GER politics thread

[August]

Sad to see my mothers homeland come to this.

In Germany, a Man Who Was Stabbed by a Jihadi Has Been Fined for Criticizing Islam

Here is a story that neatly encapsulates the threat that the West faces and the weakness of its response to that threat. In Germany, a vociferous critic of jihad violence and Sharia oppression of women and others, Michael Stürzenberger, was stabbed several months ago by a jihadi precisely because of his opposition to those evils. Now, a German court has added insult to injury, convicting Stürzenberger of “incitement to hatred” and fining him €3,600 ($3,800). So it has come to this: what the jihadi began, the German government is now continuing. What will be the effects of this on the freedom of speech in Germany? That’s obvious: if this continues, Germany is dead as a free society.

https://pjmedia.com/robert-spencer/2...islam-n4934902

[Ostfriese]

Yeah, that happens if you restrict yourself to sources that only give you half the truth.

a vociferous critic of jihad violence and Sharia oppression of women and others, Michael Stürzenberger,

What a nice way to describe an outright anti-muslim and nazi who has been convicted more than a dozen times.

[Skybird]

Click on "I already support", and you can pass for free.

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As the expansion of subsidized random power came along with the brilliant idea of ​​taking conventional power plants off the grid when nuclear and coal were phased out, the risk of imbalance in the power grid was significantly increased and at the same time the number of systems that stabilize the power grid was significantly reduced. Not a good idea for guaranteeing people and the economy a secure and inexpensive energy supply, because the need for control in a power system with thousands of decentralized systems is enormous.

The energy transition has caused the number of interventions required by grid operators to avoid large-scale power outages or even blackouts to explode. The number of grid operator interventions is currently around 15,500. By the end of 2024, the 17,000 mark could be broken. Although many of these necessary measures are carried out using computers in the large control rooms of the large transmission system operators responsible for the high-voltage grid, many of these grid interventions are also carried out manually. The interventions that stabilize the power grid are now part of everyday life.
A colleague told me that some power plant requests are made by phone or email. The control rooms of the transmission system operators are really stressed in the summer, when there is far too much electricity that no one needs because of photovoltaics, and in the winter, when much more electricity is needed than can be generated by the remaining power plants.

As the expansion of completely inefficient random energy from wind power and photovoltaics continues, as well as the shutdowns of power plants that reliably produce electricity, grid interventions will continue to increase and the risk of a large-scale power outage or even a nationwide blackout in Germany will continue to rise.

It lasts forever - until it doesn't last anymore.

Criminal, ideologically fanatized stupids at the helm. Launch the lifeboats. Warners and smart people first.

On a sidenote: the quota of companies shutting down their operations in Germany and leaving, has hit an all-time high. So has the quota of onsolvencies. And both numbers are steeply mounting. The two domina nt reasons given: excessive bureaucracy, and instabile power for the wordwide highest costs.

And all along the CDU and its posterboy Merz mull a coalition with the Greens and their economy destroyer Habeck next year.

[Skybird]

Free opinion and free speech in Germany 2024 A.D.

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Incidentally (well, not really...), two Green politicians, Habeck and Baerbock, are the two politicians who top the rankings in terms of the number of charges and accusations of insult filed at court by them each year, with both of them filing several hundred charges each year. In case this is even reported on and examples were given, it was not always clear that a distinction was made between personal insult on the one hand and dissenting opinion and/or criticism of politics on the other. Well, differing opinins are an insult in itself, maybe.

You are still allowed to express any opinion in Germany. If it is the right opinion. But if it's not left-woke-red-green enough, then the uniform party regime will strike back with a vengeance!

For some of the things I have posted here in this forum over the last few years, if I were to post them in German in Germany, I could be thrown into prison and/or sentenced to high five-figure fines. And that's not a joke, nor is it an exaggeration, nor is it a pose I'm adopting in order to brazen myself out.

It is simply the appalling truth about where Germany is now and how low it has sunk.


Left-wing attitude-terror has Germany firmly in its grip: in schools, at universities, in research, in the media, in the zeitgeist and in politics. And this situation is no coincidence, but has been systematically sought and gradually realized since the student unrest at the end of the 1960s.

It is appalling what is unfolding here. Obviously the Third Reich and the GDR have not been enough to teach people some lessons on socialist dictatorship. We are on track to have our third go with these.

[Skybird]

I say this since two years, and already in late 2022 first suspicions came up and were reported on by a very few media - which immediately were gagged.

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And this is the party the CDU prepares a coalition with next year.

Habeck also traveled to France in 2022 to arrange the supply of evil French nuclear power to Germany. He forbade this to be widely reported, as at home he was busy trying to kill off the last four nuclear power plants in the midst of the energy crisis in order to woo the Greens' main clientele - sectarian opponents of nuclear power. Party before nation, clientele before people, power before the general interest.


This country is so finished. It can only get worse, I see no chance how it ever could get better. Maybe after the next total collapse, for a short while to come...

[Skybird]

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Politicians want to continue to deny reality and simply ignore the facts. Instead of perceiving reality, the political bubble is hermetically sealed. Now associations are also being excluded - only large party-led state associations are still allowed.
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These parties have long since sealed themselves off from any intrusion of reality into their bubble and are dividing up the positions among themselves. The party leaders of the CDU, the Greens and the SPD promise each other in front of the cameras that they will not be too harsh on one another during the election campaign - after all, it is about common ground. The election campaign is becoming a farce, not a debate, because the CDU is already establishing consensus instead of fighting for its own positions.

Anyone expecting alternative answers to pressing questions will get stuck in the babble of party jargon. In Thuringia, an all-party coalition has been formed, from the CDU to the SED-PDS, which has been renamed The Left. A law was quickly passed that protects the head of the State Office for the Protection of the Constitution, Stephan Kramer, from parliamentary control. This means that this highly questionable figure can continue his party-politically pleasing form of constitutional protection unchecked.

And finally, they are also insulating themselves from associations and clubs that have previously asked critical questions about the issues that concern them during the federal election campaign and have fed various Wahl-O-Mats. In future, only a few large associations will be allowed to ask questions of the sovereigns at all. It is an unbelievable process: the party cartel (there is no other name for it) made up of the CDU/CSU, SPD, Greens, FDP and the Left Party has agreed on a joint communication during the election campaign - in other words, the most important competition between the parties - that excludes critical questions and questioners from the outset. This at least partially undermines the competition between the parties provided for in the Basic Law. Does the constitutional duty of the parties to participate in the formation of the will of the people cover such a step?

The intention is clear. The "large associations" that are still permitted at the court in Berlin have long been under the tutelage of political parties. Just a few examples:
The German Red Cross is headed by the long-standing CSU regional group leader Gerda Hasselfeldt, and guarantees that questions about the situation of marginalized groups will not be asked. The area is doubly protected, and the umbrella organization "German Paritätischer Wohlfahrtsverband" does not act in the interests of the socially disadvantaged, but acts in a party-political manner. Ulrich Schneider, general manager of the Paritätischer Gesamtverband, explains on behalf of the association: The DPWV supports the alliance "AfD ban now, which wants to increase the pressure for an AfD ban together." Certainly an important task for a social association whose managing director is a prominent politician from the Left Party.

In the Federal Association of Electricity and Water Works, the former Green Party leaders Gunda Röstel and Kerstin Andreae (deputy Green parliamentary group leader in the Bundestag) set the tone, which does not question the energy transition, but pushes it forward to the detriment of member companies. The Association of the Automotive Industry is kept on an anti-combustion engine course by Merkel's confidante Hildegard Müller. One can therefore imagine the critical questions that such associations ask - and that an open debate on everything from pension policy to deindustrialization is eliminated by energy policy.

In this way, political speech bubbles and backroom agreements replace social discourse and prevent reality from penetrating. And if it cannot be avoided, then there are always the great enemies from outside. In view of the catastrophic situation in the energy sector, the population should prepare for emergencies and hoard supplies, explains René Funk, Vice President of the Federal Office of Civil Protection and Disaster Assistance (BBK), and immediately names the culprits: China, Iran and Russia are planning hybrid attacks on the German power supply. The fact that the energy supply is deliberately ailing due to the voluntary, targeted and planned shutdown of power plants as part of the energy transition is not mentioned in the statement. It could worry the population and name those really responsible.

Elections only make sense if you have the choice between different alternatives. This availability of alternatives has been deliberately and intentionally deleted, and I observe that since all my life as a grown up adult.

Its all a farce.

If you vote, you express your legitimation for this corrupt, foul, rotten system. By doing so, you forfeit your right to criticise it afterwards, therefore, because you legitmised in advance what then you want to criticise.

Thats why they want you to participate in this show. They want to turn you silent and turn you into accomplices in their crime. But dont have illusions, dont fool yourself: you may go voting, but you cannot really choose between anything anyway. You just morally gag yourself.

And afterwards you even have the chuzpe to kill everybody's nerves by criticising what you have voted for.

You lying, hypocritical idiot!

[Skybird]

Click on "I already support" to bypass paywall for free.

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Of course, you can believe that this is all just the lack of craftsmanship on the part of people who would hardly be able to earn a living in the private sector outside of politics. Admittedly, this thought can certainly come to mind when you look at Annalena Baerbock, Claudia Roth, Ricarda Lang, Emilia Fester, Janosch Dahmen and many others.

More unpleasant, but also much more plausible, is the idea that this is not an accident, but intentional.

The Greens don't just have dimwitted leaders, but also intelligent puppet masters in the ranks behind them. Patrick Graichen is one of them, as are Michael Kellner and Franziska Brantner. And yes, Robert Habeck too.

Not everyone makes mistakes all the time.

What the more intelligent Greens are doing has a goal. It is called “degrowth”: it is about reducing consumption and production – and thus also the gross domestic product (GDP), i.e. the economic output of the country. On a website of the “growth-critical movement” it is described that this is about nothing less than a revolutionary transformation of our way of life:

“This requires a fundamental change in our living environment and a comprehensive cultural change.”

They are working on this with, one might say, persistent malice. Because they are clever, they do not talk about it openly. Instead, others occasionally say what it is about. For example, Sylvia Kotting-Uhl: As a Green member of the Bundestag in 2021, she described with commendable openness the new society that she and her ideological colleagues envision. Electricity will then simply no longer be available at all times, but only when the wind blows and the sun shines - otherwise there will be a blackout. The refrigerator will only run at lunchtime, and industry will simply have to cease production from November to March.

Ulrike Herrmann describes everything even more clearly. The business editor of the "taz" has honestly called her book "The End of Capitalism" . The title is a huge hit in the green milieu. Herrmann believes it is crucial to stop growth and drastically reduce the gross domestic product. The 60-year-old green pioneer also speaks openly about what Habeck & Co. are ashamed to keep quiet about for political reasons: renewable energies and raw materials are never enough to keep an industrial nation running and achieve "green growth". So she logically advocates giving up Germany as an industrial nation. As a way out of capitalism, she suggests the model of the British war economy in the Second World War.

If you take this social model as a blueprint, then green economic policy suddenly makes sense.

"Germany as a business location and above all Germany's industrial core is under pressure, under the pressure of change." Robert Habeck said this recently at an industry conference. What he did not say: change will not fall from the sky. The change is politically desired, even if it is economically ruinous. It is about nothing other than the radical restructuring of the Federal Republic, away from an industrial nation and towards something else.

The Greens have been quite successful on this path to “degrowth”. With the kind help of the SPD, the FDP and the Union, they have turned a very competitive economy into one with no chance of success. And all this in a breathtakingly short time.

Didn't I say this since many years about the Greens? The destruction done by the Geens is neither accident, nor incompetence. It is intention, following a deliberate plan of destruction. And the CDU/CSU, the SPD, the FDP all serve as accomplices for tactical short termed interests.

And dont be mistaken. In other countries the Greens want to do the same. Even the EU wants to do the same.

Germany is lost, it is in free fall. But you all in other countries: wake up, dont follow our example, dont repeat out mistake of tolerating those that aim at destroying us. Your own equivalent destructive situations in your own countries are already dangerously advanced, too, though not as much as in Germany. Leave us alone, let us fall, stay away, do not allow yourself to be drawn into Germany's downward spiral. Learn by our example - dont repeat what we have done.

You see, it is THIS why I have become a prepper. Not so much some apocalyptic war fantasy. Germany's next, third apocalypse is committed by our own elected politicians. Intentionally. These I fear more than war or natural desaster. There is no bigger evil in the world than stupidity.

And Germans commit even stupidity in German perfection.

[mapuc]

Can understand that the German parliament, just voted against the chancellor, by votes of no confidence.

Which should mean that Germans has to pick a new Parliament in Feb. 2025.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Can understand that the German parliament, just voted against the chancellor, by votes of no confidence.

Which should mean that Germans has to pick a new Parliament in Feb. 2025.

Markus

Early elections can only be called under strict conditions according to the German constitution. That is why Scholz requested a vote of confidence, aiming to lose it. That has now happened.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Early elections can only be called under strict conditions according to the German constitution. That is why Scholz requested a vote of confidence, aiming to lose it. That has now happened.

So what are the probabilities of what could happen next?

[Dargo]

Since the end of the Second World War, Scholz is only the fourth chancellor to cast the vote of confidence. Usually, as now, it was done with the intention of provoking new elections. The Chancellor will now ask President Frank-Walter Steinmeier to dissolve parliament and call new elections. The ballot must be held within 60 days. Normally, the legislature would not end until autumn 2025. Political ploy to bring elections forward.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

So what are the probabilities of what could happen next?

You will see a coalition government most likely under the formal leadership by the former CDU which then must do a coalition with the Greens (whose Robert Habeck is the one destroying our economy, doing all that degrowth agenda, and who does not stop destroying our powerplants until today), or with the Reds from the SPD who will refuse to stop illegal migration, will not confront Russia more decisively, will not boost funding of the Bundeswerh, will not fight against overboarding regulation and bureaucracy, will demand excessive debts-rtaising, will demand more subventions, and will throw mone yout of the moehny like crazy. All these parties will not confront the EU, will not question the ECB, will not stop the house heating policy desaster that is typical in contempory German politics. In short: in principle nothing will change, it will be the same policies like until here, just with a minor changes in the list of acting names. The basic policy will be the same as before.

They will claim a lot of drama about cosmetic changes in wording. But that is just at the surface. In substance, nothing will change. The CDU will practice merciless opportunism to bring itself into the chancelor's office but it will only be allowed to do so if it agrees to the SPD'S or Green's agenda. That will be the price of these coalitions: that the CDU runs green-red-left-woke policies. Its a nightmare from which there is no awakening.

There will be elections. But there will not be a choice. Like the block parties in the GDR Volkskammer. They all were just proxies for and alibis of the SED.

BTW, today they announced that the number of yearly ins9ovencies hasd grown by 24% compoared to last year, and last year it has alraey grown by 22 or 23% comared to the yera before. Of these business crashes, 4 out of 5 are small private companies, the remaining 1 in 5 are major big coorporations and mass employers - and if you check just these, you see their number of insolvencies has grown by over 44% compared to the year before. The trend is expected to accelerate next year, and mass unemployment will start to drastically explode.

A the same time, the price for butter has risen by factor 2 to 2.5, and is expected to rise further. Currently in some supermarket chains you can buy only three packages per household. Because the number of cows - and thus: the amount of milk - is being cut down by driving farmers into bancruptcy or quitting. Its onyl a question of time until you will see the availability of beef declining substantially (its already now in limted availabilty, I must drive to the other side of the city to get what I want), and prices exploding. I expect the Greens to support Mercosur to destroy German lifestock farmers, and when that is done they will try to change the Mercosur treaty and ban the import of South American beef. That way they can enforce their vegan agenda while formally claiming they did not prohibit people to eat meat.

Be sick and die early for better climate - and greater Big Carbs and Big Pharma profits! That gives your life a meaning and a purpose.

It is a death spiral in which we are racing downwards.

[mapuc]

....but there will not be choices - I thought that there was choices like AfD.

Germany is the Engine of EU-A breakdown of this engine would mean the end of EU-Me thinks.

Markus

[Dargo]

Whereas the sacked Lindner insisted on cutting benefits and pensions, SPD leader Scholz and his Economy Minister Robert Habeck (Greens) preferred to make additional public investments to pull the economy out of the doldrums. To this end, they are even willing to abandon the Schuldenbremse (‘debt brake’), the constitutional requirement that Germany's national debt must remain manageable and that Germany does not borrow too much money. For Lindner and his FDP, an absolute no-go. Germany finds itself in a jam with its own principles because of that Schuldenbremse. It turns out to be very difficult to boost the economy when you are dealing with a finance minister who sticks very strictly to this. Germany has long been struggling with a ‘dawdling economy’, where investments by both the government and companies have been delayed for far too long. Now the need is so high that money has to be spent.

There is also overdue maintenance of infrastructure, with many obsolete roads, bridges and chaos on the railways. Furthermore, digitalisation still lags heavily behind that of other countries, threatening Germany's competitiveness, economists have long warned. This cabinet had very good plans, but could not agree on financing. Germany must invest itself out of the economic malaise, preferably with a special investment programme outside the official budget. Germany must accept that the German model of the last decade has come to an end. If they don't accept that, there will be no reforms. And if there are no reforms, then voters will go into extremes, choosing radical-left or radical-right. And we are already seeing that in Eastern Germany.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

....but there will not be choices - I thought that there was choices like AfD.

No, AfD has no chance to get into any form of government. Yes, they would be different. But they are best dewscribed as an a.) unpleasant and b.) unavailabe "alternative".



Thats the purpose of the so-called "Brandmauer" (firewall) here in Germany: a consensus of all othe rpoarties to not go into coalition with the AfD, which is, of course, first and foremost a shackle for the CDU, just not to let go of its red-green, woke politics. To force the CDU into left-leaning compliance even if it becomes the strongest party - THAT is the real purpose of this "firewall".



You can vote whatever you want, CDU, SPD, Green, FDP, AfD: the result will always be just a continuation of what you now have since Merkel: left, red-green, woke, EU-servile policy-making. You cannot escape as long as CDU/CSU do not will to try a coaltiion on n atiponal level with the AfD. And this ios ebign ruled out. So: no alternatives, no escape, no changes - not for the better, not for the worse.



Stagnation turning into petrification. When I say often "German is done" and "Forget Germany", I mean it serious, its not just a slogan.