Would Europe have survived

[August]

Originally Posted by Shadowblade

Germany could collapse even without US forces because of the naval blockade of Germany which was devastating to Germany and its economic.
Or both sides could be so exhausted by the war so they could have concluded a peace treaty (= no The Treaty of Versailles).
But Great war would be definitely longer without US forces.

I'm not so sure of that.

The Germans, fresh with a half million troops freed up from the Eastern front (my Great Grandfather amongst them) had pushed 18 miles through the front lines before the Americans stopped them at Chateau Thierry. I think exhaustion or not the Germans were on their way to Paris. Without American money and goods sent to the Entente before it's entry into the war it might have broken before that.

imho the conflict with Germany was unavoidable, because US supplied weapons to Europe and their escorts protected convoys. It was just matter of time.

I sometimes imagine hitler calling up tojo on Dec 8th and saying "Dumkopf I said to attack the USSR from the east not the USA from the west!"

Seriously though i'm not sure sure of it being just a matter of time here either. Without those US supplies would Germany have ever declared war on the USA? They didn't all through 1940-41 while we were shipping millions of tons of supplies across the Atlantic to the British. Not until a few days after we declared war on the Japanese did the Germans declare war on the USA on Dec 11th 1941 in accordance with their Tripartite Pact Mutual Defense treaty.

[mapuc]

I came to think of an episode of S.T TOS, where the doctor travel back in time and change history-Which mean no Enterprise. The rest of the story you know.

Markus