problem with manual TDC in FOTRSU

boonie · 03-19-24, 11:02 PM

nah.. i thought of going for v1.3. but that's too 2012..

finally figured how to get a sh4 patch 1.4 going after 1 night of trying. now i am running fotrs v2.0. although i only know 2 words in german 'panzerkampfwagen' and 'flammenwerf'... but they have working stadimeter. lol.

propbeanie · 03-20-24, 07:19 AM

Had you emptied the Save folder, which defaults to C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4 after you activated FotRSU v1.8? It uses quite a few "assets" differently than the Stock or any other modded game, and if you do not empty the Save folder, the game does not run correctly. That also applies to most major mod configuration changes with JSGME, but is dependent upon what is changed when doing so. If you still have FotRSU activated, run its JSGME and choose "Tasks..." in the middle, then "Export activated mods list to --->" and choose either "Clipboard" or "Text file", and paste the info into your next post. As an aside, there is a partial English translation in the SubSim downloads somewhere for v2.x of FOTRS. It is a beautiful looking mod, and is what FotRSU was built on, along with combining v1.2 and v1.3 of the SH4v1.5 mods. You will most likely find that the AI is quite persistent in FOTRS v2.x

boonie · 03-20-24, 08:50 PM

cant get the log now.. i already wiped out the sh4 v1.5. now i am on sh4v1.4 doing fotrs v2.0.

will look for the file tyvm

its tough playing with full german language.. i am using a 2nd monitor to type out everything sent from radio in to google translate while pausing the game.. it however gave a strange vibe of working the enigma machine.. LMFAO...

ps:
is this the link u mentioned?

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=226278

the link on the top of the page that was supposedly leading to a translated version only leads to the same german version download page unfortunately.

boonie · 03-21-24, 07:21 PM

initial testing of FOTRS v2.0 (ge):
-radar is not working. big disappointment.

-friendly unit dont seems to generate sound in hydrophone.i think this comes from stock.
-sometimes the sound just bug out and gives out a long super loud garble of noises. super annoying. encountered twice in few hours of play, happened during dive/surfacing when time compression is used.

not sure to continue with this or go back to fotrsu at this point.

propbeanie · 03-21-24, 08:08 PM

Which boat are you in, and what year is it? FOTRS tried to have relatively accurate dates for both the SD and SJ radars, so it is like June 1942 before SD Air Search, and later for SJ Surface search.

There is an issue with at least one, possibly three ships in Stock that do not have the "sound" correct for sonar/hydrophones, and that is carried into FOTRS.

The Stock game mostly uses 44.1kHz, 16-bit audio, which would be "CD Quality", for the wave file sounds. Speech is mostly ogg vorbis. Music might be mp3 or wav. The 'modern' computer is usually running at 48kHz at 24-bit depth, since most of the online movies are at that or at 16-bits. That can sometimes lead to issues with older DirectX v9 games, such as SH4. Also, if I'm not mistaken, there are a few sounds in FOTRS that are not "Stock game compliant", and are either lower in frequency or bit-depth, which can throw the game's audio engine off. However, another factor could be if you hadn't deleted the Save folder after activating the mod, which could also contribute to radar, sonar and hydrophone issues. The only "problem" with FOTRS (besides the language barrier) is the number of what I call "run-away spawns" that occur, mostly from Japanese ports with IJN DD that were not docked properly, or were not terminated properly. I thought I had a "fix" posted for that on SubSim here, but cannot find that. I'll try to dig that out of the old computer and re-upload it.

boonie · 03-22-24, 04:47 AM

i am not sure if i have removed the save files in btwn the operation. will reinstall another round to get to the bottom of it..

in my fotrs v2.0 i started at 8th dec right after pearl harbor. when i go to sub component screen at base there are SD radar already installed on my sargo boat. but no air radar installed nor in store yet. and when i go for the 1st patrol both the air and sea radar is not working . as in, i cant flip the switch to turn on the thing.

i am even beginning to enjoy working the enigma machine. its weird coz i am supposed to be on the american side.

GWB · 03-22-24, 07:07 AM

this is frustrating because my lengthy post with attached image just got deleted where i tried to highlight the same issue.

I'm new here, so clean SH4 / FotRSU installation, following the instructions. The whole setup seems to work fine & as intended, UNLESS I turned the TDC difficulty up (which is what I want).

When this happens, the whole process of using periscope to ID the enemy ship, get range, AoB and so forth seems to work perfectly, but once the speed is sent over (which the TDC accepts by its own account) the target information is NOT kept updated, despite the scope being "locked" on target. The range to target does NOT tick down.

In addition to this, firing the torpedos fires them wherever the scope is looking, and not into the projected path of the ship, based on speed + angle and all that good stuff. I even unlocked the periscope to try and guestimate where target would be once the torp covered distance to target, and to my suprise, the torpedo still fired directly towards the ship (even though it was about 20 degrees off the bow!)

Somehow, my speed inputs are not being made use of by either the TDC for ship tracking purposes, nor the gyro settings on the torpedoes to make their initial turns towards target.

My screenshot shows the passage of time (stiched 2 together) with no change on the range. It shows the target is locked, the AoB was appx 40-45 degrees Starboard (ie approaching) and speed was set at 11kts (which the TDC shows as being accepted, alongside range).

The range was roughly 2500-3000 yards if memory serves, but it was NOT ticking down as the seconds went on by. Come to think of it, none of the values were updating, including AoB etc, all of which I updated several times, hoping at some point the TDC would "take hold".

Can anyone think of any ideas, short of playing this game on easy, which is exactly not what I wanted.

PS I did the install & activation instructions, including to install outside programfiles, the 4GB Memory address hack thing, and the running then deletion of docs / sh4 savegames folder contents... And otherwise the thing seems to work perfectly. Thanks in advance

03-20-24, 07:19 AM	#2
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,810 Downloads: 444 Uploads: 2	Had you emptied the Save folder, which defaults to C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4 after you activated FotRSU v1.8? It uses quite a few "assets" differently than the Stock or any other modded game, and if you do not empty the Save folder, the game does not run correctly. That also applies to most major mod configuration changes with JSGME, but is dependent upon what is changed when doing so. If you still have FotRSU activated, run its JSGME and choose "Tasks..." in the middle, then "Export activated mods list to --->" and choose either "Clipboard" or "Text file", and paste the info into your next post. As an aside, there is a partial English translation in the SubSim downloads somewhere for v2.x of FOTRS. It is a beautiful looking mod, and is what FotRSU was built on, along with combining v1.2 and v1.3 of the SH4v1.5 mods. You will most likely find that the AI is quite persistent in FOTRS v2.x __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

03-20-24, 08:50 PM	#3
boonie Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 134 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	cant get the log now.. i already wiped out the sh4 v1.5. now i am on sh4v1.4 doing fotrs v2.0. will look for the file tyvm its tough playing with full german language.. i am using a 2nd monitor to type out everything sent from radio in to google translate while pausing the game.. it however gave a strange vibe of working the enigma machine.. LMFAO... ps: is this the link u mentioned? https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=226278 the link on the top of the page that was supposedly leading to a translated version only leads to the same german version download page unfortunately. Last edited by boonie; 03-21-24 at 01:23 AM.

03-21-24, 08:08 PM	#5
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,810 Downloads: 444 Uploads: 2	Which boat are you in, and what year is it? FOTRS tried to have relatively accurate dates for both the SD and SJ radars, so it is like June 1942 before SD Air Search, and later for SJ Surface search. There is an issue with at least one, possibly three ships in Stock that do not have the "sound" correct for sonar/hydrophones, and that is carried into FOTRS. The Stock game mostly uses 44.1kHz, 16-bit audio, which would be "CD Quality", for the wave file sounds. Speech is mostly ogg vorbis. Music might be mp3 or wav. The 'modern' computer is usually running at 48kHz at 24-bit depth, since most of the online movies are at that or at 16-bits. That can sometimes lead to issues with older DirectX v9 games, such as SH4. Also, if I'm not mistaken, there are a few sounds in FOTRS that are not "Stock game compliant", and are either lower in frequency or bit-depth, which can throw the game's audio engine off. However, another factor could be if you hadn't deleted the Save folder after activating the mod, which could also contribute to radar, sonar and hydrophone issues. The only "problem" with FOTRS (besides the language barrier) is the number of what I call "run-away spawns" that occur, mostly from Japanese ports with IJN DD that were not docked properly, or were not terminated properly. I thought I had a "fix" posted for that on SubSim here, but cannot find that. I'll try to dig that out of the old computer and re-upload it. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

03-19-24, 11:02 PM	#1
boonie Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 134 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	nah.. i thought of going for v1.3. but that's too 2012.. finally figured how to get a sh4 patch 1.4 going after 1 night of trying. now i am running fotrs v2.0. although i only know 2 words in german 'panzerkampfwagen' and 'flammenwerf'... but they have working stadimeter. lol.

03-21-24, 07:21 PM	#4
boonie Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 134 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	initial testing of FOTRS v2.0 (ge): -radar is not working. big disappointment. -friendly unit dont seems to generate sound in hydrophone.i think this comes from stock. -sometimes the sound just bug out and gives out a long super loud garble of noises. super annoying. encountered twice in few hours of play, happened during dive/surfacing when time compression is used. not sure to continue with this or go back to fotrsu at this point.

03-22-24, 04:47 AM	#6
boonie Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 134 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	i am not sure if i have removed the save files in btwn the operation. will reinstall another round to get to the bottom of it.. in my fotrs v2.0 i started at 8th dec right after pearl harbor. when i go to sub component screen at base there are SD radar already installed on my sargo boat. but no air radar installed nor in store yet. and when i go for the 1st patrol both the air and sea radar is not working . as in, i cant flip the switch to turn on the thing. i am even beginning to enjoy working the enigma machine. its weird coz i am supposed to be on the american side.

03-22-24, 07:07 AM	#7
GWB Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2024 Posts: 6 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	this is frustrating because my lengthy post with attached image just got deleted where i tried to highlight the same issue. I'm new here, so clean SH4 / FotRSU installation, following the instructions. The whole setup seems to work fine & as intended, UNLESS I turned the TDC difficulty up (which is what I want). When this happens, the whole process of using periscope to ID the enemy ship, get range, AoB and so forth seems to work perfectly, but once the speed is sent over (which the TDC accepts by its own account) the target information is NOT kept updated, despite the scope being "locked" on target. The range to target does NOT tick down. In addition to this, firing the torpedos fires them wherever the scope is looking, and not into the projected path of the ship, based on speed + angle and all that good stuff. I even unlocked the periscope to try and guestimate where target would be once the torp covered distance to target, and to my suprise, the torpedo still fired directly towards the ship (even though it was about 20 degrees off the bow!) Somehow, my speed inputs are not being made use of by either the TDC for ship tracking purposes, nor the gyro settings on the torpedoes to make their initial turns towards target. My screenshot shows the passage of time (stiched 2 together) with no change on the range. It shows the target is locked, the AoB was appx 40-45 degrees Starboard (ie approaching) and speed was set at 11kts (which the TDC shows as being accepted, alongside range). The range was roughly 2500-3000 yards if memory serves, but it was NOT ticking down as the seconds went on by. Come to think of it, none of the values were updating, including AoB etc, all of which I updated several times, hoping at some point the TDC would "take hold". Can anyone think of any ideas, short of playing this game on easy, which is exactly not what I wanted. PS I did the install & activation instructions, including to install outside programfiles, the 4GB Memory address hack thing, and the running then deletion of docs / sh4 savegames folder contents... And otherwise the thing seems to work perfectly. Thanks in advance