GER politics thread

[Skybird]

Elections in Brandenburg this weekend.

[Tagesspiegel] In the Sunday poll, the CDU/CSU extended their lead in the Allensbach survey to 35.5%. The AfD is the second strongest party with 17%, followed by the SPD with 16%. The Greens fall to ten percent, while the BSW is close behind with nine percent. The FDP (four percent) and the Left Party, on the other hand, would no longer be represented in the Bundestag.
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Means: CDU will "win", but end up in a coalition where it is forced to continue greenish-leftist policy making.


I can only ask every CDU voter: why do you vote CDU if with a cross for SPD or Greens you can have the original instead of the cheap copy?


Further:

[Tagesspiegel] According to a new survey, the model of a traffic light coalition at federal level has lost almost all support. In an Allensbach survey published by the “Frankfurter Allgemeine” (Thursday edition), only three percent of respondents were still convinced that a coalition of SPD, Greens and FDP would be good for the country. 29 percent named a CDU-led alliance with the SPD as their preferred coalition.
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25 percent said in the survey that they would like to see a single government with an absolute majority - they favored a CDU/CSU government by a wide margin.

54% of citizens expressed the wish for the CDU/CSU to be represented in a leading role in the next government. Only 29 percent said this about the current chancellor's party, the SPD.

In the Sunday poll, the CDU/CSU extended their lead in the Allensbach survey to 35.5%. The AfD is the second strongest party with 17%, followed by the SPD with 16%. The Greens fall to ten percent, while the BSW is close behind with nine percent. The FDP (four percent) and the Left Party, on the other hand, would no longer be represented in the Bundestag.

For the survey, the Allensbach Institute interviewed a total of 1017 people from August 29 to September 11. According to the institute, the survey is representative of the German population aged 16 and over. (AFP)
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3 Percent.


We have a temr here in Germany, "Brandmauer", it means firewall. It stems from left-leaning theoreticians and describes the need to isolate and exclude the AfD and its voters (mind you, 30% of the voters in recent two election) in parliaments and from responsibility and power. The intended effect is that the CDU gets doomed for the rest of all time to exclusively run leftist-green policies ion coaltiioons with SPD or Greeen who will demand high cost concessions by the CDU for their pariticpation in a coaltiion government. We have seen many examples for that in states level already. Worst exmaple is Berlin, by far the worst.


It will not get better anymore. It cannot get better. It simply is not poissible in this fractured party spectrum. Becasue I dont see how CDU will get absolute majority anywhere. The sister party CSU in Bavaria used to have majorities in the - now already quite distant - past, but even them and even in Bavaria they cannot get it anymore.



Add to the political falling apart the demographic disaster and the decline of both quantity and quality (!) of the labour pool, the suicidal energy policy, the debt crisis, the seölf-detsruciton of the infrastructure, and the moralistic technocratic ideologization, and you know why I say Germany is done. Its dooomed, its a lost case. By the end of this century or so, even ethnically and culturally Germany will kostly have seized to exist.



In other words: "Germaness" goes extinct. Total victory of the left. Thats what they always wanted.

[Catfish]

After Putin's referendum in Saxony and Thuringia I wonder what happens in Brandenburg. I guess only two-stroke engines will be allowed in the three test areas

[Shadowblade]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Means: CDU will "win", but end up in a coalition where it is forced to continue greenish-leftist policy making.

my rule is: when you make coalitions with people who are harming my country then no vote for you.

Originally Posted by Skybird

By the end of this century or so, even ethnically and culturally Germany will kostly have seized to exist.

In other words: "Germaness" goes extinct. Total victory of the left. Thats what they always wanted.

it reminds me:
"If you take all homeless people from your town to your home, then you will be also homeless guy soon."

When you will let in Africa and Middle East into your country, then you will get combination of Africa & Middle East, not Germany.

[Skybird]

They'll be going crazy again in Munich from tomorrow...






FYI, a filled glass like that weighs 2.3 kg. The waitress is stemming a whopping ~30kg. All her shift long.


Prices for "eine Maß" (=1l) this year range from 13.50 to 15.50 €. Drink with devotion. :LOL:

[Shadowblade]

I remember when they had to add precautions against muslim ...err terrorist truck attacks for Octoberfest.
Now they need to add precautions against knife stabbing....


Indeed, a life in "multicultural" country is not boring.

[Skybird]

Hence the many beer.

[Shadowblade]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Hence the many beer.

sounds like a plan

[Skybird]

Projected results from the election in Brandenburg today.




FDP ~ 1%


Greens out, losing more than half of their votes from last time, dropping all evening long from 5 to 4.5 and now 4% and getting no two direct mandates (which according to exotic German laws would allow them to enter parliament with a full faction even if staying below 5%) .


SPD winning probably by a very narrow margin - but AfD probably getting a blocking minority.


CDU loses by a record, and if it enters a coalition of SPD (and maybe BSW) it will lose profile and reputation the same way it would when enabling a minority government of SPD and BSW alone by tolerating them - vote for CDU and get the Reds nevertheless. If their tolerance is even needed, that is.


By numbers, a coalition of SPD and BSW is possible. My dearest condolences.

FDP was ANNIHILATED in three elections in a line now. Its absolutely possible that they let the national government now collapse. Chances are I say 50:50. If they stay they must not even care to participate in next year's national elections - they would get buried and their grave forgotten on the same day.

German people is sick, done and over with the national traffic-light government.

When the FDP entered the national coalition government three years ago, I spit my dinner on the screen in laughter. They now pay the price. For their decision I mean - not for my dinner.

[mapuc]

It's interesting to see a party like BSW(Bündnis Sahra Wagenknecht) got so high a score. I seem to remember how you described her and her party.

Markus

[Skybird]

Brandenburg was part of the SED, she lives of the "she'S one of us" effect, and she lives of people's short memory. She sings the pro-Russian anti-Ukraine tune and serves to the arch-German desire for world peace from just meaning things well, and moral justice seen through red glasses. That both would be under Russian bajonetts she does not say, and people are too busy with their everyday needs, energy costs, and mass migration as if they would care. Germany is not really united, the trenches between West and East in fact beocme deeper and wider. You cannot simply reverse the economic effects and sociologica effects from half a century of system-depending different socialisation. There are significant differences in Wetsenr and Eastern mentality (in lack of a b etter word). Wagenknecht is a populist par excellence. Intelligent, but vain, and in the core of her self still Stalinist and very russophile (like many Eastgermans are, the vast majority in the East is pro-Russia, and the national population East plus West also is against Ukriane and pro Russia, in the West the dominance of the pro-Russians is just not that big like in the East).

And like Stalinism sees a revival in Russia since Putler came to power, we see a blossoming of GDR nostalghia in Eastgermany.

[Dargo]

In the East, many people feel extremely excluded. There is a lot of distrust of the established political parties, as well as of the media, science and the legal system. This has led to great resistance to the democratic system as a whole. Wagenknecht has jumped into a political vacuum that is overwhelmingly larger in the East than in the West of Germany. Die Linke has collapsed, and Wagenknecht is to some extent that party's replacement. But with a more conservative cultural base, more scepticism towards migration. Wagenknecht is a well-known figure, but also to some extent a media phenomenon. Her party has no roots in society. It also has only eighty or a hundred members, elected by her in a very Leninist party setup.

[mapuc]

Thank you Marc.

Looks like the German are going to the right and to the left.
Where will it end ? Will Germany be divided once again in the future ? Where AfD have the majority in east Germany and the left have majority in west Germany.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Thank you Marc.

Looks like the German are going to the right and to the left.
Where will it end ? Will Germany be divided once again in the future ? Where AfD have the majority in east Germany and the left have majority in west Germany.

Markus

Nationwide, the AfD can now count on a fifth of the vote, according to polls. The democratic centre is still expected to be able to retain national government power in next year's elections, but the growing extreme flanks are increasingly driving the established political order into a corner.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

In the East, many people feel extremely excluded. There is a lot of distrust of the established political parties, as well as of the media, science and the legal system. This has led to great resistance to the democratic system as a whole. Wagenknecht has jumped into a political vacuum that is overwhelmingly larger in the East than in the West. Die Linke has collapsed, and Wagenknecht is to some extent that party's replacement. But with a more conservative cultural base, more scepticism towards migration. Wagenknecht is a well-known figure, but also to some extent a media phenomenon. Her party has no roots in society. It also has only eighty or a hundred members, elected by her in a very Leninist party setup.

This was the reason why I found it interesting. Der partei was established in this year 2024 and going from zero to 13.4.

Markus

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by Dargo

But with a more conservative cultural base, more scepticism towards migration. Wagenknecht is a well-known figure, but also to some extent a media phenomenon.

That's an understatement. Wagenknecht is nothing but empty shells of words thrown around on different media.