Donald Trump secures release of American Marc Fogel

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

This doesn't look good for us in Europe - I say no more

I think President Trump has surrounded himself with good people. I think in turn, Those people will tell Trump How Important the NATO Countries in Europe are, especially the U.K, Germany, Poland and others. I think Trump realizes that on his own, as well.

[Eichhörnchen]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

I think President Trump has surrounded himself with good people. I think in turn, Those people will tell Trump How Important the NATO Countries in Europe are, especially the U.K, Germany, Poland and others. I think Trump realizes that on his own, as well.

Well since I posted earlier we've heard the US proposals & it might not be as bad as we'd feared: they didn't close the door on Ukraine's admittance to NATO - just not yet. Well, to be fair, no-one expected that to be fast-tracked anyway so no surprise there

What seems important to me is that even if the Russians get to keep some of their gains these will always remain as occupied territory under international law, and essentially Zelensky has been the victor for keeping the enemy at bay; let's just see how the Russians get on with subduing the locals in these territories (unless they commit further crimes by evicting them) - it might be another Afghanistan for them

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

Well since I posted earlier we've heard the US proposals & it might not be as bad as we'd feared: they didn't close the door on Ukraine's admittance to NATO

Glynn they actually slammed the door shut imho.



The video is viewable if you click the link on the bottom.

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Your video is 'unavailable' - I've been trying to find another clip but as I heard it the US Defence Secretary said that membership of NATO would not form part of any forthcoming settlement - to me that just means "for the time being"

If that has changed or they plan to block Ukraine's future formal applications then this would be unforgivable

Found it:-

[Catfish]

Did the US decide this without hearing other Nato members.

[Eichhörnchen]

I'm sure of it

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Did the US decide this without hearing other Nato members.

I hope not. I wish we, NATO and the U.S would have simply given the Ukraine the weapon's they needed and let them do what they needed to do. That includes long range weapons. The Ukraine has shown they know how to fight, and with courage.

[Eichhörnchen]

^ I agree

I saw a headline just now "Trump offers Putin a way back in from the cold" - these journo's just do not think before they write: how can he ever come in from the cold?