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A German site quoted Höglund saying that they were only seven minutes away from total meltdown.
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Nukes are a very good thing for this world. Cheap and clean electricity that is unmatched in power and cleanliness except by only 1 dam in the entire world - Grand Coulee.
Only bad thing is - cost cutting and getting rid of your staff = a bad thing. We still haven't learned this after all these years. You should 'never' see articles like this. -S |
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I live in Denmark...right next to Sweden so im glad it didnt melt down.
Only 30 km from Denmark capitol Sweden has placed a Nuclear plant a long time ago of the same design I believe as the others. For many years the danish goverment has pressed for the 2 reactors to be shutdown due to the proxemity to the danish captital. It finally happend last year I think. Do they still wonder why Denmark was so persistent about it???
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I compared these two Swedish articles, with articles from BBC, and German newspapers (when it even was mentioned). Interesting that the international press plays down the thing massively, saying it all is harmless and meaningless. the critisim of that former security chief even is not mentioned at all. Which is strange if four of ten national reactors are driven down more or less abruptly and unplanned.
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We accept fission reactors because we are transparent about it. No transparency, no reactor. But I wouldn't trust the Swedish government with nuclear reactors even if they were built with glass! I wouldn't trust the Danish either, in fact I wouldn't trust any government with it, and certainly not Iran.
I'm not exactly sure, however, if a nuclear meltdown in Scandinavia wouldn't be for the better in the end. Not the best, but a benefit anyway. Because of Skybird's previous signature (necessity breeds strength).
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German TV news today broadcasted the event, describing it as a serious accident and the worst and most threatening since Chernobyl, and characterizing the event as having been short of a complete and total meltdown. At the centre of examination seem to be some technical components by AEG that have failed to work as intended, causing problems in backup power supplies, and that are also used in German powerplants. As a consequence, German "AKWs" , as we call them, are also undergoing massive technical inspections currently.
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That's fairly hardcore for 50% of their backup generators to fail. Our reactors are required to run-test them on a monthly basis here in the US. That's part of scheduled maintenance cycles.
Sounds like either they're not getting the funding they need, or worse, they've been using their funding to bribe politicians. This is one of the main reasons, understandably, why people want idiot-proof reactor designs like the generation IV "pebble bed" reactors. Part of the problem in the states stems from the fact that SEC violations aren't always a felony. There are crooked bastards that go from one company to another with a whole damn string of violations at each one, and pull severance packages of $10m after running the company into a $300m quarterly loss for 2 years straight. Look at Infinity Labs, for Christ's sake! So, unfortunately, that's an issue with reactors. I have making the government larger, but in this case, it takes regulation. The problem is that we have no real deterrance for this kind of behavior, and if you start executing CEO's and CIO's and COO's, you're going to deter investment. However, if you do nothing, the good old boy network just keeps running right along like it always has. |
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Second, I would be carefull with statements like " I'm not exactly sure, however, if a nuclear meltdown in Scandinavia wouldn't be for the better in the end." I read this as we deserve a meltdown!
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ON TV it was said, that all four generators showed the same identical technical problem - and that it therefore was by pure chance that only 50% (2 of 4) did not work. It could have been easily a failure of all four. Checkups at other Swedish and German reactors are becasue of this. The more I red or heard about this incident, the more I realize how extremely close it was to a Chernobyl-sized desaster. We were lucky again this time - nothing else.
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wow scary stuff
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