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Old 12-05-24, 05:12 PM   #5506
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The last time St. Petersburg saw the army suppressing demonstrators ended well for the Tsar, like in Moscow under soviet rule. You do not understand Russian history with decayed regimes inevitably elevate leaders of stunning incompetence, corruption and imbecility. Even the elites, in the end, do not want to defend them. Ruined cities can certainly be rebuilt in Ukraine. Ukraine is the west and will get all the capital investments from the west, Russia will get the scraps from the poorer anti-west bloc. Economically, with its combined GDP of approximately $17.18 trillion, the EU far outstrips Russia's $1.78 trillion. The bloc also races ahead of Russia in the high-tech components of its economy, which is pivotal for future development. Europe and the rest of the west will heavily invest in a +15 trillion rich country. What is in the occupied area (20%) are the industries of the past, what Ukraine has in its non-occupied area (80%) is vital for our high-tech economy. Without Ukraine, there would not be a USSR (Russia) for long Ukraine has a huge potential we in the west see you clearly not.
What Ukraine has to do, is to speed up the development of their own ballistic missiles and start bombing targets in St. Petersburg and Moscow.

I'm sure the people and the elite from these two cities would not like it and they will blame Putin.

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Old 12-05-24, 05:28 PM   #5507
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What Ukraine has to do, is to speed up the development of their own ballistic missiles and start bombing targets in St. Petersburg and Moscow.

I'm sure the people and the elite from these two cities would not like it and they will blame Putin.

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They announced yesterday that the production of missiles will next year target to grow.
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Old 12-05-24, 05:30 PM   #5508
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In 2022, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the subsequent protracted war deeply deteriorated business climate. Insecurity, political and economic uncertainty, supply chain disruptions and infrastructure destruction lead to capital outflows. Most investments are made in manufacturing (23.3%), wholesale and retail trade; repair of vehicles and motorcycles (16.3%), mining and quarrying (11.5%), financial and insurance activities (7.6%), and real estate activities (7.3%). The main investors in Ukraine are Cyprus (33.1%), the Netherlands (19.5%), Switzerland (5.1%), Germany (5%), and the UK (4.8% - National Bank of Ukraine, 2022). The EU as a whole accounts for 74.4% of the total stock. In Q1 2023, Ukraine attracted USD 1.1 billion in FDI, comprising USD 128 million in capital, USD 1.1 billion in reinvested funds, and a debt component of USD -64 million. As of March 31, 2023, the cumulative direct investment in Ukraine reached a total of USD 53 billion, as reported by the Ukraine Invest agency.

Despite the war, the government has launched a drive to attract foreign investment of up to USD 400 billion in various sectors including technology, the agro-industry, clean energy, defence, metallurgy and natural resources. Furthermore, the reconstruction efforts in Ukraine are expected to draw investments totalling hundreds of billions of dollars from governments, international financial institutions, and the private sector. In addition to political instability, investors pointed out before the war that the underlying inefficiency and corruption in the justice system were among the main obstacles to investment. Other serious impediments are the complexity of laws and regulations, poor compliance with contracts and poor governance. However, the country has a large internal market, proven agricultural potential, energy and mineral resources and a strategic geographic location, making it a transit hub and a gateway to Europe and Eurasia. Before the war, progress had been made in terms of obtaining building permits, connection to electricity, protection of minority investors and cross-border trade. Ukraine has also simplified and reduced the costs of the registration procedure for representative offices of foreign business entities. Overall, the war significantly worsened the business climate: challenges such as Russia's deliberate destruction of Ukrainian civilian infrastructure, the occupation of a significant portion of the territory, disruption of the workforce resulting from the invasion, the presence of unexploded ordnance, and other ecological consequences of the war hinder both new and existing investors. It is worth noting that while these challenges exist, the majority of Ukraine's regions are not directly on the frontlines. Ukraine ranks 55th among the 132 economies on the Global Innovation Index 2023 and was not ranked in the 2023 Index of Economic Freedom due to Russia’s ongoing invasion.
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Old 12-05-24, 05:56 PM   #5509
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They announced yesterday that the production of missiles will next year target to grow.
Good-With their own developed ballistic missiles they don't have to ask the West for hitting targets in Russia, like St. Petersburg and Moscow.

Looking forward to it, so the good people in these cities can feel the war close-up

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Is the Russian economy supposedly on the verge of collapse? Doubts are justified.

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Poland increases defence spending to 4.7% of GDP in 2025

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Poland's defense budget in 2025 will amount to $46 billion, which will correspond to 4.7% of the country's GDP.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to Interfax-Ukraine.

The press service of the Ministry of National Defense of Poland reported on Friday.

"The budget for 2025 includes a record amount of 124.3 billion zlotys ($30.6 billion in equivalent - ed.) for national defense. Together with the expenditures of the Armed Forces Support Fund, national defense spending next year will reach 186.6 billion zlotys ($46 billion in equivalent)," the press service of the Polish Ministry of National Defense said.

"This means that in 2025, spending on the Polish army will amount to 4.7% of GDP, while this year it is 4.2% of GDP," the Polish Defense Ministry emphasized. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3523807
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Is the Russian economy supposedly on the verge of collapse? Doubts are justified.

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I know this-To fight high inflation raise the interest rate. This is all I know about state economy.

Time will tell whether Russian economy is in a bad shape or not.

I'm also thinking on prices who keeps on going up due to the high inflation.

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Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons. Now it's asking why

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If I read this I see the central bank not able to lower inflation even when they increase key interest rate to as high as 23% the economy will not cool down because there is some joker pumping huge amount of money into the economy that will only overheat the economy. This will raise inflation, salary, food price, ... price, you name it price. Russia's economy is looping towards hell, the basic economical signs are clear to see.
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Old 12-06-24, 01:41 PM   #5518
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First this could be a spoof to make Ukraine and the west think that things will get easier. Nothing that comes out of Russia is solid information untweaked by the FSB and Putin's yes-men, most probably not even when it comes from Medusa.

And it it is correct then it's easy for Ras-Putin: Just begin to recruit youngsters from St. Petersburg and Moscow
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Putin's treasury is quietly emptying, is Russia ready to negotiate?

Former general Keith Kellogg. Who, according to a plan he presented to Trump in April, would use some levers. If Putin does not want to negotiate, Ukraine should join NATO. If Zelenskyy does not want talks, he will also get no more US weapons. Kellogg's roadmap is not the only one. Another plan circulating within the Republican Party, according to The Wall Street Journal, is to force a ceasefire and actually stuff Ukraine with US weaponry so that it can better defend itself, NATO membership not immediately necessary. Foreign soldiers would have to keep the two armies apart. But the Republicans don't want them to be US soldiers. Germany did declare this week that it would take part in such a mission. Earlier, the British and French did the same. Putin may not want to talk now, but his coffers are quietly emptying. It is predicted everywhere that Russia can sustain the war for another year at most. Therefore, it is becoming increasingly likely that we will have negotiations sometime next year.
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First this could be a spoof to make Ukraine and the west think that things will get easier. Nothing that comes out of Russia is solid information untweaked by the FSB and Putin's yes-men, most probably not even when it comes from Medusa.

And it it is correct then it's easy for Ras-Putin: Just begin to recruit youngsters from St. Petersburg and Moscow
Every time "they" say "now Putin will mobilize St. Petersburg and Moscow" if Putin wants it he can do it or done after his reelection for life, do not think he dares like I said before Russia is St. Petersburg and Moscow if you mobilize there you destroy your labor force what already has a shortage in the millions for years same dilemma Ukraine has.
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