US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Telling it like it is.

Now, Elon is the enemy, How many millions is this politician in the video worth?
Come on Buddahaid ? America is tired of your Spider society and the negative vibes....Yes we are not stupid anymore. For those of us who were 20 looking for hope and change in 2009 , have found out 15 years later at 35 we have been left on the streets of nowhere. Dead broke and no fulfilled promises . By grandmas and grandpas who just have to dictate.

[Otto Harkaman]

privatized Social Security, worrisome

Here's a link to a CNBC article from July 2020 that details Trump’s stance on Social Security and clarifies that he would not move to privatize the program:
Trump says he won’t privatize Social Security
This article outlines how Trump consistently maintained that he would preserve Social Security as is, despite some advisors having floated ideas about private accounts to supplement benefits.

I wasn’t able to locate any recent, reputable news articles or official statements that detail Elon Musk’s position on Social Security privatization. Unlike President Trump, whose views on Social Security have been widely reported, Musk has not prominently addressed this topic in major news outlets.

I had asked the AI questions if anyone has links about Musk's position please post.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

privatized Social Security, worrisome

I had asked the AI questions if anyone has links about Musk's position please post.

Why do you have to ask AI. Your just another, coming in at a different angle.Calm down. We had potato Joe for 3.5 years. And i can't afford a egg or to buy a chicken to lay a egg. How many eggs do you have in your refrigerator?

And i f we can find that Usaid money. Every single American can not only have a backyard full of chickens, But any other animals they can raise. Hell they could have at least . Be given 5 acres per citizen. Free.

What the hell, 2 years ago you people wanted to go green, Now you want to overrun a Tesla Dealership burn cars and destroy any charging stations. Is there anyone or group out there that can tell me why this is necessary ?

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It was not. You are retired. It is directed at the federal employees who are in utter disbelief they got fired. Are they some kind of protected class? This happens in the working world daily. It is called. "how the other half live."

Oh, damn yes you have brought back memories, Of my youth and i didn't work for the Government. But i had a wife and a son, And i will just say this, I was never out of work for more than 2 weeks. If i didn't want to be.

The difference from 1968 when i was 10, and my parents rubbing quarters to make nickel's so i and my 2 sisters could have a lunch at school. Is a forever memory.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

Oh, damn yes you have brought back memories, Of my youth and i didn't work for the Government. But i had a wife and a son, And i will just say this, I was never out of work for more than 2 weeks. If i didn't want to be.

The difference from 1968 when i was 10, and my parents rubbing quarters to make nickel's so i and my 2 sisters could have a lunch at school. Is a forever memory.

Twice for me. Wife, kids and a mortgage. No one gave a crap. My new job was find a new job. Landed one in 8 weeks. It was to the point I would take anything. Three months on the new job, job eliminated. Back to the drawing board. Sigh..... Where is my job fair??? Where was my assistance from local government? Applied for unemployment. Never received it.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

Now, Elon is the enemy, How many millions is this politician in the video worth?
Come on Buddahaid ? America is tired of your Spider society and the negative vibes....Yes we are not stupid anymore. For those of us who were 20 looking for hope and change in 2009 , have found out 15 years later at 35 we have been left on the streets of nowhere. Dead broke and no fulfilled promises . By grandmas and grandpas who just have to dictate.

Elon is very likely working outside the law with the new lawless and disorder party.

Working outside the laws and Constitution is the entire problem with this administration and I don't see how someone can call themselves patriotic for doing so without throwing up.

And in view of that, here's a new court order for Elon and DOGE.

"It is further ORDERED that Defendants Elon Musk, U.S. DOGE Service, and U.S. DOGE
Temporary Organization shall produce the requested documents and respond to the interrogatories
and requests for admissions in Plaintiffs’ Discovery Requests, as amended by the court, within 21 days of this Order.

Defendants’ request for a stay of any order granting expedited discovery is
DENIED.

It is further ORDERED that Plaintiffs’ request to notice two depositions is DENIED
without prejudice.

It is further ORDERED that Plaintiffs’ forthcoming motion for a preliminary injunction
shall be CONSOLIDATED with a hearing on the merits under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure
65(a)(2).

Date: March 12, 2025
Tanya S. Chutkan
TANYA S. CHUTKAN
United States District Judge"

https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...463.61.0_1.pdf

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Elon is very likely working outside the law with the new lawless and disorder party.

Working outside the laws and Constitution is the entire problem with this administration and I don't see how someone can call themselves patriotic for doing so without throwing up.

As if the dems did not discard the Constitution when it suited. No. Never!!

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

As if the dems did not discard the Constitution when it suited. No. Never!!

Citation please that shows how it was done outside of the legal process.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Citation please that shows how it was done outside of the legal process.

Do tell the process. If it was not legal, where is SCOTUS?

We can start here:

https://cha.house.gov/_cache/files/2...g-24-2021-.pdf

[VipertheSniper]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

I know, i'm 5 days late. Well let's just say we hold them and see who comes to defend them. And within the visions of Democracy, Yes we can and will look at not only the accused but the one who comes to defend them. And they will both get a fair trial by the people.

And if the suspect and his lawyer are found innocent, they will not be shot.

So you're willing to piss away non-arbitrary justice and the presumption of innocence for a few bucks essentially. Because I can guarantee you, if you got your wish, it won't stop with suspects of fraud.
Why even have trial? According to you they're all guilty anyway and have to prove their innocence, so why not shoot them on the spot? To give a veneer of justice?

You're essentially talking about mob-justice or lynching here.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Do tell the process. If it was not legal, where is SCOTUS?

We can start here:

https://cha.house.gov/_cache/files/2...g-24-2021-.pdf

Fine, that's a report and an opinion. Did the legislation pass, and if so, why is it then unconstitutional?

SCOTUS will get involved with most of the current legal proceedings and it will boil down to where Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett stand.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Fine, that's a report and an opinion.

Much like yours. A report or opinion.

[Buddahaid]

Sure, I have an opinion but I’ve also backed it up with Article 3 binding court filings.

[Skybird]

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/14/p...-us/index.html

“What Donald Trump is launching is an assault on incumbency, those who are in power, by mobilizing a supremacism against the incumbency at home and … abroad as well,” said Rasool, who was on his second tour as ambassador to the US. He presented his credentials in mid-January to then-President Joe Biden and previously served in Washington, DC, under the Obama administration.
He said that the Make America Great Again movement was a response “not simply to a supremacist instinct,” but to shifts in US demographics “in which the voting electorate in the USA is projected to become 48% white and that the possibility of a majority of minorities is looming on the horizon.”

And that hits the bull's eye. I first mentioned that outlook already during the Bush jr years, and that it would trigger a reaction from the Republicans that most likely would lead to authoritarianism, even with the possibility of establishing a dictatorship with strong support of the radical evangelical "Christians".

[Reece]