Hamas launches war on Israel

Skybird · 10-04-24, 03:59 PM

I wonder whether ther eis more behind the Israeli actions. I do not have the impresison they just react to the unfolding of the events on a day-to-day basis, but that they follow an established, well-orchestrated long-time plan towards an end goal that existed already since long time before. The quesiton is what that goal is. I read that I am not the only one speculating on this, and that some correspondents and observers also have this impression.

Israel wants the Iranian nuclear weapon program being taken out. Said plan, if it exists, maybe is a plan for preplanned escalatory steps that are made appearing as reactions to the enemy beign pressed himself into escalating (Iranian reactions), thsi way cretaing the case for finally going after the Iranian nuclear program no matter what the Americans wish.

Iran has started already years ago to move key components of that program deeper an deeper into the mountain to escape even the strongest bunker busting and MOAB-sort of bombs. I do not know of course, but I would not principally rule out that if Israel must go that way all alone, it will use nuclear weapons on said mountain installations. I dont sday its certainb, I just say: dont rule that option out.

That Biden now voices that he would prefer Israel not even going after oil installations in Iran (obviously in a bid to not have gas prices soaring in the final election phase) shows quite something. I dont like how he handles this, I dont like how he handles ukraine. I did not like how he handled Afghanistan (I agreed on the pullout and still do, but the more time passed by since then the more I disagree with the chaotic terms and conditions).

However, I agree with both the Israeli ambition to root poutm Hamas and Hezbollah, and the desire to destroy the Iranian nuclear wepakns program. Washington and Eur0eo seem to be bitterly detemrined to see Iran finally gaining nuclar weapons - and only hiding form the public that they accepted it, instead posing as if they had tried all they can to talk the idea out of Iranian's heads.

If Isrtael succeeds in tunring Hezbollah into an imptent entitiy no logne rposjng a real threat to Israel, then i say is the time when the scenairo of Israle indeed wnatign to destroy the nculear progrma o f Iran miust be seripusly considered as a possible inbrtetion of theirs. Because Hezbollah's role why Iran send it to where it is is right this: to shield Iran from Israeli attacks on that program by threatening Israel directly. Israel is heavily commited to neutralising that capability of Hezbollah. 1 + 1 is how much?

10-04-24, 03:59 PM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,717 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I wonder whether ther eis more behind the Israeli actions. I do not have the impresison they just react to the unfolding of the events on a day-to-day basis, but that they follow an established, well-orchestrated long-time plan towards an end goal that existed already since long time before. The quesiton is what that goal is. I read that I am not the only one speculating on this, and that some correspondents and observers also have this impression. Israel wants the Iranian nuclear weapon program being taken out. Said plan, if it exists, maybe is a plan for preplanned escalatory steps that are made appearing as reactions to the enemy beign pressed himself into escalating (Iranian reactions), thsi way cretaing the case for finally going after the Iranian nuclear program no matter what the Americans wish. Iran has started already years ago to move key components of that program deeper an deeper into the mountain to escape even the strongest bunker busting and MOAB-sort of bombs. I do not know of course, but I would not principally rule out that if Israel must go that way all alone, it will use nuclear weapons on said mountain installations. I dont sday its certainb, I just say: dont rule that option out. That Biden now voices that he would prefer Israel not even going after oil installations in Iran (obviously in a bid to not have gas prices soaring in the final election phase) shows quite something. I dont like how he handles this, I dont like how he handles ukraine. I did not like how he handled Afghanistan (I agreed on the pullout and still do, but the more time passed by since then the more I disagree with the chaotic terms and conditions). However, I agree with both the Israeli ambition to root poutm Hamas and Hezbollah, and the desire to destroy the Iranian nuclear wepakns program. Washington and Eur0eo seem to be bitterly detemrined to see Iran finally gaining nuclar weapons - and only hiding form the public that they accepted it, instead posing as if they had tried all they can to talk the idea out of Iranian's heads. If Isrtael succeeds in tunring Hezbollah into an imptent entitiy no logne rposjng a real threat to Israel, then i say is the time when the scenairo of Israle indeed wnatign to destroy the nculear progrma o f Iran miust be seripusly considered as a possible inbrtetion of theirs. Because Hezbollah's role why Iran send it to where it is is right this: to shield Iran from Israeli attacks on that program by threatening Israel directly. Israel is heavily commited to neutralising that capability of Hezbollah. 1 + 1 is how much? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.