US Politics Thread 2021-24

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

Quote:
Van Hollen met last month with Abrego Garcia and advocated for his release, declaring that the deportation risks "the constitutional rights of everyone who resides in the United States of America." Van Hollen's trip sparked other left-wing lawmakers to also make the trip south, including Reps. Yassamin Ansari of Arizona, Maxine Dexter of Oregon, Maxwell Frost of Florida and Robert Garcia of California last month. At one point, Dexter pledged to remain in El Salvador until Abrego Garcia was brought back to the U.S.

I live in MD. Van Hollen constituents in his district are Latino. This is the sole reason he went. It was a political stunt and only looking to get votes at the next election. EVERYONE in MD recognized this the minute he booked the ticket. Radio talkshow hosts. The papers. You name it. It was a self-serving trip for no good reason but to keep is career going.

Buddahaid probably thinks differently. You know, due process and all. The same the J6 folks got. No wait.

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

More on the Greenland issue.
Can tell you that our politicians got their coffee in their wrong throat, when they read an article in an American newspaper saying Trump has given order to the intelligence service to increase spying on Greenland and Denmark.

As Lars Lokke Rasmussen, our Minister of foreign affairs said-Friends do not spy on each other and I'm going to having a talk with the American ambassador to find out what's up and down in this.

Markus

I saw this the other day and made laff!

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I live in MD. Van Hollen constituents in his district are Latino. This is the sole reason he went. It was a political stunt and only looking to get votes at the next election. EVERYONE in MD recognized this the minute he booked the ticket. Radio talkshow hosts. The papers. You name it. It was a self-serving trip for no good reason but to keep is career going.

Buddahaid probably thinks differently. You know, due process and all. The same the J6 folks got. No wait.

Oh, We all knew the trips to El Salvador for the " Political Grandstanding " that it was. I found it Interesting that the Democrats have been silent since Garcia's record and conduct have been made public. I hope the Democrats who went to El Salvador did so on their own dime.

The narrative that the Democrats have been using has changed since Garcia's record has come out is this isn't about about Garcia but about Due Process. We all know this is more of the same BS as Garcia has had many opportunities at " Due Process." Garcia Skipped out on them, presumably, because he knew his Asylum claims would be rejected.

The Democrats are now saying that all of us will be deported, especially Black people. This is little more than an attempt to get African Americans on their side. Then again, no one with any Intelligence or common sense believes the Democrats anyhow.

This is just a stall tactic by the Democrats and Garcia and the U.S needs to remain resolute and " ratchet " things up.

[AVGWarhawk]

Today the Senate voted the Gulf of Mexico to be renamed the Gulf of America.
Here’s how Maryland's representatives voted:

Sarah Elfreth, D: No
Andy Harris, R: Yes
Steny H. Hoyer, D: No
Glenn Ivey, D: No
April McClain Delaney, D: No
Kweisi Mfume, D: No
Johnny Olszewski, Jr., D: No
Jamie Raskin, D: No

I'm shocked. Shocked I tell ya!

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

Oh, We all knew the trips to El Salvador for the " Political Grandstanding " that it was. I found it Interesting that the Democrats have been silent since Garcia's record and conduct have been made public. I hope the Democrats who went to El Salvador did so on their own dime.

The narrative that the Democrats have been using has changed since Garcia's record has come out is this isn't about about Garcia but about Due Process. We all know this is more of the same BS as Garcia has had many opportunities at " Due Process." Garcia Skipped out on them, presumably, because he knew his Asylum claims would be rejected.

The Democrats are now saying that all of us will be deported, especially Black people. This is little more than an attempt to get African Americans on their side. Then again, no one with any Intelligence or common sense believes the Democrats anyhow.

This is just a stall tactic by the Democrats and Garcia and the U.S needs to remain resolute and " ratchet " things up.

Garcia is not the hill they want to die on because of what has been found. Time to go silent and hope it goes away.

Blacks deported? Well, if they are here illegally or past their legal stay, deport. It is the law no matter what color one is.

For crying out loud, every country deports illegals or those that past their legal stay. Nothing special going on in America.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Soy beans. Not good for animals, not good for humans, not good for the soil, not good for anyone or anything. I call it toxic garbage. That it even gets farmed shows how little many people do know about food and how perverse and corrupt our food industries are. Soy is toxic for our health, plain and simple. I tolerate it only in fermented form (soy sauce and natto, the latter being quite disguisting in smell, taste and looks, but actually being very rich in vitamin K2-MK7). Else, soy, like milk, should not be consumed in non-fermented form. And certainly no soy bean oil, thats very bad stuff.


Oh. Did I just trip over a wire?

I think your drunk, And you dream of having a nice Steak with a large baked potato and a salad.Of your choosing.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by mapuc

More on the Greenland issue.
Can tell you that our politicians got their coffee in their wrong throat, when they read an article in an American newspaper saying Trump has given order to the intelligence service to increase spying on Greenland and Denmark.

As Lars Lokke Rasmussen, our Minister of foreign affairs said-Friends do not spy on each other and I'm going to having a talk with the American ambassador to find out what's up and down in this.

Markus

Isn't Denmark in the NATO country Club ? And have you asked, Lars Lokke Rasmussen if your country is Accepting American Intelligence on your neighbors? Friends do not spy on each other, Really ?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

I think your drunk, And you dream of having a nice Steak with a large baked potato and a salad.Of your choosing.

Leave it to the steak, but no salad or potatoes, and I'm in .

Soy is filled with so many anti-nutrients and hormone blockers that any attempt to make a complete list will necessarily be incomplete. It makes people sick, fat, diabetic (with all the follow-up problems), dratsically cracks down on fertility, and tremendously impacts on the neurological development of children and juveniles: it makes them dumb, promotes behavioural problems and cognitive and intellectual deficits.

Especially soy oil should be avoided at any cost. AT. ANY COST.

Tofu:if you need it, it should be eaten rarely and then with lots of iron-loading food like fresh meat and fish. Much better is to heave eggs instead.

Miso, Natto, Tempeh and originally brewed Soy sauces are exceptions. They are fermented. Big difference. There are a few other fermented soy products as well that we in the West almost never have heard of. But needing them we do not.

Cattle, cows, sheep are no soy (or corn or grains) eaters either. Soy leaves its footprint in their metabolism, too - and then we eat these animals. Is that clever? Feed them grass, thats what they are made to eat - what is so difficult to understand in that...

[Dargo]

It was 24 June 2013. Rafael Nadal was eliminated in the first round of Wimbledon. The White House was furious at the Hong Kong government for not stopping Edward Snowden when he was due to take a flight to Moscow. Oh, and Berlusconi was sentenced to seven years in jail. In short, it was a day full of far-reaching events, yet there was only one news item in the United States that everyone was talking about. The US inspector general of social security had come out with the news that day that $31 million had accidentally been paid out to 1,546 Americans who were not entitled to it. American citizens spoke of outrage, claiming that they would never get these 31 million back. The US State, on the other hand, was very adamant that it would. Why it was so adamant about this, there was just not a very nice reason: because something even worse had happened. This was because the people who had wrongfully received benefits were all marked in the government database with a death certificate. This was therefore the reason why the US State was sure that these people would not leave with the money: after all, all these 1,546 people were dead. It was an unprecedented political blunder that would receive unprecedented attention in America. We found this incredibly funny, but something similar was going on in the Netherlands.

In 2013, the news programme Brandpunt found out that Bulgarians had managed to wrongfully receive subsidies from the Netherlands, a political debacle later dubbed the “Bulgarenfraude”. How these Bulgarians managed to do this was very simple. They registered as residents of the Netherlands, sent fake employment and rent contracts, opened a Dutch bank account, and then received thousands of euros in Dutch subsidies for healthcare and rent, among other things. There were many similarities between this event in the Netherlands and in America. In both cases, millions of taxpayers' money were devoured. In both cases, it involved a gigantic political blunder. And in both cases, everyone wondered how on earth this could have happened. The reaction from politicians was also the same in both cases. It was something that should never have happened, the government would argue, and they would do everything to prevent it from happening again. In both America and the Netherlands, this reaction was met with cheers, but from an economic point of view, it was the stupidest thing governments could do. Why? This is what we can learn from George Stigler's world-famous quote. 'You spend far too much time in airports when you have never missed your flight.'

Back for a moment to the summer of 2013. There was still outrage in the United States. Disbursing $31 million of taxpayers' money to deceased people could not be justified. It was felt that the US inspector general should resign. However, this would all change because of one man. Nicholas Beaudrot, an unknown man who loved maths and numbers, was curious to know how much damage had actually been done. $31 million seemed an insane amount to mispay, but his calculation showed that it amounted to just 0.004 per cent of all the payouts made that year. Paying out money to deceased people should never have happened, of course, but if such an awful fuss was made over such a minuscule mistake, you really couldn't help but conclude that the Social Security agency was doing its job insanely well. In the Netherlands, people would come to the same conclusion. Research showed that between 2007 and 2013, some 805 Bulgarians had wrongly received a total of four million euros in benefits, but since the Dutch state paid out 68 billion euros in benefits during this period, this amounted to only 0.006 per cent. This would put everything in perspective. Because while at first people were still talking about a gigantic political blunder, now they didn't think it was such a big deal. Yet there was one thing no one seemed to realise. Not only was it not a problem that these “blunders” had taken place. No, it was even good that they had happened.

That making (political) blunders costs an enormous amount of money is obvious to everyone. There is only one thing people do not realise: preventing blunders also costs an awful lot of money. As a society, we pay a price for drug trafficking, but also for dealing with it. Subsidy fraud can cost us millions, but detection and prevention also costs an awful lot of money. And transferring surcharges to deceased people creates huge costs, but the same goes for being 100 per cent sure that everything is done perfectly. Everything simply has a price. Not just the mistakes you make, but what you do to prevent it. Not just what you do, but also what you decide to omit. Not just committing blunders, but also averting them. That is the wise lesson we can learn from George Stigler. If you have never missed your flight, you spend too much time in airports. If an innocent person never ends up in jail, you convict too few guilty people. And if the government never commits blunders, then it spends far too much money to make everything perfect. After all, the ultimate form of government waste is not making blunders, but rather the lack of them.

[Commander Wallace]

Quote: Newark Mayor Ras Baraka was arrested Friday at a federal immigration detention center where he has been protesting its opening this week, a federal prosecutor said.

In a statement, The Department of Homeland Security said that the lawmakers had not asked for a tour of the facility, contrary to witnesses’ accounts. The department said further that as a bus carrying detainees was entering the facility, “a group of protestors, including two members of the U.S. House of Representatives, stormed the gate and broke into the detention facility.”

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/09/us/ne...tention-center

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/new-jerse...d-ice/6258503/



Apparently, the Democrats feel they are above the law.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

I saw this the other day and made laff!

Blödsinn. Virtually no Greenlander wants to join the US.


An overwhelming majority of Greenlanders want independence at some point but only 6% want their semi-autonomous country to secede from Denmark to become part of the US instead.
A new poll shows that 84% of Greenlanders want their homeland to be independent from Denmark. Yet almost half, 45%, say they only want it if it does not have a negative impact on their standard of living.

Only 9% say they do not want Greenlandic independence.

The poll by Greenlandic media Sermitsiaq and Danish newspaper Berlingske also shows that although 56 per cent of Greenlanders would vote yes to an independent state if a referendum were held tomorrow, few Greenlanders think Greenland is ready. Only 8% say that Greenland could become an independent state within a year, while 52% think it could happen within 10 or 20 years.
That is a far cry from the swift transition to American control US President Donald Trump is hoping for.

The poll also shows that 85% of Greenlanders reject leaving the Danish realm to join the US and 9% do not know.
But on whether US President Donald Trump's interest represents an opportunity or a threat, Greenlanders are nearly equally divided.
For 43% of them, his interest is an opportunity, a sentiment shared by Qupanuk Olsen, Greenland’s foremost influencer, who Euractiv met in Nuuk last week.
“I think it's fantastic that Trump has shown an interest in Greenland. It speeds up our country’s independence by 100 times,” she said.
Still, a marginally larger share, 45%, thinks Trump’s interest threatens the country.
The poll also showed citizenship preference. Of the 56.000 Greenlanders, 55% said they would prefer a Danish passport, while 8% would opt for US citizenship. Thirty-seven percent said they did not know.
The survey was conducted by Verian for Danish newspaper Berlingske and Greenlandic media Sermitsiaq between 22 January and 27 January 2025.
It is based on web interviews with 497 representatively selected citizens in Greenland aged 18 years or older and is weighted by gender, age, region, and party choice in the last Greenlandic parliamentary election in 2021.

The poll was published in the wake of Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen's tour around EU capitals to drum up support for Nuuk and Copenhagen.
Today, she met with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in Berlin, visited French President Emmanuel Macron in Paris and met with NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte in Brussels.
Just a day before, European support for Greenland was discussed at the EU foreign ministers' meeting, with the EU's new chief diplomat, Kaja Kallas, saying the EU backs Denmark and its autonomous territory and is "not negotiating" over Greenland. (MM)

https://www.euractiv.com/section/pol...us-poll-finds/



And the polls go like this since three months.

[Skybird]

I could have put this in the health thread, but this policy is so specifically affecting the US that i opted for this thread. This is why so many people had so high hopes for RFK. Watch at YT directly.

congrats to the USA if this goes through as intended.

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Blödsinn. Virtually no Greenlander wants to join the US.

Fixed for you then

[mapuc]

No Dave, Marc is correct. Only a few percentage of the habitants in Greenland wants to join USA.

Markus

[Dargo]

Why on earth would the people of Greenland want to join the US if they get more from an EU country, what is the purpose to vote yourself into poverty if you can live like a rich biaach in the EU!