US Politics Thread 2021-24 - Page 696

Catfish · 11-05-24, 04:44 PM

^ Then stop your f'n hegemony and set the "foreigners" free you do not care about anyway. Problem is the US have 287 bases in Germany, so we are still occupied. Time for a change. Maybe if Trump cancels the NATO there may be some

u crank · 11-05-24, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Quote from an american friend:
"The world is full of crazies. And tomorrow we will know whether Americans want to draw level with the Putins, Kims, you name it of this world. Hard to watch all this being sober."
Good advice. Popcorn and beer is ready, so let it come

Yea I plan on having a few. What a show.

August · 11-05-24, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

^ Then stop your f'n hegemony and set the "foreigners" free you do not care about anyway. Problem is the US have 287 bases in Germany, so we are still occupied. Time for a change. Maybe if Trump cancels the NATO there may be some

Hmm, under our "occupation" you've enjoyed the longest period of peace and prosperity that your bloody little corner of Europe has ever known since the dawn of recorded history. But i'm totally down with with you on closing our bases and getting our troops out of Germany. They'd be better positioned east, in Poland, Norway, the Baltics etc, closer to NATOs front lines.

Catfish · 11-05-24, 07:17 PM

Let's say if this happens after a Trump victory I am all for it. Good riddance.

August · 11-05-24, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Let's say if this happens after a Trump victory I am all for it. Good riddance.

Just like the NATO dues your country never pays eh?

August · 11-06-24, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Because Trump and MAGA live in a bubble that claims the only way they can lose is if there's cheating. Trump can't accept he is a loser ever and won't this time either when women tell him go back to the hole you climbed out of.

Skybird · 11-06-24, 02:04 AM

So it looks as if eight decades after the seize firing, Berlin has finally been defeated completely.

Shadowblade · 11-06-24, 03:55 AM

I was just checking news this morning
and saw that Trump survived elections and won

(I had to go sleep soon because of my work and couldnt wait for results)

Skybird · 11-06-24, 04:54 AM

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No matter the results, I already now offer my condolences.

I stand by my word. Happy condolences.

Surprised I am not, I absolutely thought it to be possible, but I am surprised by how clear it seems to have been.

The light on German streets is like after a fresh blanket of snow. This is because all the faces have become dazzlingly pale.

Exocet25fr · 11-06-24, 04:57 AM

CHAMPAGNE.....!

Catfish · 11-06-24, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Just like the NATO dues your country never pays eh?

We paid, but not enough. But don't you worry, Nato is toast now.

AVGWarhawk · 11-06-24, 06:17 AM

Game over.

Shadowblade · 11-06-24, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

We paid, but not enough. But don't you worry, Nato is toast now.

well, I thought that Trump just wants from other NATO members pay their agreed part
which sounds fair

Catfish · 11-06-24, 06:54 AM

Trump has for years inaccurately described how NATO funding works. NATO has a target that each member country spends a minimum of 2% of gross domestic product on defense, and most countries are not meeting that target. But the figure is a guideline and not a binding contract, nor does it create “bills”; member countries haven’t been failing to pay their share of NATO’s common budget to run the organization.

"Trump says he would encourage Russia to ‘do whatever the hell they want’ to any NATO country that doesn’t pay enough"
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/10/p...ato/index.html

But then "With rising U.S. debt, flagging military recruiting, and a defense industrial base that can't keep up with the challenge from both Russia and China", where is the alternative?
Even Kamala Harris would most probably have stopped support for Ukraine.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...-term-00164517

During the campaign, Trump made it clear that he opposes arming Ukraine and considers Kyiv at least partially responsible for Russia's invasion.
When I win the elections "I will end the war in one day", he said. In this situation it will be a win for Russia – which will come back stronger in a decade for the baltic states and Poland.

"The right response for Europe is not to cry publicly, but to take a deep breath and return with a wise plan for rebalancing in NATO to save it" Jakub Janda, director of the European Values Center for Security Policy in Prague, said Wednesday.

And our glorious german chancellors, from Merkel to Scholz, did and do nothing defense-wise. God knows where all this money went, but as Scholz said "I cannot remember." Funny how the west and the EU criticizes Ukraine for corruption when it's the same here.

Moonlight · 11-06-24, 07:22 AM

If they can keep "The Donald" off of Twitter he might be a lot better President than he was the last time.

11-05-24, 04:44 PM	#10426
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,817 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ Then stop your f'n hegemony and set the "foreigners" free you do not care about anyway. Problem is the US have 287 bases in Germany, so we are still occupied. Time for a change. Maybe if Trump cancels the NATO there may be some __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

11-05-24, 07:17 PM	#10429
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,817 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Let's say if this happens after a Trump victory I am all for it. Good riddance. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

11-06-24, 02:04 AM	#10432
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,742 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	So it looks as if eight decades after the seize firing, Berlin has finally been defeated completely. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-06-24, 03:55 AM	#10433
Shadowblade Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 757 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I was just checking news this morning and saw that Trump survived elections and won (I had to go sleep soon because of my work and couldnt wait for results) __________________ Kapitänleutnant Vlad von Carstein - U-Flotilla Saltzwedel - U-123, Type IXB SH3 GWX 3.0

11-06-24, 04:57 AM	#10435
Exocet25fr Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Paris/France Posts: 1,135 Downloads: 255 Uploads: 0	CHAMPAGNE.....! __________________ \"Le Triomphant\" listens you !

11-06-24, 06:17 AM	#10437
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,300 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Game over. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

11-06-24, 06:54 AM	#10439
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,817 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Trump has for years inaccurately described how NATO funding works. NATO has a target that each member country spends a minimum of 2% of gross domestic product on defense, and most countries are not meeting that target. But the figure is a guideline and not a binding contract, nor does it create “bills”; member countries haven’t been failing to pay their share of NATO’s common budget to run the organization. "Trump says he would encourage Russia to ‘do whatever the hell they want’ to any NATO country that doesn’t pay enough" https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/10/p...ato/index.html But then "With rising U.S. debt, flagging military recruiting, and a defense industrial base that can't keep up with the challenge from both Russia and China", where is the alternative? Even Kamala Harris would most probably have stopped support for Ukraine. https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...-term-00164517 During the campaign, Trump made it clear that he opposes arming Ukraine and considers Kyiv at least partially responsible for Russia's invasion. When I win the elections "I will end the war in one day", he said. In this situation it will be a win for Russia – which will come back stronger in a decade for the baltic states and Poland. "The right response for Europe is not to cry publicly, but to take a deep breath and return with a wise plan for rebalancing in NATO to save it" Jakub Janda, director of the European Values Center for Security Policy in Prague, said Wednesday. And our glorious german chancellors, from Merkel to Scholz, did and do nothing defense-wise. God knows where all this money went, but as Scholz said "I cannot remember." Funny how the west and the EU criticizes Ukraine for corruption when it's the same here. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 11-06-24 at 07:11 AM.*

11-06-24, 07:22 AM	#10440
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,532 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	If they can keep "The Donald" off of Twitter he might be a lot better President than he was the last time. __________________