Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Dargo]

The Russian government's sudden ban on the Discord app is being criticised as disastrous by Russian milbloggers, due to its impact on the Russian military's battlefield command and control. "Everyone [is] back to the level of March 2022," one says. Videos, published by Russian military units, show them using the Discord instant messaging and VoIP platform to coordinate drone and artillery strikes. The abrupt decision by Russian regulator Roskomnadzor to ban Discord has blocked this for many units. Milblogger 'Troika' complaints about the impact:

At the control centres of dozens of compounds, broadcasts from drones operating through closed Discord rooms have dropped. Thus setting everyone back to the level of March 2022. Even the Ukrainians and America couldn't do that.

'ZHIVOV Z' says sarcastically that Ukraine should award Roskomnadzor "with a second star of the Hero of Ukraine. The first one was already awarded from Kyiv for anonymising Russian bloggers. With such friends, we do not need enemies. 'Soldier of Fortune' asks: "What's your beef with Discord? What did they do? Do you know that the army actively uses Discord? Let's all ****ing block it. Lately I've been more pissed off with Roskomnadzor than with the Ministry of Defence."

'Varyag' complains that "After Discord was blocked, all streams from birds to HQs dropped. Now instead of completing combat tasks, warriors will be figuring out how to get it all up. To one degree or another, this will affect the results." ‘Thank you’ to all those faggots who make the decisions to block." 'Dead Heads' writes: "It seems that our geniuses have seriously decided to block the operation of the service that the military uses to adjust artillery." "Well, now get ready for the time between detecting a target and hitting it to drop again, thanks to which fewer crested ones will die. And if the survivability of pigs increases, then more of ours will die. He wonders whether Roskomnadzor are "either degenerates or traitors. And it's not even clear which is worse."

Lina Bulatnikova admits that "it is extremely stupid to transmit all frontline intelligence information live through Western Discord servers, which Western partners view in real time." "On the other hand, in three years of war we have not given birth to an alternative, so the failure of Discord now threatens great, to put it mildly, inconveniences." 'Bomber Harris DID NOTHING WRONG' angrily calls for "the bureaucratic creatures responsible for this decision [to] themselves go to the front lines to organise broadcast networks for UAVs, cameras and other 99+ things that are shoved through Discord onto PCs and PPUs."

Roman Alekhine says "civilian officials damaged the front, which most likely increased the losses among our soldiers and equipment, everyone began to explain this to them, but then it's the end of the working day, and it's time to go home, and no instructions were received." "And to hell with the front, to hell with the losses, with the fact that we don't have enough people at the front, as well as with the constant reminders from the President about the importance of victory for Russia. "The end of the working day, no one gave instructions, you can forget about it.

And again I remember the question of the officers, to which the answer again became unclear: do they really want to win there? "If they do, then the speed of reaction to requests concerning the front should be different during the war. Perhaps tomorrow they will tell us that Discord is "leaky" and the enemy can view broadcasts from drones even in closed channels. "But even in this case, before killing this application, it was necessary to create a replacement and warn the commanders about the plans, so as not to simply break the work at the front in an instant, which will definitely increase the losses while they are looking for a replacement.

"This is called seeing a little further than your nose or one step ahead, and the ability to do this, just shows whether the manager is competent or not. If this is not a planned action to weaken our fighters and help our enemy (I don't want to believe it). 'Informant' says that "there are already reports of serious breakdowns in the work with UAVs in the SVO zone: there are no broadcasts from drones, chats do not work and there is no coordination. "Let us remind you that this application is actively used by our soldiers to exchange information in real time, now this is gone. "Roskomnadzor, thank you very much , without your initiative's life would be very boring, but now our military will have something to do – to bypass the consequences of another wise decision."

'Reverse Side of the Medal' looks on the bright side, however:

"Well, that's it, Discord - RIP...

It's becoming easier and easier to breathe without Western influence.

I ran across the meadows and hugged the birches." https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...608160318.html

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[Catfish]

Orban has to go, or Hungary should be thrown out of the EU. This Putin puppet should make Hungary a russian country so they all can live in peace and prosper lol.

On a sidenote, I wonder what the ripples of october 12th will be, and what this will do to Putin's war economy... Yuan anyone?

[Skybird]

[Westfälische Nachrichten] The Ukrainian government has firmly rejected an Italian media report that it is ready for a ceasefire with Russia along the current front line. “This is untrue,” said Dmytro Lytvyn, advisor and speechwriter to President Volodymyr Zelenskyi, according to a report by the Interfax-Ukraine agency.

Ukraine continues to adhere to the peace formula published in autumn 2022, which is based on the complete withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukrainian territory, he emphasized. “The Victory Plan, which is currently being presented to Great Britain, France, Italy and Germany, is an instrument that will drive the situation towards the implementation of the peace formula.”

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If it were true (I have no clue, but consider everything possible), it would illustrate how very desperate the Ukrainian situation now is.
Brace yourself. Winter is coming. It will collect rich harvest this time. Their eneryg grid is practically down, is destroyed to over 80%.
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Some days ago media reported the desertation of a famous Ukrainian volunteer who fought the Russians since 2014, condstantly. He did so in the open, in the public, under running cameras, so to speak, letting the public know that all soldiers have inner limits of what they can endure and bear and that there needs to be more rotation and recruiting justice for serving soldiers, a limitation of serving time. You can hardly accuse him of cowardice or treason - he volunteered and stayed for ten years, fighting these ten year all along, and now did what he did to force public and politlical focussing on a key issue that goes wrong.

The problem is - taken from a linked story I posted some days ago - that the average age of Ukrainain soldiers now is 41, meanign that those now fighting are the last generation off offsprings from the last Sovjet baby boomer generation. This in reverse means that they have only very few young men left who are young and not oldere than in their early twenties. And these young men are who are desperately needed for Ukraine to rebuild and reconstruct and repopulate the ciuntry after the war once has ended. That is the reason why Kyiv is so hesitent to completely crack down on them and recruit them by all force a state would be able to impose. Its a demographic dilemma which has no moral and just solution (thats what makes it a dilemma).

[Catfish]

^ well the average age of russian soldiers is now at 52+ as i read. Ammunition in Russia is getting scarce, just today another russian depot exploded.

And as I said before China will now stop the yuan exchange against russian rubel, which will make it difficult for Putin and his war of aggression to get his hands on weapons and ammunition abroad.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Catfish

And as I said before China will now stop the yuan exchange against russian rubel, which will make it difficult for Putin and his war of aggression to get his hands on weapons and ammunition abroad.

I certainly hope so.

[mapuc]

The one who ask for ceasefire use to be the one who are in trouble on the battlefield.

Thinking it's only Ukraine who have problems on the battlefield-Haven't followed the situation closely enough. 'cause even Russia have problems despite their momentum.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

[Dargo]

Ukraine will receive its Dassault Aviation Mirage 2000-5F in 2025.

The countdown has begun. This Tuesday, October 8, 2024, the Minister of the Armed Forces, Mr. Sébastien Lecornu, officially announced that France will deliver its Dassault Aviation Mirage 2000-5F fighters to Ukraine at the beginning of next year . They are currently in the industrial phase in order to gain versatility with respect to the standards of the Air and Space Force . The exact number of aircraft that will be delivered is still unknown.

It was from Air Base 113 in Saint Dizier, on the occasion of the 60th anniversary of the first nuclear mission of the Strategic Air Forces, that Sébastien Lecornu made his announcement to the press. There is no doubt that it was not very well received in the Kremlin. Dictator Vladimir Putin is not very happy with European countries supplying fighter planes to Ukraine. This somewhat hinders the lightning war he launched two and a half years ago against this country and its sovereignty.

According to our various sources, France will supply between twelve and twenty Mirage 2000-5Fs to war-torn Ukraine next year. The Minister of the Armed Forces has targeted the first quarter, i.e. between January 1 and March 30, 2025. By then, the French teams must ensure the operational transformation of pilots and the advanced training of mechanics and gunsmiths. It is currently unknown whether one or more Mirage 2000B two-seaters will be integrated into the batch of aircraft supplied. On the other hand, what is certain is that from pure fighters specialized in air policing within the Air and Space Force, the Mirage 2000-5Fs will become multi-role combat aircraft in the ranks of the Povitryani Syly Zbroynykh Syl Ukrayiny . The aircraft will also be repainted in Ukrainian colors. One of the main changes will be the ability to carry and fire the SCALP-EG cruise missile, which is already in service with the PS ZSU ... https://www-avionslegendaires-net.tr..._x_tr_pto=wapp

[Dargo]

€10.4 billion was allocated to aid Ukraine in the budget of the Netherlands. The amount of aid provided at the moment, taking into account the F-16, Patriot and other weapons and equipment, is ~€4 billion - Minister of Defence of the Netherlands Brekelmans. In his tweet, the Minister of Defence reported that the Netherlands is helping with all its might and is trying to do it as quickly as possible.

@DefensieMin https://x.com/DefensieMin/status/1844710217818263792
I see reports going around as if €1 billion would be cut from aid to Ukraine. That is NOT correct. Not one euro less is going to Ukraine. A total of €10.4bn has been released for military aid. Of that, almost €4 billion has been delivered, there is still >€6 billion space. On top of that, money is also available for other forms of support (such as for energy infrastructure). Instead, I am committed to ensuring that everything is delivered ASAP (which is why some contracts are in 2024 instead of 2025, for example).

Ukraine is fighting an intense battle and cannot wait. As the Netherlands, we support Ukraine unabated. We are among the countries that provide relatively large amounts of support. The amount fluctuates every year. This is not surprising. Some contracts or deliveries just fall into one year or the other in accounting terms.

In almost every conversation I notice gratitude for this. Again recently in Kharkiv and Kyiv. And each time I then express 5 times as much gratitude. For the enormous courage and sacrifices of Ukrainians. They are fighting not only for their freedom and security, but also that of Europe.

[mapuc]

One of you have on some occasion said it's not in NATO/EU's interest letting Ukraine win, but to weaken Russia military.

Now I wonder-All these billions who have been posted in the war-Don't you think the giver want something back for these money ?

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

One of you have on some occasion said it's not in NATO/EU's interest letting Ukraine win, but to weaken Russia military.

Now I wonder-All these billions who have been posted in the war-Don't you think the giver want something back for these money ?

Markus

Not for the Netherlands, this is our revenge for MH17 countries like Poland, Finland, UK, Scandinavia, Italy and the majority of Eastern Europe do not want that Ukraine loses. And for the money we are already earning billions because of this war, every aid is an investment in their own defence economy. When this is over, Ukraine will become stronger than Russia. The Netherlands like most other countries have signed several defence contracts, I would not worry about the money.

[mapuc]

Never saw it from that point-of-view.

Those F-16 Ukraine have got so far, seems to be a good thing.



Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

One of you have on some occasion said it's not in NATO/EU's interest letting Ukraine win, but to weaken Russia military.

Now I wonder-All these billions who have been posted in the war-Don't you think the giver want something back for these money ?

Markus

Depends on what givers consider to be a good return for their money. Wearing out the Russian military and killing Russian men who then cannot make babies, cannot return into factories, and cannot stay in the military, maybe qualifies for that, in their understanding. And those who good physically wounded and psychologically brutalized may prove suicidal for the social structure of Russian society, corroding it from within.