Sub at comms depth

LoBlo · 08-07-06, 10:59 AM

I'm not certain, but iirc there is some sort of mock "coming to radio" depth modeled in the game to simulate updating link data, but the AI subs don't deploy mast. And no, mast are not radar detectable in game, neither are the sub sails out of the water.

If you would like to script the subs mast being detected you could...

a). script the sub to surface completely. That would insure that it would be detected and the sub would show up on radar. Even though its not totally realistic its a compromise to get the mission plot to playout like you wanted. After detection, the sub could be scripted to dive again to a shallow depth, to prevent it being shot at by a SSM.

b). script the sub to come to a shallow depth at a point. And then script the FFG to receive a verbal message from the crew.

trigger "sub comes to com depth" fired.
trigger fire, send message to FFG: "Conn, EW. I'm picking up a faint signal sir. Bearing xxx, range x yards. Could be a submarine mast sir."

The player would then have to manually plot the coordinates given in the message and proceed from there.

c). script a small unimportant object to appear that is radar detectable, and then disappear whenever the FFG detects it.

trigger: create dynamic group
trigger: when detect object with FFG radar, then remove dynamic group.

That's all I can think of atm. Personally I like the option (b) the best. Its adds an element of role-play to the mission, IMHO, whenever the crew is scripted to verbally relay's information to the Capt. Hope that helps.

lb

Morgan · 08-21-06, 04:48 AM

I like the 'B' option the most, as you did. I did this one in the mission, with some little cahnges (I tried to make the sub to deploy it's radar mast, that was okay). Thanks for the help.

Palindromeria · 10-07-06, 02:49 PM

IF "detect" then comms depth is useful and realistic.

you are detected by enemy sub , he comes to comms and lets a few patrolling airplanes know where you are so they can come sink you.
or to have your ai ally subs clue you in to the enemies position. etc
( hey dude we found the convoy ! )

IF "detect" set depth x

can also be used to set sub to a depth and/or speed required
for launch of a specific weapon (such as ss n 27 or VLS tubes)
to bring a kilo up from "too deep to fire torpedoes" position.
or to mimic it going deep and slow in an attempt to remain covert. (under therm)

you can also use if detect with a specific sensor to
mimic different reactions based on proximity. (the max range of the sensor)

gotta love the variablility

08-07-06, 10:59 AM	#1
LoBlo Subsim Diehard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas! Posts: 971 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 3	I'm not certain, but iirc there is some sort of mock "coming to radio" depth modeled in the game to simulate updating link data, but the AI subs don't deploy mast. And no, mast are not radar detectable in game, neither are the sub sails out of the water. If you would like to script the subs mast being detected you could... a). script the sub to surface completely. That would insure that it would be detected and the sub would show up on radar. Even though its not totally realistic its a compromise to get the mission plot to playout like you wanted. After detection, the sub could be scripted to dive again to a shallow depth, to prevent it being shot at by a SSM. b). script the sub to come to a shallow depth at a point. And then script the FFG to receive a verbal message from the crew. trigger "sub comes to com depth" fired. trigger fire, send message to FFG: "Conn, EW. I'm picking up a faint signal sir. Bearing xxx, range x yards. Could be a submarine mast sir." The player would then have to manually plot the coordinates given in the message and proceed from there. c). script a small unimportant object to appear that is radar detectable, and then disappear whenever the FFG detects it. trigger: create dynamic group trigger: when detect object with FFG radar, then remove dynamic group. That's all I can think of atm. Personally I like the option (b) the best. Its adds an element of role-play to the mission, IMHO, whenever the crew is scripted to verbally relay's information to the Capt. Hope that helps. lb __________________ "Seek not to offend or annoy... only to speak the truth"-a wise man Last edited by LoBlo; 08-07-06 at 11:04 AM.

08-21-06, 04:48 AM	#2
Morgan Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Budapest Posts: 11 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I like the 'B' option the most, as you did. I did this one in the mission, with some little cahnges (I tried to make the sub to deploy it's radar mast, that was okay). Thanks for the help.

10-07-06, 02:49 PM	#3
Palindromeria Planesman Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 199 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	IF "detect" then comms depth is useful and realistic. you are detected by enemy sub , he comes to comms and lets a few patrolling airplanes know where you are so they can come sink you. or to have your ai ally subs clue you in to the enemies position. etc ( hey dude we found the convoy ! ) IF "detect" set depth x can also be used to set sub to a depth and/or speed required for launch of a specific weapon (such as ss n 27 or VLS tubes) to bring a kilo up from "too deep to fire torpedoes" position. or to mimic it going deep and slow in an attempt to remain covert. (under therm) you can also use if detect with a specific sensor to mimic different reactions based on proximity. (the max range of the sensor) gotta love the variablility