US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Trump national security team watched in horror as China's Xi Jinping 'ate his lunch': book

Well, That is the past.Today Sir Starmer cuddled up with the Germans and together they said we stand with Ukraine to the end.My question is what is the end game.If NATO wants Nuclear war with Russia,Then why the hell are the politicians worried about the climate.
And really if it's war to the end ,USA,England,Canada,France,Germany. And all the sucker NATO countries.With no money from them,Tampons and helmets, only they sure as hell don't want to be targeted.
So we are left with the big 5...And RFK in America has said in 2022. NATO wanted war with Russia.I would say that,TRUMP has nothing to do with that.The Elite Politicians had that going, ya know Power is always hungry.

The horror is knowing that today the British people under Starmer will have to submit.To a new regime.I heard him say today it's my government! This guy with the rest of the elitist and the new world order.Damn sure will not have room for a Monarchy.Will it be like 1917? On November 7, 1917, a coup d'état went down in history as the October Revolution. Can a elitist group of individuals take over the UK. ?
The alarm bells are ringing.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by vienna

I would seriously suggest you engage brain before putting words down in writing...





Yeah, Trump received an invitation, however I really can't find any indication, other than the family that did invite him, that any of the other families were onboard with the idea; also, an invitation to attend is not an invitation to turn a respectful, somber occasion into a self serving campaign photo-op; the rules of the occasion and the rules of ANC were explicitly, and in writing, given to Trump's minions and they chose to ignore the actual laws and regulations in order to aggrandize their boss/ butt-buddy; nothing you have posted denies that Trump and his jackals are actually at fault...





Still clutching those pearls, Camille? You and I both know, if Harris, Walz, and/or Biden showed up you and your fellow clutchers would be howling about how they were desecrating the ceremony and the vets memories by turning the occasion into a crass, insincere campaign photo -op; you'd howl loud and long with puffed-up faux indignity about the whole thing; the difference here is that your boy is the main offender and some of us, who do care about giving the fallen a dignity beyond mere campaign politics, are actually offended that an over-vain slob who has made little secret for his disdain towards the military (remember, Trump was forced to admit in court to embezzling funds from a veterans charity and paid $2 million dollars to keep the case from going to criminal charges), who has insulted and denigrated soldiers who actually fought (and some who have died) in combat while he traipsed around on his bone spurs, and who has never shown any sincere feeling toward their sacrifices, would have the unmitigated gall to try and stand there' acting "presidential" and making himself the focus of attention rather than the fallen and their families...

Harris, Biden, Walz, and Biden didn't attend and that is probably for the better; the focus should be on those in the earth and those who they left behind...





Wow, talk about dense; the actual link to the ANC Rules & Regulations is actually in my previous post and I even went to the effort of posting a 'domestic' link to a story further expanding on the issue (I didn't use Fox News because, well, I do actually appreciate the truth and a news source that paid $787 million to settle a lawsuit after it was caught in blatant reportage lies); don't you ever actually ever read the posts you are responding to or do you just knee-jerk respond with whatever pap you find on your right wing 'news' sites?; or, maybe, you are of the belief you can bluster and bulldoze your way over anyone who dares to espouse a view you don't subscribe to; well, bulldozer, you are not an irresistible force, but I am an immovable object...

One other thing I have wanted to bring up: you have long made it a practice to belittle and demean arguments, and those who make them, particularly in regards to a particular member who has been the object of your unwarranted spite; this is further egregious given that, unlike you, he actually posts factual links to reputable sites, not tripe like Joe Rogan or other YT bottom feeders and he makes an effort to keep the discourse civil; honestly, I have a great appreciation and admiration for the patience and forbearance of Buddahaid...


In addition, your dismissal of 'foreign' news sources is real childish; the members from outside the US who share the viewpoint of their respective lands are actually far more informative and interesting than the dreck you tend to post; I have very often used non-US news sources to balance out my research into issues because very often what they say gives fresh eyes beyond the vanned news (from all sides) we get here in the US; quite often I have found out details that the media here in the US, for whatever reason, choose not to follow; all of those who are posting from the UK, Denmark, Oz, or anywhere else, keep posting; we could all use a dose of the new here...


Well, I'm done with my rant; to those, other than Rockstar, that I may have offended with my rant, I humbly apologize for steeping outside the lines; to the Mods, I accept any brigging that may come...



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EDIT: Actually, I should apologize to Rockstar; it isn't fair to engage in a battle of wits with some who is unarmed...



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Well you offended me, I think if you live west of the Rockies,You people live in a self contained bubble.Seperated from the rest of America.Am i right ? And the greatest rainbow university grads and the old power minds we have today in government.Want to Fu-K around and find out? If the Russian people are patriotic ?.And i think the Californians should experience the first bright flash of light.Ya see you have an open ocean to your west.And your children that we have came into contact with...Are the weird,They protest, After they run out of your money, they become homeless in what ever state they end up,Protesting in and the truth is after the city is burned. They can't get out, And when they do you are going to be a grandpa and a grandma when they get back home.To raise that child. And the story starts all over again.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

Well you offended me, I think if you live west of the Rockies,You people live in a self contained bubble.Seperated from the rest of America.Am i right ? And the greatest rainbow university grads and the old power minds we have today in government.Want to Fu-K around and find out? If the Russian people are patriotic ?.And i think the Californians should experience the first bright flash of light.Ya see you have an open ocean to your west.And your children that we have came into contact with...Are the weird,They protest, After they run out of your money, they become homeless in what ever state they end up,Protesting in and the truth is after the city is burned. They can't get out, And when they do you are going to be a grandpa and a grandma when they get back home.To raise that child. And the story starts all over again.

You're amusing when you attempt lucidity; might I suggest an appropriate increase (maybe decrease) in your dosage...



Amazingly, you are a bit more lucid than the Giant Cheeto, which actually is not much of an accomplishment...






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[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

Well, That is the past.Today Sir Starmer cuddled up with the Germans and together they said we stand with Ukraine to the end.My question is what is the end game.If NATO wants Nuclear war with Russia,Then why the hell are the politicians worried about the climate.
And really if it's war to the end ,USA,England,Canada,France,Germany. And all the sucker NATO countries.With no money from them,Tampons and helmets, only they sure as hell don't want to be targeted.
So we are left with the big 5...And RFK in America has said in 2022. NATO wanted war with Russia.I would say that,TRUMP has nothing to do with that.The Elite Politicians had that going, ya know Power is always hungry.

The horror is knowing that today the British people under Starmer will have to submit.To a new regime.I heard him say today it's my government! This guy with the rest of the elitist and the new world order.Damn sure will not have room for a Monarchy.Will it be like 1917? On November 7, 1917, a coup d'état went down in history as the October Revolution. Can a elitist group of individuals take over the UK. ?
The alarm bells are ringing.

And all that in just eight edits.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by vienna

I would seriously suggest you engage brain before putting words down in writing...





Yeah, Trump received an invitation, however I really can't find any indication, other than the family that did invite him, that any of the other families were onboard with the idea; also, an invitation to attend is not an invitation to turn a respectful, somber occasion into a self serving campaign photo-op; the rules of the occasion and the rules of ANC were explicitly, and in writing, given to Trump's minions and they chose to ignore the actual laws and regulations in order to aggrandize their boss/ butt-buddy; nothing you have posted denies that Trump and his jackals are actually at fault...





Still clutching those pearls, Camille? You and I both know, if Harris, Walz, and/or Biden showed up you and your fellow clutchers would be howling about how they were desecrating the ceremony and the vets memories by turning the occasion into a crass, insincere campaign photo -op; you'd howl loud and long with puffed-up faux indignity about the whole thing; the difference here is that your boy is the main offender and some of us, who do care about giving the fallen a dignity beyond mere campaign politics, are actually offended that an over-vain slob who has made little secret for his disdain towards the military (remember, Trump was forced to admit in court to embezzling funds from a veterans charity and paid $2 million dollars to keep the case from going to criminal charges), who has insulted and denigrated soldiers who actually fought (and some who have died) in combat while he traipsed around on his bone spurs, and who has never shown any sincere feeling toward their sacrifices, would have the unmitigated gall to try and stand there' acting "presidential" and making himself the focus of attention rather than the fallen and their families...

Harris, Biden, Walz, and Biden didn't attend and that is probably for the better; the focus should be on those in the earth and those who they left behind...





Wow, talk about dense; the actual link to the ANC Rules & Regulations is actually in my previous post and I even went to the effort of posting a 'domestic' link to a story further expanding on the issue (I didn't use Fox News because, well, I do actually appreciate the truth and a news source that paid $787 million to settle a lawsuit after it was caught in blatant reportage lies); don't you ever actually ever read the posts you are responding to or do you just knee-jerk respond with whatever pap you find on your right wing 'news' sites?; or, maybe, you are of the belief you can bluster and bulldoze your way over anyone who dares to espouse a view you don't subscribe to; well, bulldozer, you are not an irresistible force, but I am an immovable object...

One other thing I have wanted to bring up: you have long made it a practice to belittle and demean arguments, and those who make them, particularly in regards to a particular member who has been the object of your unwarranted spite; this is further egregious given that, unlike you, he actually posts factual links to reputable sites, not tripe like Joe Rogan or other YT bottom feeders and he makes an effort to keep the discourse civil; honestly, I have a great appreciation and admiration for the patience and forbearance of Buddahaid...


In addition, your dismissal of 'foreign' news sources is real childish; the members from outside the US who share the viewpoint of their respective lands are actually far more informative and interesting than the dreck you tend to post; I have very often used non-US news sources to balance out my research into issues because very often what they say gives fresh eyes beyond the vanned news (from all sides) we get here in the US; quite often I have found out details that the media here in the US, for whatever reason, choose not to follow; all of those who are posting from the UK, Denmark, Oz, or anywhere else, keep posting; we could all use a dose of the new here...


Well, I'm done with my rant; to those, other than Rockstar, that I may have offended with my rant, I humbly apologize for steeping outside the lines; to the Mods, I accept any brigging that may come...



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EDIT: Actually, I should apologize to Rockstar; it isn't fair to engage in a battle of wits with some who is unarmed...



<O>

Fair and balanced in my estimation.

[AVGWarhawk]

Dan Crenshaw,

"The Harris-Walz campaign keeps trying to sell us that Kamala has magically turned into a moderate. But take a hard look at who she keeps close—leftist radicals who were instrumental in pushing the Biden-Harris administration's unconstitutional student-loan forgiveness plan and progressive agenda.

Scratch beneath the veneer of artificial joy, hope, and laughter, and what you’ll find are the same radical policies that have driven America off course for almost 4 years."

[August]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Fair and balanced in my estimation.

Your estimations are flawed on many levels Mister Moderator.

[AVGWarhawk]

I find this strangely odd and bizarre. Looking at this picture all are smiling. The woman on the left is hand signaling like she is at a rock concert. It looks more like a party and good time. I guess some handle a memorial differently than others. I can't figure this lot out. To each their own. Perhaps this was after the ceremony. Great distraction to Zuckerberg and coming clean on censorship demanded by the Biden administration. Have a good day.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by vienna

I would seriously suggest you engage brain before putting words down in writing...





Yeah, Trump received an invitation, however I really can't find any indication, other than the family that did invite him, that any of the other families were onboard with the idea; also, an invitation to attend is not an invitation to turn a respectful, somber occasion into a self serving campaign photo-op; the rules of the occasion and the rules of ANC were explicitly, and in writing, given to Trump's minions and they chose to ignore the actual laws and regulations in order to aggrandize their boss/ butt-buddy; nothing you have posted denies that Trump and his jackals are actually at fault...





Still clutching those pearls, Camille? You and I both know, if Harris, Walz, and/or Biden showed up you and your fellow clutchers would be howling about how they were desecrating the ceremony and the vets memories by turning the occasion into a crass, insincere campaign photo -op; you'd howl loud and long with puffed-up faux indignity about the whole thing; the difference here is that your boy is the main offender and some of us, who do care about giving the fallen a dignity beyond mere campaign politics, are actually offended that an over-vain slob who has made little secret for his disdain towards the military (remember, Trump was forced to admit in court to embezzling funds from a veterans charity and paid $2 million dollars to keep the case from going to criminal charges), who has insulted and denigrated soldiers who actually fought (and some who have died) in combat while he traipsed around on his bone spurs, and who has never shown any sincere feeling toward their sacrifices, would have the unmitigated gall to try and stand there' acting "presidential" and making himself the focus of attention rather than the fallen and their families...

Harris, Biden, Walz, and Biden didn't attend and that is probably for the better; the focus should be on those in the earth and those who they left behind...





Wow, talk about dense; the actual link to the ANC Rules & Regulations is actually in my previous post and I even went to the effort of posting a 'domestic' link to a story further expanding on the issue (I didn't use Fox News because, well, I do actually appreciate the truth and a news source that paid $787 million to settle a lawsuit after it was caught in blatant reportage lies); don't you ever actually ever read the posts you are responding to or do you just knee-jerk respond with whatever pap you find on your right wing 'news' sites?; or, maybe, you are of the belief you can bluster and bulldoze your way over anyone who dares to espouse a view you don't subscribe to; well, bulldozer, you are not an irresistible force, but I am an immovable object...

One other thing I have wanted to bring up: you have long made it a practice to belittle and demean arguments, and those who make them, particularly in regards to a particular member who has been the object of your unwarranted spite; this is further egregious given that, unlike you, he actually posts factual links to reputable sites, not tripe like Joe Rogan or other YT bottom feeders and he makes an effort to keep the discourse civil; honestly, I have a great appreciation and admiration for the patience and forbearance of Buddahaid...


In addition, your dismissal of 'foreign' news sources is real childish; the members from outside the US who share the viewpoint of their respective lands are actually far more informative and interesting than the dreck you tend to post; I have very often used non-US news sources to balance out my research into issues because very often what they say gives fresh eyes beyond the vanned news (from all sides) we get here in the US; quite often I have found out details that the media here in the US, for whatever reason, choose not to follow; all of those who are posting from the UK, Denmark, Oz, or anywhere else, keep posting; we could all use a dose of the new here...


Well, I'm done with my rant; to those, other than Rockstar, that I may have offended with my rant, I humbly apologize for steeping outside the lines; to the Mods, I accept any brigging that may come...



<O>


EDIT: Actually, I should apologize to Rockstar; it isn't fair to engage in a battle of wits with some who is unarmed...



<O>

You sure do write a lot of words, some real tin foil hat stuff there what with all the anonymous sources, alleged wrong doing, statements with no proof. That’s a lot to sift through and piece together. No need to apologize though, I understand.

Btw back in the day Skybird used to write such wordy responses too. It took up most the bandwidth on the World Wide Web consuming so much power it dimmed city lights around the world when he posted.

But some mentioned to him then he should probably shorten it up a bit. Simple fact most people admitted they would just skip over it without even trying to read any of it.

[Buddahaid]

Vets weigh in on Trump’s parties disrespect.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Vets weigh in on Trump’s parties disrespect.

So did another vet. Totally different take on it.

You know, if no pictures were taken Trump would be wrong. Simply showing up Trump is wrong. So hey, take a few pictures. Going to be wrong no matter what.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by August

Your estimations are flawed on many levels Mister Moderator.

As are many of your responses toward myself.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

So did another vet. Totally different take on it.

You know, if no pictures were taken Trump would be wrong. Simply showing up Trump is wrong. So hey, take a few pictures. Going to be wrong no matter what.

No, he can show respect and follow the rules and it's perfectly OK, but he doesn't have a clue how to do that, and never has had a clue. And if he can't do it, his staff can and stop him from being a fool.

Rules are easy to find if you care about being respectful of this hallowed ground.

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/regs.htm

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

No, he can show respect and follow the rules and it's perfectly OK, but he doesn't have a clue how to do that, and never has had a clue. And if he can't do it, his staff can and stop him from being a fool.

Rules are easy to find if you care about being respectful of this hallowed ground.

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/regs.htm

No sir. No matter what he does there is something to complain about. It never ends.

But I agree, if the rules are in place they should be followed. However, the picture I posted above looks to be possibly from someone in attendance not of Trumps team. And, everyone is smiling like it is a family reunion. Just bizarre.

There is enough shame to go around. No show Biden or Harris at the ceremony(undeniable bad optics). No explanation of the poor planning of the withdrawal.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

No, he can show respect and follow the rules and it's perfectly OK, but he doesn't have a clue how to do that, and never has had a clue. And if he can't do it, his staff can and stop him from being a fool.

Rules are easy to find if you care about being respectful of this hallowed ground.

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/regs.htm

I guess you didn’t bother reading those either. Might want to try stay away from non governmental sources.

I posted actual up to date media policy from Arlington National Cemetery government website earlier, still waiting for someone show me the federal law that prohibits photography hell doesn’t even have to be the allegation printed in the Guardian.

13 soldiers remembered that day victims of a botched withdrawal and all you can do is get on your high horse and piously chirp about hallowed ground and Trump.

You and the media destroyed that day and made it about you and your politics.