US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Rockstar]

I would hire Skybird to take away grandpa’s driver license. There would be no explanation or reasons given no begging and pleading. Just a quick swipe and it’s gone.

[mapuc]

https://nypost.com/2024/07/06/us-new...n-white-house/

Dr. Kevin Cannard, a Parkinson’s disease expert at Walter Reed Medical Center, met with Dr. Kevin O’Connor, and two others at the White House residence clinic on Jan. 17, according to the records, which emerge as questions continue to swirl about the 81-year-old president’s mental health in the wake of his debate debacle last week with former President Trump.

Markus

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by mapuc

https://nypost.com/2024/07/06/us-new...n-white-house/



Markus

Sleepy Joe never has been the sharpest tool in the shed.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

https://nypost.com/2024/07/06/us-new...n-white-house/



Markus

His lack of mental capacity was noted by anyone had eyes to see and ears to hear long before he was even elected. Now all of sudden everyone is acting
surprised like it just happened. He could have retired honorably but now that democrats are done using and abusing him Biden is on his way out as an embarrassment and a disgrace. They don’t give a shet about him.

If Biden was even slightly aware what was going on around him. I can think of at least two people who should have been fired SecDef for the debacle of a withdrawal in Afghanistan and lying. And SecState partying at a bar in Ukraine. Maybe that incompetent nincompoop Buttigieg.

[mapuc]

.....and despite this-American chose him as the next President in the last Presidential election.

Or as I have stated sometimes-They put their vote on Biden to get rid of Trump.

Markus

[vienna]

...and the harsh reality for the MAGA/GOP is that, even with the debacle at the debate, the needle really hasn't moved much at all in Trump's favor in the polls; the numbers before the debate were a statistical dead heat and afterwards, they still are; if the GOP had any other candidate at their helm, and Biden had faltered as he has, it would be expected that support for Biden would immediately, and significantly, wane and the result would be a substantial, and noticeable bump in the GOP' candidate's poll numbers, something which has not happened; if Biden can give such a woeful performance and the GOP's candidate cannot even benefit from it, what does that say about the GOP candidate?...

It would seem that even at his worst, Biden still holds against Trump at his 'best'...



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[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I would hire Skybird to take away grandpa’s driver license. There would be no explanation or reasons given no begging and pleading. Just a quick swipe and it’s gone.

I would seat him on a Kwiggle instead.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by vienna

...and the harsh reality for the MAGA/GOP is that, even with the debacle at the debate, the needle really hasn't moved much at all in Trump's favor in the polls; the numbers before the debate were a statistical dead heat and afterwards, they still are; if the GOP had any other candidate at their helm, and Biden had faltered as he has, it would be expected that support for Biden would immediately, and significantly, wane and the result would be a substantial, and noticeable bump in the GOP' candidate's poll numbers, something which has not happened; if Biden can give such a woeful performance and the GOP's candidate cannot even benefit from it, what does that say about the GOP candidate?...

It would seem that even at his worst, Biden still holds against Trump at his 'best'...



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Better yet, what does that say about the Democrat voters? That they are still so willing to elect a walking cadaver even after such a woeful debate performance and calls by their own party for Biden to step down.

[vienna]

Oh, a great many DEMs are very much like the GOP, willing to lock step with the party, no matter what the problems are with their candidates or policies; they are just as capable of just taking that little Party 'voter guide' that arrives just before an election and blithely and blissfully mark their ballots as the Party bosses dictate, logic and common sense be damned; the real problem for the GOP/Trump is the rather large number of Independent voters (and, also, undecided voters) who could and very well will be the deciding factor come November; again, there hasn't been any significant shift in the numbers towards Trump and the GOP from the rather large block of people who aren't party-bound drones; the statistical dead heat is mainly and overwhelmingly between those who are Party-bound, and the rest don't really want anything to do with what your parties demand as a 'take a side' requirement; we Independents will take our ballots and, instead of mindlessly and brainlessly 'rubber stamp' a slate of candidates being spoon fed by the GOP and DEM parties, we will vote based on our own, individual, considered ideas and positions, an act of ultimate responsibility...

So, basically, the lack of a shift towards Trump and the GOP has nothing to do with the DEMs and everything to do with the fact the GOP candidate is so weak and repulsive that he can't even capitalize on the poor performance of his opponent and even with a weakened opponent, something which would assuredly give a major poll 'bump' to any other opponent, he can't seem to even attract the support of the Independents and undecideds; overall, not a very big bell-ringer of an optic...



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[em2nought]

Originally Posted by mapuc

.....and despite this-American chose him as the next President in the last Presidential election.

Or as I have stated sometimes-They put their vote on Biden to get rid of Trump.

Markus

After seeing this last trick they played on us for 3 & 1/2 years maybe more people should be questioning that "vote" with renewed interest.

[Rockstar]

I bet those people found out the hard way how much of a rip-off extended auto warranties are.

[Rockstar]

What’s repulsive is how anyone can still support the Democrat Party. A Party that took advantage of & abused an old man with failing mental acuity unable to defend himself for their own personal gain. And now that the Party is finished with the old man is being driven out and his legacy will be that of a laughing stock.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

What’s repulsive is how anyone can still support the Democrat Party. A Party that took advantage of & abused an old man with failing mental acuity unable to defend himself for their own personal gain. And now that the Party is finished with the old man is being driven out and his legacy will be that of a laughing stock.

I think hundred of thousand if not million would put their vote on Biden-Not because they support him no!...As one of you wrote some page back
"- I'll vote for Biden as he is the least worst of the two candidate"
(Taken from memory)

Markus

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I think hundred of thousand if not million would put their vote on Biden-Not because they support him no!...As one of you wrote some page back
"- I'll vote for Biden as he is the least worst of the two candidate"
(Taken from memory)

Markus

Other than years of having drilled into the public’ psyche unfounded accusations of collusion, Putin puppet, pee tapes, Steele dossier, insurrectionist, Manchurian candidates, traitor, selling nuclear codes, etc etc etc. What exactly makes Trump a so-called worse candidate?

The Democrat Party might be even more repulsive than I first thought because, #1 as evidence of Sleepy Joes corruption is coming to light the DNC is running him out of town to avoid embarrassment. #2 Maybe Sleepy Joe’s doctor is right after all when he says Sleepy Joe’s mind is sound. Maybe Sleepy Joe’s memory problems is just a show to stay out trouble and let his crackhead son take the fall.

[Jimbuna]

Jill Biden's blitz to defend Joe as he ignores calls to drop out

Jill Biden heads to three key battleground states on Monday to campaign for her husband as more Democrats publicly call on Joe Biden to exit the presidential race. The first lady will attend campaign events in North Carolina, Florida and Georgia – all states Biden’s re-election campaign is still eying for a win in November, despite the flurry of calls for him to step down. During her trip, she will formally launch Veterans and Military Families for Biden. Her trip comes as Biden’s place on the Democratic ticket is at a tipping point.

He, buoyed by his wife and other family members, believes he can turn this around. But members of his party worry the situation is going to get worse. Jill Biden has been adamant that Joe Biden stays in the race. But she also hasn’t answered questions yet from the media about his condition or addressed questions about whether she worked with staff to hide it from the public. She has stood by him. She was at Biden’s side in Pennsylvania on Sunday as he tries to quiet concerns about his mental health and physical fitness. But, as they were campaigning, House Democrats held a crisis call where at least five more of them called on Joe Biden to exit the race.

Democrats are worried that, in addition to Republican Donald Trump winning the presidency, the GOP will also win both chambers of Congress, leaving no check on Trump’s presidential power. Through the crisis, however, Jill Biden has been her husband’s staunchest defender. ‘We are not going to let 90 minutes define the four years that you’ve been president,’ she told him after the debate. She also has taken charge of launching the Biden campaign's biggest voter initiatives, including Women for Biden and Seniors for Biden.

On Monday she adds veterans and military families to her list. Jill Biden is the daughter of a World War II veteran and the Bidens' late son Beau served in Iraq. As first lady, she has promoted her Joining Forces Initiative to support military families. She often talks about the Bidens' ties to the military. Both she and President Biden have criticized Donald Trump for his comments on veterans, particularly on a report that he called them 'suckers' and 'losers.' Trump has denied those comments. Her tour on Monday will take her to three states with high populations of veterans and military families.

Her first stop of the day is in Wilmington, N.C., a state critical to both candidates’ victory plans. Trump leads by six points in the polls there, according to Five Thirty Eight’s polling average of the state. Jill Biden then heads to Tampa, Florida. The president’s re-election campaign has argued the state is in play this year even though it has gone red from Trump in the past elections. Her final stop of the day is Georgia. The first lady’s arrival in the state is the biggest event there since the debate two weeks ago, where Joe Biden struggled to find words and fumbled in his responses to Trump.

Trump leads in Georgia by almost six points, according to Five Thirty Eight’s polling average of the state. Biden won the state in 2020 – the first Democrat to carry it since Bill Clinton. Both candidates want to win it in November. The Biden campaign is struggling to right itself in the almost two weeks following the debate. President Biden, in an attempt to show his mental prowess, conducted two interviews with black radio stations in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Only later it was revealed the campaign gave the questions to the hosts ahead of time. And the Philadelphia station fired its host in response to the news.

Next Biden sat down with ABC News to try and calm the storm. But Democrat's worries continue to grow and more voices are adding on to those calling on Biden to step down. Donors also are panicking. And one senior administration official told the New York Times that Biden is not capable of doing the job. The family, however, has circled the wagons. Jill Biden and Hunter Biden are now acting as the president’s gatekeepers. He has also doubled down, telling ABC News that nothing but an act from God could get him to exit the contest.

The president’s sister, Valerie Biden Owens, is also standing by him. Owens ran Joe Biden’s first Senate campaign and has been involved in every one of his campaigns since. She is his top political adviser. Jill, Hunter and Valerie are the three most important people in any decision Joe Biden makes about his future. He listens to them the most. They would need to give their blessing from him to exit the presidential race. They show no signs of doing so. The Biden clan gathered at Camp David last weekend for a pre-planned photo shoot with famed photographer Annie Leibovitz.

But the main topic of conversation was Biden's disastrous debate performance against Trump. All the family urged Bien to stay in the race. Jill Biden, in particular, points to all the family has had to endure during Joe Biden’s time in the White House. She noted the prosecutor of Hunter Biden, NBC News reported, pointing out he could go to prison. The family – and even some Republicans – saw Hunter’s prosecution on a 2018 gun purchase as too much overreach. Jill Biden argued now was the time to fight.

There is another reason the Bidens are digging in their heels. The family, particularly Jill Biden, remembers how Joe Biden was forced out of the 1988 presidential race after a plagiarism scandal. 'In 1987, she saw him be forced out by the press, pundits and polls, and it was really a scarring experience for both of them,' Michael LaRosa, the first lady's former press secretary, told the New York Times. He said had discussed the 1988 episode multiple times with the First Lady when he worked for her. 'I think they learned from that experience and they weren't going to have their hands forced like they were in 1987.'
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