What's up with Turkey? - Page 2

Dargo · 12-20-24, 12:31 PM

Turkey foreign policy has not changed much since WW1, it always waits to pick the winner that serves their interest the best in WW1 they picked the wrong side in WW2 they decided to join the allies only after Rommel lost in Africa had Rommel won the battle of El-Alamein Turkey would have joined the Axis. It will always be oscillating between the power blocs.

Otto Harkaman · 03-08-25, 02:51 AM

Otto Harkaman · 03-08-25, 11:55 AM

A group of bipartisan House lawmakers are introducing legislation to redesignate Turkey as a Near Eastern country at the State Department, rather than a European country, as Ankara has moved away from the U.S. and NATO allies.

"An honest evaluation of the U.S .foreign policy bureaucracy reveals that we have unwittingly granted Turkey a "lobby" within multiple State Department bureaus, the size of which is wholly undeserved by a country that has, at best, become "neither friend nor foe,"

The group of lawmakers, led by Reps. Brad Schneider, D-Ill., and Gus Bilirakis, R-Fla., introduced the Turkey Diplomatic Realignment Act, which looks to formally move Turkey’s designation at the U.S. State Department from the Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs to the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, reflecting Ankara’s deepening ties with Russia, China, Iran, and Hamas, which are fundamentally at odds with Western security interests.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/bipart...ies-to-us-foes

Aktungbby · 03-08-25, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Raf1394

Thats something that i always find hypocritical. When Turkey has military power to get a edge towards the Soviet Union (what benefits NATO)
Everyone agrees what Turkey is doing.

But when Turkey suddenly starts expanding there influence in what Turkey sees as a benefit for themselves (they also have right to do it)
The world starts to complain haha.
i'm not Turkish

But people need to understand that the world doesn't only apply to the NATO. Other countries also have the right to get their interests.

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Originally Posted by Dargo

Turkey foreign policy has not changed much since WW1, it always waits to pick the winner that serves their interest the best in WW1 they picked the wrong side in WW2 they decided to join the allies only after Rommel lost in Africa had Rommel won the battle of El-Alamein Turkey would have joined the Axis. It will always be oscillating between the power blocs.

Turkey holds a key geo-political position on the south flank of the former Stalinist buffer-state empire that wouldbe Czar, Vladimir the Grate,

is trying to restore.

It controls the Bosphorus Strait and prevents Russian warships from exiting the the Black Sea, which, in conjunction with the recent collapse of ally Assad's Syria, is a serious strategic chokehold on Putin's WWIII seafaring aspirations in the Mediterranean/African theatre and beyond...The US should restore the nuclear weapons it removed from Turkey to resolve the 1960's Cuban missile crisis under JFK, giving our NATO ally back its serious deterrent clout.

Otto Harkaman · 03-21-25, 01:44 AM

Otto Harkaman · 03-21-25, 09:22 AM

Otto Harkaman · 03-22-25, 12:08 PM

Jimbuna · 03-24-25, 01:44 PM

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan accuses opposition politicians in Turkey of "disturbing the peace of our citizens with provocations" after a week of protests

"I believe that if [the opposition] has any respect left, they will be ashamed of the evil they have done to the country," he says

Unrest began on Wednesday when Istanbul's mayor Ekrem Imamoglu - an opponent of Erdogan - was detained on corruption charges

Imamoglu spent the night in jail on Sunday and says the charges are politically motivated, something Erdogan denies

Fresh crowds have now gathered in Istanbul for a sixth consecutive day of protests - watch live at the top of this page

Earlier, the Turkish government said 1,133 people had been arrested since the protests started

Turkey's presidential election is not scheduled until 2028 - Imamoglu was confirmed today as the Republican People's Party (CPH)'s candidate, after a symbolic primary vote

Eichhörnchen · 03-24-25, 05:48 PM

Well of course he'll "win" if he forcibly removes his only real opponent. Has the whole world gone bloody mad now? We seem to be rushing headlong back to the Dark Ages

Aktungbby · 03-24-25, 08:24 PM

...probably but there's gonna be a whole lotta light first??!

Catfish · 03-24-25, 09:25 PM

Indeed it seems like a falling back to the middle ages and its autocrats everywhere, but the coming... enlightenment will be nuclear.

Otto Harkaman · 03-24-25, 11:06 PM

Who is jailed Turkish opposition leader Ekrem Imamoglu?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/...ekrem-imamoglu

Skybird · 03-25-25, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Indeed it seems like a falling back to the middle ages and its autocrats everywhere, but the coming... enlightenment will be nuclear.

No, not necessarily, but it will be digital. So bright that everybody is totally transparent.

Jimbuna · 03-25-25, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Indeed it seems like a falling back to the middle ages and its autocrats everywhere, but the coming... enlightenment will be nuclear.

Quite possibly

Eichhörnchen · 03-27-25, 11:36 AM

Another dictator spreads his wings. I've been asking lately - is the world going mad? All these despots in the ascendent, their people seemingly helpless to choose change because of a totalitarian boot on their necks. We've heard the Turkish opposition decrying the lack of a sympathetic response from the British Government - and now their inaction/appeasement bears its inevitable fruit: the BBC's Mark Lowen has been arrested and deported. It's almost beyond belief - but with the way the world id going now anything's possible

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/st...-of-mark-lowen

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Otto Harkaman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 1,189 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	A group of bipartisan House lawmakers are introducing legislation to redesignate Turkey as a Near Eastern country at the State Department, rather than a European country, as Ankara has moved away from the U.S. and NATO allies. "An honest evaluation of the U.S .foreign policy bureaucracy reveals that we have unwittingly granted Turkey a "lobby" within multiple State Department bureaus, the size of which is wholly undeserved by a country that has, at best, become "neither friend nor foe," The group of lawmakers, led by Reps. Brad Schneider, D-Ill., and Gus Bilirakis, R-Fla., introduced the Turkey Diplomatic Realignment Act, which looks to formally move Turkey’s designation at the U.S. State Department from the Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs to the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, reflecting Ankara’s deepening ties with Russia, China, Iran, and Hamas, which are fundamentally at odds with Western security interests. https://www.foxnews.com/world/bipart...ies-to-us-foes __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,909 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	President Recep Tayyip Erdogan accuses opposition politicians in Turkey of "disturbing the peace of our citizens with provocations" after a week of protests "I believe that if [the opposition] has any respect left, they will be ashamed of the evil they have done to the country," he says Unrest began on Wednesday when Istanbul's mayor Ekrem Imamoglu - an opponent of Erdogan - was detained on corruption charges Imamoglu spent the night in jail on Sunday and says the charges are politically motivated, something Erdogan denies Fresh crowds have now gathered in Istanbul for a sixth consecutive day of protests - watch live at the top of this page Earlier, the Turkish government said 1,133 people had been arrested since the protests started Turkey's presidential election is not scheduled until 2028 - Imamoglu was confirmed today as the Republican People's Party (CPH)'s candidate, after a symbolic primary vote __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,467 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Well of course he'll "win" if he forcibly removes his only real opponent. Has the whole world gone bloody mad now? We seem to be rushing headlong back to the Dark Ages __________________

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Otto Harkaman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 1,189 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Who is jailed Turkish opposition leader Ekrem Imamoglu? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/...ekrem-imamoglu __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm Last edited by Otto Harkaman; 03-25-25 at 01:23 AM.

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Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,467 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Another dictator spreads his wings. I've been asking lately - is the world going mad? All these despots in the ascendent, their people seemingly helpless to choose change because of a totalitarian boot on their necks. We've heard the Turkish opposition decrying the lack of a sympathetic response from the British Government - and now their inaction/appeasement bears its inevitable fruit: the BBC's Mark Lowen has been arrested and deported. It's almost beyond belief - but with the way the world id going now anything's possible https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/st...-of-mark-lowen __________________