[REL] Dark Waters

[Bubblehead1980]

Wondering how many of you used my night surface attack mod when allowed historical attacks in DW, including from inside convoys.

Looking for feedback to compare with my experiences.

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Wondering how many of you used my night surface attack mod when allowed historical attacks in DW, including from inside convoys.

Looking for feedback to compare with my experiences.

i almost did one, quite by accident.

we were making our approach and fired at four targets. i thought i had given the order to dive the boat, however, as the four torpedoes hit, we began to to take topside damage from gunfire.

opp forces are very accurate however my valiant crew was able to dive the boat without serious damage or injury.

i think we were within 3000m when we launched, moving at 1-2 kts. so, we were close.

IMHO, i doubt that we could have penetrated the formation, attacked, and escaped all on the surface.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

i almost did one, quite by accident.

we were making our approach and fired at four targets. i thought i had given the order to dive the boat, however, as the four torpedoes hit, we began to to take topside damage from gunfire.

opp forces are very accurate however my valiant crew was able to dive the boat without serious damage or injury.

i think we were within 3000m when we launched, moving at 1-2 kts. so, we were close.

IMHO, i doubt that we could have penetrated the formation, attacked, and escaped all on the surface.

When finished with TMO update V2.1 I will address this. I had made it where could get inside convoy on surface, attack, and escape per history in the first part of the war, I was able to. Really does depend on the conditions, time of night. Spacing of formation has to be adjusted. Balancing it to maintain difficulty, danger, but ability to pull off the historic attacks is always a challenge.

ATO is different than PTO I'll work on it so can do so in Dark Waters as I did in PTO in TMO mod.

[1Patriotofmany]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Wondering how many of you used my night surface attack mod when allowed historical attacks in DW, including from inside convoys.

Looking for feedback to compare with my experiences.

I have, it's better than stock, but needs to be even better to imitate closer attacks like in real life IMO. BTW Sir, can I use it in other mods, or is it DW only? I just checked, I have it second on the list in JSGME

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by 1Patriotofmany

I have, it's better than stock, but needs to be even better to imitate closer attacks like in real life IMO. BTW Sir, can I use it in other mods, or is it DW only? I just checked, I have it second on the list in JSGME

Nice. I will work on this in DW more after TMO update.

No, it's specifically made for DW. Aside from darker nights each mod requires balancing of visual sensors, etc. What works in one will likely not work in other.

Now, I do have it fine tuned in TMO for US fleetboats, which is where I first made this possible as in TMO Update, player can pull off historically accurate night surface attacks, including from inside larger convoys under right conditions in 1944/45. Really adds a whole new level level to the sim.

Goal is to get there in DW for uboats in 1939-early-mid 1943 when it was a common method of attack

[1Patriotofmany]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Nice. I will work on this in DW more after TMO update.

No, it's specifically made for DW. Aside from darker nights each mod requires balancing of visual sensors, etc. What works in one will likely not work in other.

Now, I do have it fine tuned in TMO for US fleetboats, which is where I first made this possible as in TMO Update, player can pull off historically accurate night surface attacks, including from inside larger convoys under right conditions in 1944/45. Really adds a whole new level level to the sim.

Goal is to get there in DW for uboats in 1939-early-mid 1943 when it was tactic used.

Good to see you back posting and that would be greatly appreciated Bubblehead1980, I'll be at the front of the pack to download it.

[1Patriotofmany]

Whoever made the DW mod, I've gotten the XXIII when I reached close to the end of the campaign, Is it possible to add the XXI? Also maybe make the XXI available early in the campaign(like the beginning) as a What IF scenario using the XXI uboat from the regular wolves of the pacific? Would it be hard to do?

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by 1Patriotofmany

Whoever made the DW mod, I've gotten the XXIII when I reached close to the end of the campaign, Is it possible to add the XXI? Also maybe make the XXI available early in the campaign(like the beginning) as a What IF scenario using the XXI uboat from the regular wolves of the pacific? Would it be hard to do?

you can get the XXI December 1944 if you are assigned to Bergen.
unlike the various pacific campaigns, DW is not as flexible in allowing a player to upgrade-and-transfer to get a boat of a particular type.


while playing DW, with very few exceptions, one must decide at the start of the career on what path they wish to play their career and then follow that path until it ends.


so, if you want to eventually drive any one boat type you have plan it out.


there is a spreadsheet of port-vs-boat included in the Support folder in DW. you should check it out and then make your career decision(s) prior to starting.


DW is pretty slick...it's just not like the Pacific theatre.


happy to jump on a Discord call to chat about it if you want.

[1Patriotofmany]

Okay so it would be difficult then to just add the XXI to other ports and/or other times like right at the beginning...... I couldn't find the port vs sub in any of the support readmes or word and other files.


Now what about introducing the acoustic torpedos and/or other sub goodies at the beginning of the war? Is this as easy as changing a date in some file?



I really want to do whatifs. I can only change text type files, I see that I could change the speeds on the surface and submerged, crush depths things like that to do a little what if, but I'd really dig if some of you programmers could tell me how to change the date of introduction for the acoustic torps, radars ect in what files they are in and how to change the data.


EDIT: or not..... I changed the speeds on the surface and submerged, but they stayed the same.....I also tried changing the sub type in the documents folder, it changed it self back.....