US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by vienna

That is indeed true: however, it is also true that the existing election laws and processes have been more than able to detect and stop those who seek to 'game' the system; one thing little noted about all those who bring up supposed cases of "massive voter fraud" by citing singular, isolated examples of voting irregularities and attempted fraud is that their "proof" exemplars exist because the flaws were detected and stopped by the checks and safeguards already in existence; when the news reports some sort of situation like, say, illegal registrations, the news got their info from the voting officials who are reporting on such situations as part of their normal course of duties; illegally registering doesn't mean those individuals actually got the opportunity to vote because they were caught and removed from the process; likewise with the news about dead people on the election rolls or other such things; in all those cases, there really isn't a vote cast because the system really does its best to weed out the frauds; is it 100% perfect? No, nothing as massive as an election is absolutely perfect; but the fact that in cases cited about voter fraud, the overwhelming fact is that the number of frauds in almost nil when you consider millions of votes are cast and only a handful of frauds are recorded; now, if someone has real, verifiable proof of an actual vote result being over turned by massive voter fraud, or even, the existence of massive voter fraud, please, do come forward and enlighten us poor, bedarkened souls...


Wait, what's that you just said? "Hunter Biden...?"...




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How, will we know all this ****,we are just peoples who get up in the morning and work way past the news cycle.

[Otto Harkaman]

The REAL threat to democracy? Read Kamala's plot to change America forever, writes DAN MCLAUGHLIN

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...CLAUGHLIN.html

The article by Dan McLaughlin argues that Kamala Harris's stance on Supreme Court reform could present a challenge to traditional democratic principles. Harris has shown openness to expanding the Supreme Court or implementing term limits, ideas that are popular among some progressive groups but contentious within broader circles.

Democrats have been institutionally bad for democracy. And the woman they anointed leader of their party this summer – despite her not winning a single presidential primary vote – is among the worst of them.

[mapuc]

In the news here:

- "The Democrats are frustrated over Biden's comparing Trump's supporters as trash. Harris have on several occasion tried to withdraw Biden's statement."

Wonder if they(The Democrats) have lost the election with this condescending statement from Biden ?

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

In the news here:

- "The Democrats are frustrated over Biden's comparing Trump's supporters as trash. Harris have on several occasion tried to withdraw Biden's statement."

Wonder if they(The Democrats) have lost the election with this condescending statement from Biden ?

Markus

Could very well be, we had a comparable situation at last elections in Germany, the CDU candidate laughed about a joke (not even directly connected to the event he was at, if I recall it correctly), media caught him laughing at apparenlty a very inappropriate moment, and the rest is history: three years of industry-killing trash-talking and Scholzian in-the-bubble-babbling.



Germans are best advised to have no humour. So don't laugh, Germans. You see what you got by that.

[Jimbuna]

Swing states fear potential violence if Trump loses, polls

According to the poll by The Washington Post and the Schar School, if Donald Trump loses the US presidential election, residents of swing states fear possible acts of violence by his supporters.

The respondents included over 5,000 voters from seven swing states: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

According to the survey results, 57% of voters are very or somewhat concerned that Trump’s supporters may resort to violence if he loses the election. Meanwhile, 31% believe that Kamala Harris's supporters may resort to violence.

Additionally, 66% are unsure whether Trump would accept a loss, while 69% are confident that Harris would accept a loss if she loses.

The poll shows that 45% think Trump would rule the country as a dictator, while 85% of Harris supporters are convinced of this.

It’s worth noting that swing states are those where the level of support for presidential candidates from the Republican and Democratic parties is roughly equal before the election.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...deb4d249&ei=66

[em2nought]

It's us garbage voters who are dangerous, not their mostly peaceful types. LMAO

[Jimbuna]

Elon Musk doesn't show at Philadelphia hearing over super PAC's $1 million lottery for voters

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia...y-voting-2024/

[Buddahaid]

When Trump loses, he will never admit it and it will get ugly. He will claim he wins again on Tuesday before the results are certified and then claim it's all voter fraud when the count is finished. His base will believe him just like the Japanese believed they were winning the war until Tokyo was firebombed because they were never told the reality until it burned them down.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

When Trump loses, he will never admit it and it will get ugly.

Last time he won it got ugly so there is that.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

When Trump loses, he will never admit it and it will get ugly. He will claim he wins again on Tuesday before the results are certified and then claim it's all voter fraud when the count is finished.

That is also my belief.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

When Trump loses, he will never admit it and it will get ugly. He will claim he wins again on Tuesday before the results are certified and then claim it's all voter fraud when the count is finished. His base will believe him just like the Japanese believed they were winning the war until Tokyo was firebombed because they were never told the reality until it burned them down.

If he wins !? Life will go on peacefully in your country I presume.

Jim posted an article on this page title 'Swing states fear potential violence if Trump loses, polls'

What I wonder is:
Will they acknowledge a defeat, the Dem supporters ?

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

When Trump loses, he will never admit it and it will get ugly. He will claim he wins again on Tuesday before the results are certified and then claim it's all voter fraud when the count is finished. His base will believe him just like the Japanese believed they were winning the war until Tokyo was firebombed because they were never told the reality until it burned them down.

Assuming Trump loses. Understand Harris no where remotely has this in the bag. You may want to worry more about the "garbage" supporters if he loses.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Elon Musk doesn't show at Philadelphia hearing over super PAC's $1 million lottery for voters

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia...y-voting-2024/

Because there is no reason too.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mapuc

In the news here:

- "The Democrats are frustrated over Biden's comparing Trump's supporters as trash. Harris have on several occasion tried to withdraw Biden's statement."

Wonder if they(The Democrats) have lost the election with this condescending statement from Biden ?

Markus

As you see, the democrats are no better. Biden meant exactly what he said. The talking heads trying to pretend it was not said. Yet, get offended by a roast comedian that well, ROASTS whoever and whatever because that is what he does for a living. There was more to the comedians roast then stating PR is a island of garbage. But CNN will not show those clips.

IMO, Biden is a hateful person and he has demonstrated that numerous times.

[mapuc]

I've been looking in my crystal ball and I see two outcome on Tuesday 5th Nov. In some vision Harris win with a short margine and in others Trump win with a landslide.

Markus