Two small FOTRSU / General SH4 questions

Tabris · 12-18-23, 04:55 PM

Propbeanie et al, sorry for the late reply, I fell unexpectedly ill last week.

Clearly I've done something seriously wrong with my install! It's strange, I haven't noticed at any problems with my install of the mod at all as far as functionality goes, so I figured all was working as intended, but no:

I went to Guadalcanal and the place was dead! I spent over a week there and didn't see a single ship, friend or foe. Thinking maybe it was just bad luck, I checked the campaign files in the mission editor. There's almost nothing there! No random or scripted traffic anywhere near the Solomons at all, neither allied, axis, nor neutral. I found a single campaign layer that sent two scripted groups of small warships through the area but that's all. Now, I've spent a lot of time customizing the campaign layers for SH3, but I've no prior experience in SH4, so it's possible I wasn't looking in the right place, but I did check such files as "jap merchants A" and "B," likewise for convoys, troopships, task forces, etc, on both sides. None of those layers had any traffic in the area.

Far be it from me to assume I can't install something wrong, but I'm just flabbergasted. I thought I installed FOTRSU and everything I've seen in the game until now seems to be in line with what the mod includes, yet somehow I'm working with vanilla's (?) campaign files. Guess I'll have to do a full reinstall? Would it be any trouble for someone to send me the campaign files on their own for me to compare to what I've got?

Thanks in advance all. Never a dull moment in learning to mod these games I guess.
- Tabris

propbeanie · 12-18-23, 06:27 PM

Well, you do not mention when you are in the area. The Japanese do not come into the Guadalcanal area until Spring/Summer of 1942, and at that, it is a light presence. The Battle of the Coral Sea occurs during that time frame. Then the US lands on Guadalcanal 7th August 1942, and it is September 1942 before the Japanese begin to decide their approach to the area and the Tokyo Express fires up. By the end of the year, it is basically over, and by the end of January, the Japanese presence there is basically gone. The US then migrates up the chain, as other operations also begin, such as MacArthur advancing up New Guinea. Plenty of traffic all over the region, but it is time-based as to when you'll see it. Also, it is easy to miss the battles. However, The Slot and Iron Bottom Sound are rather busy on an almost daily basis from September through December 1942...

Tabris · 12-18-23, 07:05 PM

it was late Aug, early Sept 42. What you've done in the image looks really useful! How do you view multiple layers at once?

KaleunMarco · 12-19-23, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tabris

it was late Aug, early Sept 42. What you've done in the image looks really useful! How do you view multiple layers at once?

open the first file then use Merge for addl campaign files.

propbeanie · 12-22-23, 03:52 PM

A couple of things to supplement what KaleunMarco said:

1. After you open the first file, and click on the "Merge" option for the next file, be certain that the "Mark merged data as saveable" tick box is clear, no checkmark.
2. With that setting, you can then edit the first file's data and "Save" it just fine. Doing this can help you in properly locating groups and ships that you edit, so they don't spawn into other groups and units...

12-18-23, 06:27 PM	#2
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,099 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Well, you do not mention when you are in the area. The Japanese do not come into the Guadalcanal area until Spring/Summer of 1942, and at that, it is a light presence. The Battle of the Coral Sea occurs during that time frame. Then the US lands on Guadalcanal 7th August 1942, and it is September 1942 before the Japanese begin to decide their approach to the area and the Tokyo Express fires up. By the end of the year, it is basically over, and by the end of January, the Japanese presence there is basically gone. The US then migrates up the chain, as other operations also begin, such as MacArthur advancing up New Guinea. Plenty of traffic all over the region, but it is time-based as to when you'll see it. Also, it is easy to miss the battles. However, The Slot and Iron Bottom Sound are rather busy on an almost daily basis from September through December 1942... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

12-22-23, 03:52 PM	#5
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,099 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	A couple of things to supplement what KaleunMarco said: 1. After you open the first file, and click on the "Merge" option for the next file, be certain that the "Mark merged data as saveable" tick box is clear, no checkmark. 2. With that setting, you can then edit the first file's data and "Save" it just fine. Doing this can help you in properly locating groups and ships that you edit, so they don't spawn into other groups and units... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

12-18-23, 04:55 PM	#1
Tabris Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 131 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	Propbeanie et al, sorry for the late reply, I fell unexpectedly ill last week. Clearly I've done something seriously wrong with my install! It's strange, I haven't noticed at any problems with my install of the mod at all as far as functionality goes, so I figured all was working as intended, but no: I went to Guadalcanal and the place was dead! I spent over a week there and didn't see a single ship, friend or foe. Thinking maybe it was just bad luck, I checked the campaign files in the mission editor. There's almost nothing there! No random or scripted traffic anywhere near the Solomons at all, neither allied, axis, nor neutral. I found a single campaign layer that sent two scripted groups of small warships through the area but that's all. Now, I've spent a lot of time customizing the campaign layers for SH3, but I've no prior experience in SH4, so it's possible I wasn't looking in the right place, but I did check such files as "jap merchants A" and "B," likewise for convoys, troopships, task forces, etc, on both sides. None of those layers had any traffic in the area. Far be it from me to assume I can't install something wrong, but I'm just flabbergasted. I thought I installed FOTRSU and everything I've seen in the game until now seems to be in line with what the mod includes, yet somehow I'm working with vanilla's (?) campaign files. Guess I'll have to do a full reinstall? Would it be any trouble for someone to send me the campaign files on their own for me to compare to what I've got? Thanks in advance all. Never a dull moment in learning to mod these games I guess. - Tabris

12-18-23, 07:05 PM	#3
Tabris Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 131 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	it was late Aug, early Sept 42. What you've done in the image looks really useful! How do you view multiple layers at once?