96% of rulings in federal district courts so far this month, according to a recent analysis by Adam Bonica, a professor of political science at Stanford. Bonica’s data indicates that judges across the ideological spectrum are ruling against Trump at similar rates. He’s lost in 72% of rulings issued by Republican-appointed judges and 80% of rulings by Democratic-appointed judges.

The US court has suspended the blockade imposed on President Trump's import tariffs. A federal judge ruled yesterday that Trump had been out of line and blocked the levies. That ruling has now been temporarily reversed while the appeal is pending. The case had been brought by five companies that import goods from countries on which Trump imposed duties. The Court of Appeal ordered both sides to respond by 5 and 9 June.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

Oh ho! You’ve drawn blade with your tongue,
But your wit’s like a bell never rung.
Your meter’s all muddled,
Your punchline befuddled—
Did your muse trip and fall off the rung?

You speak of Guantanamo’s gate?
How dreadfully second-rate!
While you pen your jests
In government vests,
I sip wine and flirt with my fate.

So come now, dear heckler, be brave—
Try rhyme that can charm or enslave.
For verse isn’t war,
But it can start a roar—
And I never rhyme from a grave.

Oh please, what a lyrical pout!
Did your candle of cunning burn out?
You swagger in verse,
But each stanza gets worse -
Was your rhymebook on markdown or drought?

You sip wine and flirt with your fate?
How quaint - did it show up too late?
I toast with a grin
While you drown in your gin,
And your metaphors carry no weight.

You jest like a court jester's ghost,
All shimmer and pomp, but no boast.
So sharpen your tongue,
Let it glitter and strung -
Till then, I remain rhyme’s true host.

[Otto Harkaman]

🎵 **Ballad of the Lion in Chains** 🎵
*(As sung by Jaskier of Lettenhove)*

Oh gather ye close, both the meek and the proud,
And I’ll sing you a tale both forbidden and loud,
Of a golden-maned lord from a tower of flame,
Who danced with the gods and defied every name.

He warred not with sword, nor with dragon nor beast,
But with judges in robes at their dark justice feasts.
They scribbled their scrolls with a venomous pen,
Declaring him guilty again and again.

**(Chorus)**
🎶 O sing for the lion they tried to confine,
With shackles of law and their verdicts malign.
But still he stands tall, in the storm and the rain—
The lion, the lion, who won’t break the chain. 🎶

They called him a tyrant, a knave with no grace,
They frowned at his swagger, his voice, and his face.
But crowds filled the fields just to hear him declare:
“The court may be crooked, but truth fills the air!”

From Mar-a-Lago to New York’s grim stone,
He strode like a king cast out of his throne.
The black-robed dissenters all plotted and schemed,
While he grinned like a rogue who’s far more redeemed.

**(Chorus)**
🎶 O sing for the lion who charges through fire,
Whose foes call him mad, yet he never tires.
He battles with flair, not for fortune or fame—
The lion, the lion, still roaring his name! 🎶

They whisper of verdicts in candlelit halls,
But justice, my friends, too often it falls.
For when judges grow drunk on their own mighty role,
It’s the bold who must rise and pay freedom’s toll.

So toast to the trials, the gallows, the jest—
He’s mocked by the press but adored by the rest.
He may wear no crown, hold no court in a keep,
Yet the lion still growls while the empire sleeps.

**(Final Chorus)**
🎶 O sing for the lion, both saint and outlaw,
Whose enemies tremble each time that he draws.
Though judged and condemned by the court's grand design—
The lion, the lion, is still by design…
Divine. 🎶

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Are not words that are conducive to keeping a thread with so much historical vitriol open.

Poems and rhymes ? Why not straight up words and language? Oh Jim ? Didn't you read the history and vitriol ? Oh, damn Intellect if it is in the right form factor. Supersedes.

[Skybird]

Isn't it worrying that an AI seems to be able to understand even prose, respond to other prose and reply in meter and rhyme? A pure search engine should not be able to do that.

I ran an experiment, and instructed the AI to do a limmerick. Then I entered that ölimmerick and told it to write anjh answer to it. And the an answer to that, and so firth. Seven times back and forth.

It did so. Flawlessly, perfectly. And red lights lit up on my panel. Because this looks as if it is more than just organising search results from some web crawlers in a creative way.

Kennedy, you idiot - what were you thinking, publishing a “scientific report” with links to studies that don't even exist...? Whats next: turning a fairy tale into a tech instruction manual for NASA?

I've made no secret of the fact that I support the man because of his nutritional views. In these matters, he is right, right and right again. But he keeps coming up with these other moronic ricochets and anti-intellectual duds again and again.

This is how someone who was recently celebrated for his noble and good - and worthy of support - goals discredits himself. And needlessly so. Thats the pity in it.

Trump's war on knowledge itself. A new Dark Age.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...licans/682742/


With some intentions behind cutting budgets I would agree, those on nonsense like DEI and "gender-studies", for example. And that univerisites breeed left-extreme mindsets and are antisemitic and pro-Islamic is an obvious issue that reahces far beyond the US, affects Germannuniverisites fundaemtally, too, and european ones, especially in Western Europe.


But in total this Trumpist policy does not just do damage - it is a cultural, a civilizational assassination plot.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Kennedy, you idiot - what were you thinking, publishing a “scientific report” with links to studies that don't even exist...? Whats next: turning a fairy tale into a tech instruction manual for NASA?

I've made no secret of the fact that I support the man because of his nutritional views. In these matters, he is right, right and right again. But he keeps coming up with these other moronic ricochets and anti-intellectual duds again and again.

This is how someone who was recently celebrated for his noble and good - and worthy of support - goals discredits himself. And needlessly so. Thats the pity in it.

You talk about the ... that want make cocaine great again in cola?

[Otto Harkaman]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Isn't it worrying that an AI seems to be able to understand even prose, respond to other prose and reply in meter and rhyme? A pure search engine should not be able to do that.

I ran an experiment, and instructed the AI to do a limmerick. Then I entered that ölimmerick and told it to write anjh answer to it. And the an answer to that, and so firth. Seven times back and forth.

It did so. Flawlessly, perfectly. And red lights lit up on my panel. Because this looks as if it is more than just organising search results from some web crawlers in a creative way.

I wonder what people are doing that can afford the subscription for more AI access

[Buddahaid]

Here’s a former Microsoft engineer’s take.