US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Walz had already indicated months before the call up that he was not reenlisting and retiring after 25 years.

You’re barking up the wrong tree I really don’t give a crap. I’m just passing on what I hear from others that deployed and lost a body part. No matter what link you post it’s likely not going to change their mind.

[Buddahaid]

Then why do you post your comments?

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Right or wrong I know a more than few who deployed and a wounded warrior who look at Walz with disdain for skipping out on deployment.

Now on to J.D. Vance calling out Harris for not being in front of camera answering questions by the media. On a side note: That’s what I like about Trump given the chance he’ll always let you know what’s on his mind. Lol

JD should sooooooo apply this graphic to the cockpit area on the nose.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Then why do you post your comments?

Probably for the same reason that you do. It's not rocket science.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Then why do you post your comments?

Because you responded to mine, that’s how it works, duh.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Because you responded to mine, that’s how it works, duh.

And he said he doesn't care, duh yourself.

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

No doubt Walz should be called out with his brisk retirement before being deployed. The issue is it past the smell test when he started his political career. It certainly passes the smell test at CNN. But that CNN for you.

Before you call him out, you might want to check when he was serving as a U.S. Congressman.



If Vance wants to Swiftboat this guy, I think he's playing with napalm and tiki torches.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by ET2SN

Before you call him out, you might want to check when he was serving as a U.S. Congressman.



If Vance wants to Swiftboat this guy, I think he's playing with napalm and tiki torches.

What's your point? His military career didn't keep him from a political position. I don't see it making a difference in this election either.

[les green01]

Military service didn't matter when Clinton ran hadn't really have since then honestly I'm going pop some pop corn up and watch the firework's I think Neal should do a pool everybody who wants put the money in for who's going to win the election subsim gets the money then you know something good will come out of it

[August]

Interesting article on how the upcoming Dem convention compares to the 1968 debacle. A couple excerpts:

Politics is more cyclical than linear. The answer to a problem creates a new one; democratization leads to a different concentration of power, sclerosis, and the need for another transformation. The Democratic Party of 2024 suffers from two of the same weaknesses as the party of 1968: unaccountable elites and irresponsible rebels. The elites are no longer the big-city mayors and state chairs and union chiefs who controlled delegates in 1968. The elites of 2024 are a celebrity class of former presidents, top elected officials, extremely rich donors, and presidential family members. They are insular and self-interested; for much of this year they’ve acted as if their loyalty to one another matters more than their duty to the party and its voters. Meanwhile, the great middle structure that allows a party’s leaders to hear the voices of its rank and file has hollowed out. In this sense, Biden and Harris resemble Johnson and Humphrey: candidates most ordinary Democrats didn’t want but the bosses imposed. It makes sense that, instead of the polarizing eruptions of 1968, we have the consolidating delusions of 2024—Vietnam divided the party, but Trump unites it.

This year’s rebels are pro-Palestinian demonstrators, third-party defectors, the young and alienated. Whatever their political views, their disaffection is so great that many of them would welcome the defeat of the Democratic Party and could decide the outcome in a few key states, such as Michigan. In 1968, the anti-war leader Tom Hayden declared that the candidate who would best serve his goals was George Wallace, the racist governor of Alabama, on the Leninist theory of “the worse, the better.” This year’s revolutionary dreams lie on the right, with Trump hinting that he would end democratic elections, and authoritarians such as Steve Bannon and the minds behind Project 2025 plotting to dismantle every structure of government that could check his power in a second term. The rebels on the left don’t have fantasies of taking power. Their impulses are entirely negative—directed, as in 1968, not at the far enemy, the Republicans, but at the near one. When pro-Palestinian activists vow to bring tens of thousands of demonstrators to Chicago—one organizer gave the unlikely figure of 100,000—to surround the United Center, where the convention will be held, their intent is not persuasion, or even protest, but disruption that will weaken the Democratic nominee.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opini...sSerp#comments

[les green01]

I think it be funny if the Dems at the convention picks someone else to run sad thing there a lot of people thinking just cause Biden was running Harris was running too just cause she is vp

[Otto Harkaman]

I don't think there will be any surprises with Hillary, Pelosi and Obama endorsing Harris.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

I don't think there will be any surprises with Hillary, Pelosi and Obama endorsing Harris.

That was done about a week ago. Of course they all toe the line. Obama was the last to endorse. Personally, I think Obama does not feel she is fit for the job. He did delay his endorsement for 4-5 days.

[Jimbuna]

I'm not convinced Biden will understand the result come the end of the election process.

Biden 'not confident' of peaceful transition if Trump loses

US President Joe Biden has said he is not confident there will be a peaceful transition of power if Donald Trump loses the presidential election in November.

In his first interview since he dramatically dropped out of the race last month, Mr Biden told CBS News: “If Trump loses, I'm not confident at all."

"[Trump] means what he says, we don’t take him seriously. He means it, all this stuff about ‘if we lose it will be a bloodbath’.”

Mr Trump’s comment that it would “be a bloodbath for the country” if he loses the election, made as he was talking about the auto industry in March, triggered a wave of criticism.

Democrats were quick to reiterate their campaign message that the former president poses a threat to democracy. The Biden campaign used the “bloodbath” comment in an ad - posted on its social media accounts - and a spokesman accused Mr Trump of “encouraging and excusing political violence”.

The Trump campaign, however, said the comment was specifically about the auto industry and had been deliberately taken out of context. It sent a fundraising email which said Trump’s political opponents and others had been "viciously" misquoting him.

"[They] fully understood that I was simply referring to imports allowed by Crooked Joe Biden, which are killing the automobile industry," Trump wrote on social media at the time.

Mr Biden has previously expressed concern that his former rival would not accept the result of the election.

During the presidential debate on CNN in June - which triggered the crisis over Mr Biden's candidacy - Trump was asked directly whether he would accept the 2024 election results.

“If it’s a fair and legal and good election, absolutely," he responded, after initially avoiding the question.

Trump made repeated unfounded claims of election fraud in 2020 after he lost that election to Mr Biden.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgj29wk8rgo

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'm not convinced Biden will understand the result come the end of the election process.

Bidens not confident he knows where he is.