US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Here's an another question to my American friends.

Prolog.

It is said that if Biden refuse to step down the Dems has to nominee him as their candidate.

Here's my question:

Have it ever happened that one of your party have chosen an another candidate than the sitting President ?

I'm not talking about President who has become ill or have died during their Presidency-Here they would most likely pick the VP

Markus

Yes, it’s happened before where another was nominated instead of the incumbent. It’s not against the law, people can choose who they want for president.

[Dowly]

Judge Cannon just scheduled her third spanking by the 11th Circuit.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Yes, it’s happened before where another was nominated instead of the incumbent. It’s not against the law, people can choose who they want for president.

Thank you. So it could very well happen again.

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Have it ever happened that one of your party have chosen an another candidate than the sitting President ?
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Not that I know of. Lyndon Johnson was replaced by the Dems with Hubert Humphrey but only because LBJ himself refused to run for a second term.

"I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your president."

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by August

Not that I know of. Lyndon Johnson was replaced by the Dems with Hubert Humphrey but only because LBJ himself refused to run for a second term.

"I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your president."

Rockstar had an another stance on this matter and you a different one-this confused me so I thought- There's google
Here is what I found

It only happened once to an elected president. That was Franklin Pierce, the 14th president, who was elected as a Democrat in 1852. His pro-Southern sentiments and his policy of failing to lead on the divisive issue of slavery badly hurt his standing with the voters.

https://www.npr.org/sections/politic...nominatio.html

Markus

[Rockstar]

I had to ask Google the wise and all knowing and ran across an NPR article which said it happened in 1852 to Franklin Pierce when the party nominated James Buchanan.

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Rockstar had an another stance on this matter and you a different one-this confused me so I thought- There's google
Here is what I found



https://www.npr.org/sections/politic...nominatio.html

Markus

1852.

[mapuc]

Sorry friends

I should have done this search before posting my question, well I wasn't thinking in that direction

Markus

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Sorry friends

I should have done this search before posting my question, well I wasn't thinking in that direction

Markus

No worries Markus, because you asked a question I got to learn something new.

[mapuc]

Project 2025 kept popping up in my newsfeed

Now I wanna know what all this is about

Project 2025 was created by the Heritage Foundation think-tank and runs for nearly 900 pages.
Led by former Trump administration officials, it calls for the sacking of thousands of civil servants, expanding the power of the president, dismantling the Department of Education, sweeping tax cuts, a ban on pornography, halting sales of the abortion pill, and a whole lot more.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do

And there are even a wiki page on this matter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

They even have their own homepage
https://www.project2025.org/

Guess there will be a lot of protest against it.

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Project 2025 kept popping up in my newsfeed

Now I wanna know what all this is about


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do

And there are even a wiki page on this matter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

They even have their own homepage
https://www.project2025.org/

Guess there will be a lot of protest against it.

Markus

Nobody ever heard of this so called project until the Democrats started crying wolf about it. Seems they like find obscure items such as this and blow it all out of proportion. It's like all the white supremacist groups that the Democrats claim are suddenly everywhere underfoot. The way they talk you can't turn around without bumping into them but the reality is hardly anyone had ever even heard of them until the Dems started claiming the nation was awash with them.

[Rockstar]

What I know about Project 2025 is from what you just posted about it and I haven’t even clicked on any of the links.

[Otto Harkaman]

I need to just stop resisting and go with the flow and profit from all this.

Click on the links below to crowd fund my new movie project, starring a digitally young AI David Hasselhoff

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[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Judge Cannon just scheduled her third spanking by the 11th Circuit.

It was always a long shot argument. Although there was some legal basis for it, I did not think it would go far, but then Justice Thomas in his concurring opinion on the SCOTUS immunity decision opined that Smith’s appointment may not be legal and a lower court should rule on it. Judge Cannon did.

No doubt the decision will be appealed, but the Court of Appeal will not just dismiss it knowing it has been considered a valid issue by SCOTUS and a reversal of Judge Cannon’s decision will go straight to SCOTUS.

That of course does not mean judge Cannon’s decision will ultimately stand, but even if she is overturned, DOJ will have to start the whole process over, so impossible that there will be a trial before the election.

Note this will also freeze Smith’s Jan. 6 case against Trump since the exact same issue are there, so no trial there before the election either.

[mapuc]

Some reflection on American politics

Trump could be the first to sit for 3 terms if he win in Nov and again in Nov 2028(not in a row though)

Trump is lucky in double meaning-Shot barely missed him, his awaiting trials has to be postponed, if he get elected.

The Dems must be feeling they have lost the race

Markus