Holy horology Batman, I think I found my next watch

Skybird · 06-20-24, 06:07 PM

^ Protzig (=flashy?). Absolutely not mine. I'm generally very cautious with gold in watches. It's a paradox, but often the more gold is used, the cheaper, stylistically, it looks. The Seiko Sharp Edged Dawn, which I am now eyeing and which has gold indices, is somewhat an exception in my little collection. I have a single seconds hand on one of my watches, a rose-golden second hours hand on another (the other three hands on that one are silver), and a green Seiko with golden indices all over it, thats all gold there is in my watches. If gold, then only in indices and hands, but not for braclet and case.

A question of taste, of course. Some like to show golden jewelry, me not. I have no golden rings, necklaces, tie pins, cufflinks.I also dont care for such things. In watches, I ike the play of light with colours and fine visual detail, I exclusively buy watches for their looks, not their value or lack of value, or brand name. I liek to watcn at them,and I do that severla time sove rthe da,y thats why I care. My glasses I dont see, never, and I buy the cheoaets of the chepast internet glasses I get, since 15 years always the same model. I dont see my glasses, and what others think of my glasses I dont care for. A watch however I do see myself, like the paintings on my walls. And I enjoy it.

Golden indices on a watch face with blue-ish sunburst are often a looker however. Like with green, gold and blue is a visually attractive combination.

My darling watch is red and silver, however: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...&postcount=121 Overpriced like so many Seikos these days, and the callibre is a damn primadonna that is inadequate for that price tag, but the design stuns me until today.

Aktungbby · 06-21-24, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

A watch however I do see myself, like the paintings on my walls. And I enjoy it. ...but the design stuns me until today.

In English: "It sings to my wrist!"

Skybird · 06-22-24, 05:59 AM

Deal done

, though not with the Fins but with a Swiss guy (the Fins first agreed, and then broke off contact. Nice. This is exactly the kind of behavior I keep records on in my memory).

With customs and fees and delivery, the price will equal the orginally listed price by Seiko.

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

In English: "It sings to my wrist!"

It does.

Or ion their poetic advertising prose: it's lights breaks through the last darkness of the night like the first sunbeams in the morning.

Advertising guys. Crazy people, always on dope 24/7.

Its a dress watch. I need business suits now, I have none.

Or I frame it and hang it up the wall.

Skybird · 06-27-24, 06:06 AM

From a gentleman in Switzerland. Pics do not do it justice, the colours and reflections constantly change between subtle and spectacular, bright and dark, like is always the case with the Akebono pattern in these Sharp Edged Presage Seikos. I love these watches, from the face pattern and colours to the form of the case and the quality of the heavy braclet. Thats why I have now four of these, three standard in red, gree and purple, and a GMT in blue. When I think "men's watches", I think of these.

The black steel bracelet brings the dial to shine. Maybe the dial purple-gold would not work if it were a simple grey steel, but with this Darth Vader appearance it looks - well, surprisingly sporty, I did not expect that, thought of it as a 100% dress watch. It isn't. The gold is not overdone, its rose-gold and toned down a very bit in colour, sometimes its almost silver. Its perfect. A highlight in my little collection. But it certainly catches more attention than my other Sharp Edge watches.

The callibre of these watches however is mediocre, its robust, but difficult to callibrate, the watches leave factory with way to much lack of precision for this price class (1000 for Sharp Edges, 1450-1600 for GMTs). Thats what one needs to know with modern Seiko Automatics: you pay mostly for design and looks and brand name, not for the callibre. The design often is superior, market-leading. The mechanical and with some of their watch lines the crystal quality is not up to the demanded prices. Thats why Seiko's reputation is in a slide, since years. To me, its obviously worth it, I am about the colours and reflections. But I can perfectly understand if somebody says that for these prices he demands also better mechanical quality. I think especially of the normal Presage Cocktail Times, costing around 450-600 coins - often showing failing QC and offering not even Sapphire crystals. But with the four Sharp Edge watches I now have (and these have Sapphi glass), all was and is well, I just had to callibrate two of them, and that was a PITA. They are the reason why I learned how to callibrate, and how to use a timegrapher. The procedure is simple, but hitting the right spot is difficult, is trial and error and works worse than with other callibres, even with timegraphers. They also loose their callibration over time, I must redo it once per year. Personally, I am satisfied with anythign form -10 to +10 secs per day (mind you, I talk automatics, not quartz). I get them to even half those values, but for Seiko they already do fine with -15 to +25 secs per day - that is unacceptable for this price range of 1000-1600 Euros.

Still, this Darth Vader edition is a fantastic aquisition!

The Swiss gentleman even took the effort to cross the border and send it via German DHL, this way he saved me over 220 coins in customs, VAT and logistics fees. The watch is practically new, not much worn, less than one year old, I got it 20% below Seiko's listed price. Its a limited edition and practically no longer available as "factory-new". Japanese watch makers do limited editions inflationary, to push prices and because Japanese seem to love to own items of limited editions, it gives them a sense of owning exclusiveness but at affordable costs, so was the explanation I once red. Seiko almost abuses this, they constantly release "limited editions". This black watch was produced 2000 times. Not that exclusive at all, I would say.

I own another limited item, the red Blood Moon Sharp Edge, my favourite watch. It too looks fantastic and does magic to the colour "red". LINK

Jimbuna · 06-27-24, 06:48 AM

Nice looking watch that Marc

Below is my daily use Seiko 7T92

Much humbler than yours

Skybird · 06-27-24, 07:15 AM

It shows that while I turn old, you turn younger again!

I mean I had interest in these more technically looking watches when i was young, but back then then I could not afford them, not to mention: "collect" watches. I call them, for myself, "cockpit-watches".

Aktungbby · 06-27-24, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I call them, for myself, "cockpit-watches".

...well naturally, when worn on the left wrist!

In addition to my battered Seiko 150 meter SCUBA diver

...My wife gave me an electric Seiko kept powered by wrist movement or and ultrasound recharger; it keeps meticulous time and I use it to set my other timepieces.

06-20-24, 06:07 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,719 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	^ Protzig (=flashy?). Absolutely not mine. I'm generally very cautious with gold in watches. It's a paradox, but often the more gold is used, the cheaper, stylistically, it looks. The Seiko Sharp Edged Dawn, which I am now eyeing and which has gold indices, is somewhat an exception in my little collection. I have a single seconds hand on one of my watches, a rose-golden second hours hand on another (the other three hands on that one are silver), and a green Seiko with golden indices all over it, thats all gold there is in my watches. If gold, then only in indices and hands, but not for braclet and case. A question of taste, of course. Some like to show golden jewelry, me not. I have no golden rings, necklaces, tie pins, cufflinks.I also dont care for such things. In watches, I ike the play of light with colours and fine visual detail, I exclusively buy watches for their looks, not their value or lack of value, or brand name. I liek to watcn at them,and I do that severla time sove rthe da,y thats why I care. My glasses I dont see, never, and I buy the cheoaets of the chepast internet glasses I get, since 15 years always the same model. I dont see my glasses, and what others think of my glasses I dont care for. A watch however I do see myself, like the paintings on my walls. And I enjoy it. Golden indices on a watch face with blue-ish sunburst are often a looker however. Like with green, gold and blue is a visually attractive combination. My darling watch is red and silver, however: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...&postcount=121 Overpriced like so many Seikos these days, and the callibre is a damn primadonna that is inadequate for that price tag, but the design stuns me until today. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-27-24, 06:06 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,719 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	From a gentleman in Switzerland. Pics do not do it justice, the colours and reflections constantly change between subtle and spectacular, bright and dark, like is always the case with the Akebono pattern in these Sharp Edged Presage Seikos. I love these watches, from the face pattern and colours to the form of the case and the quality of the heavy braclet. Thats why I have now four of these, three standard in red, gree and purple, and a GMT in blue. When I think "men's watches", I think of these. The black steel bracelet brings the dial to shine. Maybe the dial purple-gold would not work if it were a simple grey steel, but with this Darth Vader appearance it looks - well, surprisingly sporty, I did not expect that, thought of it as a 100% dress watch. It isn't. The gold is not overdone, its rose-gold and toned down a very bit in colour, sometimes its almost silver. Its perfect. A highlight in my little collection. But it certainly catches more attention than my other Sharp Edge watches. The callibre of these watches however is mediocre, its robust, but difficult to callibrate, the watches leave factory with way to much lack of precision for this price class (1000 for Sharp Edges, 1450-1600 for GMTs). Thats what one needs to know with modern Seiko Automatics: you pay mostly for design and looks and brand name, not for the callibre. The design often is superior, market-leading. The mechanical and with some of their watch lines the crystal quality is not up to the demanded prices. Thats why Seiko's reputation is in a slide, since years. To me, its obviously worth it, I am about the colours and reflections. But I can perfectly understand if somebody says that for these prices he demands also better mechanical quality. I think especially of the normal Presage Cocktail Times, costing around 450-600 coins - often showing failing QC and offering not even Sapphire crystals. But with the four Sharp Edge watches I now have (and these have Sapphi glass), all was and is well, I just had to callibrate two of them, and that was a PITA. They are the reason why I learned how to callibrate, and how to use a timegrapher. The procedure is simple, but hitting the right spot is difficult, is trial and error and works worse than with other callibres, even with timegraphers. They also loose their callibration over time, I must redo it once per year. Personally, I am satisfied with anythign form -10 to +10 secs per day (mind you, I talk automatics, not quartz). I get them to even half those values, but for Seiko they already do fine with -15 to +25 secs per day - that is unacceptable for this price range of 1000-1600 Euros. Still, this Darth Vader edition is a fantastic aquisition! The Swiss gentleman even took the effort to cross the border and send it via German DHL, this way he saved me over 220 coins in customs, VAT and logistics fees. The watch is practically new, not much worn, less than one year old, I got it 20% below Seiko's listed price. Its a limited edition and practically no longer available as "factory-new". Japanese watch makers do limited editions inflationary, to push prices and because Japanese seem to love to own items of limited editions, it gives them a sense of owning exclusiveness but at affordable costs, so was the explanation I once red. Seiko almost abuses this, they constantly release "limited editions". This black watch was produced 2000 times. Not that exclusive at all, I would say. I own another limited item, the red Blood Moon Sharp Edge, my favourite watch. It too looks fantastic and does magic to the colour "red". LINK __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 06-27-24 at 07:29 AM.

06-27-24, 06:48 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,014 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Nice looking watch that Marc Below is my daily use Seiko 7T92 Much humbler than yours __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-27-24, 07:15 AM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,719 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	It shows that while I turn old, you turn younger again! I mean I had interest in these more technically looking watches when i was young, but back then then I could not afford them, not to mention: "collect" watches. I call them, for myself, "cockpit-watches". __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.