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Raf1394 has made a Best of SUBSIM nomination.
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I don't believe everything those experts say.
Its very simple, people eat to much and move to little.
A healthy way of living is simple. no smoking, no alcohol. eat less meat, more fruit and vegetables.In general move more (just walking is enough)
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That simple it is not, and on veggies and fruits I must strictly object. Its unwanted fibres and carbohydrates=sugars, the content in micro and macro nutrients is much overestimated and got further degraded over the past 100 years by factors up to 8-9 due to the sterilization and destruction of fertile grounds, and the bioavailabilty of those limited amounts of nutrients gets further reduced by active anti-nutrients in plants. But our metabolism is biochemically defined, and this definition says: predominant input please animal protein, animal fat. And its like that since several million years of biological evolution. It has been shown very clearly that the physical degeneration of man started immediately when man started to settle down and started agricultural farming 12.000 years ago. There was no delay!
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People always think they have to eat a lot. But that is not true.
i never see any of those experts staying ''eat less''
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Then you have no cared to listen closer. They say that all the time. Ketonegic diet, carnivore and intermittend fasting are about that. The criticism of snack options being omnipresent is often voiced, and so is in many of the videos I linked.
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its better to eat one apple and one carrot then eating a whole menu of Mcdonalds...
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I would prefer eggs and butter, but avoiding fast food is part of the remedy, absolutely.
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i don't believe in having three meals a day is needed. Some people eat more during the dinner, then me the entire day.
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I agree there, three meals is not needed. And mind you, nutrition experts of the mainstream want you to eat even more, 5 servings of fruits, 7 servings of veggies, two servings of full corn, for example. All this thinking is no dietary or health-related thinkling, but in the end is about selling: selling the inferior content in the supermarket.
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When i was in the army, i was eating those organised 3 meals a day. Even while doing sports, i become fat.
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Left to this description alone, this is of anecdotal value only. It depends on WHAT you were eating, and drinking (soft and energy drinks on my mind), and wether seed oils were consumed or not. And of course how much is being eaten, yes. Even a carnivore can gain weight if he exaggerates it with the fat intake. Thats why it is recommended to leave fat intake to the content of the meat you eat, but not add more fat for exmaple in the form of cheese, or cream in the coffee (which I both do, I admit, due to variation of taste).
One thing to make it clear, carnivore is no weight loss diet, it is a weight optimization diet. It happens to a lot of people, me included, that you lose weight fast, and then gain some weight again - and in this case this is not the often quoted jojo-effect, but is due to changes in the metabolism. With the jojo, you would gain weight without limit, until you are where you started - and then often even exceed that value! I regained around one third of what I lost before - and since then stay stabile. Thats the big difference.
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Now sometimes i just eat one meal a day. and i feel great. Never been sick my entire life. I believe its in the genes, every human is different.
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Yes, we are individuals, but there are profound biochemical and genetic design characteristics that we nevertheless share and that are unquestionable for every human being. I was sick a lot in my life, flus, coughs, yseaosnal virus things, every ocuple fo weeks, for miost of my life. It ended when I started to supplement, I got off my blood pressure meds when I started to alter diet and I feel fantastic since I am carnivore. I have not been ill, I cannot get ill anymore since 5, 6 years. Before that I weas ille very 4-5 weeks. All my life! I was todl for many years, and kept in fearl that I wpoudl die erarlky dueto some mysterous neurological complication they even could not precisely identify. A story over! I am free of symptomsand pains, since years! Especially this is something I find hard to forgive the "doctors". Telling people they must die and keeping them in worry for years and years.
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Its the same thing with poor or average people who did hard labor and smoked, and they eventually reached the age of 100. Then you got rich celebrities or those royalties that didn't even reach the age of 40 and already got cancer? (while they have the best healthcare)
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I get what you want to point out, but I would be more cautious in wording it this way, it simplifies a complex matter.
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A healthy lifestyle is important. But i believe a good percentage of our health is based on your genes.
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Yes to both. I mentioned the 7th Day Adventist Church before, they are strictly vegan, many o nthem at least. They are indeed healthier on average than the average US populatipon on SAD. They sell veganism (they call it Garden Eden diet) by this correlation. However, they share the same biochemical basics with the rest of mankind, and so one can say that they are not healthier due to their diet, but due to other facts. And these are: they dont smoke. They dont take drugs. They dont drink alcohol. They indeed exercise more than others. They take less medications. And probably - this is my assumption - they dont eat all day long, from snack to snack. They are healthier not due to their diet, but despite their diet (because veganism is an instruction set for damaging yourself, its simply not a proper human diet, because it is not even near to complete, thats why statistically 17 in 20 US Americans and Candians must give up veganism on average after 5-6 years: they have then so serious health conditions - when when supplementing! - that they cannot stick to it any longer). If you follow to 100% a strictly vegan diet, YOU DIE, every time, that simple it is. Thus it CANNOT be the species-adequate proper human diet.
I eat within an 8 hour window. Close to noon I may have - or may have not - an omlette of three eggs with inlaying fatty pure cheese without any unneeded chemical ingredients (melting salts and the likes). Maybe two slices of bacon or ham. Always a mug of coffee with cream and a VERY MILD sweetness (black coffee makes me almost puking). And around 7 p.m. I start to fry myself some fatty beef, always a steak (Entrecote, almost the same like RibEye, both are fatty), depending on the size I may add one or two burger patties or a piece of lamb. Fish and chicken have disappeared from my card all by themselves. I use salt, no more black pepper (it stopped all by itself), I vary taste by using or not using herbal butter, Irish butter cheese, fresh feta cheese, or a fresh cheese with garlic arome (utmost delicous, Boursin is the brand name). I mostly have a carb-reduced beer with it: 8gr per half a litre.
My health and weight benefitted tremendously, as I often have described.
Golden rules as I see them:
- avoid plant seed oils (use tallow, butter or ghee, coconut oil, olive oil or avocado oil instead. Myself I get along with tallow and butter alone)
- avoid soft and energy drinks
- say farewell to the belief that cereals, corn flakes, veggies or fruits are healthy for us
- say farewell to the belief that we need fibre
- dratsically cut down or even delete bread, dough for pizza, potatoe, rice, pasta
- reduce or cut refined sugar, sweeteners, delete HFCS and other corn syprupo swetteneing sutff, honey, and all that sweet stuff. Sugar is sugar. Glucose is glucose, fructose is fructose.
- Avoid soy, lentils, nuts
- Repeat when I say: "fat does not make you fat, but carbohydrates make you fat". :)
- avoid "lite" and fat-reduced products.
- eat salt to your liking, do not artificially reduce it, if you are attracted by the taste of it, get it
- understand that cereals and corn products (bread) mostly are starch. In other words: sugar. They all drive insuline. Fat does not, proteine almost not.
- avoid stuff containing maltrose, maltrodextrine
- avoid industrially processed food
- avoid snacking
- dont trust mainstream doctors blindly
- eat as much as you feel attracted by the taste of your meat. Stop eating when that feeling and taste fade out. Thats how animals do it.
- have a 16-18 hour fast per day
- use the stairs, not the lift
- dont use the car for every little something
- if you can get yourself to it: exercise muscle training
- drink when you are thirsty. Dont drink becase the timetable says its time to do so. Beyond that, dont care more for it, they are making a religion of drinking these days. Its about business again! Our body knows it better. Several million years of evolution know it better than any "expert". Trust your body, listen to it. Drink when you want, dont if you dont want.
- supplement according to my usual recomendations, especially high doses of Vitamine D, Magnesium (in various forms, not necessarily MG oxide), K2-MK7, Zinc; then Iodine and Selenium; then liposomal Vitamin-C; a good Omega-3 source (either regular fatty sea fish or a daily fish oil, but always bottled and never encapsuled); and my secret tip: reduced coenzyme Q10, thats the more expensive form of it named Ubiquinol (not Ubiquinon, its bioavailability is very inferior in comparison!)
Omega-3 and Ubiquinol are the two misdoers who really drive the costs, they are expensive. For myself I decided that it is worth it for me. Everybody must make his own decision. My choice must not be yours.
Dying we must one day anyway. The only question is how we must live until then: in pain, weak, depending and miserably, or - better. I try to avoid suffering and later dependency. Not necessarily to extend my life.
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