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TDK1044 · 08-03-06, 01:10 PM

I guess that's my point really. I've always assumed that they receive the better ideas expressed here, but I have no evidence that they actually do.

Sulikate · 08-03-06, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

I guess that's my point really. I've always assumed that they receive the better ideas expressed here, but I have no evidence that they actually do.

The lack of evidence they are watching us, the lack of evidence this game is making any progress, everything worries me.

Safe-Keeper · 08-03-06, 01:45 PM

I'm convinced we're being watched over by the developers, God, a China tea-pot orbiting the Sun, and a sexy topless girl spirit. We just don't see them

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All I have to say is, ask them at the upcoming interview.

rik007 · 08-03-06, 02:02 PM

With previous versions of SH that was the case indeed so I am sure they read these forums at least as much as we do.

Onkel Neal · 08-03-06, 03:55 PM

Subsim was closely involved with SH2 and SH3 all during the development cycle. We were the first to see SH3 at E3, and we were given a beta to preview at the Subsim meeting in Oct. 2005, the first hands-on preview of the game by several months. In one website's interview you can see a Subsim Battle Mug sitting on the programmer's desk

SH4 is underway with the same dev team, Ubisoft Romania, and the dev team read the Subsim forums and they listen to your input. At their request, Subsim is running a survey to get your preferences. Like a good sub, you don't know they are here until they surface.

Safe-Keeper · 08-03-06, 04:16 PM

Great to hear that, Neal.

Sulikate · 08-03-06, 06:08 PM

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Great to hear that, Neal.

TDK1044 · 08-04-06, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Subsim was closely involved with SH2 and SH3 all during the development cycle. We were the first to see SH3 at E3, and we were given a beta to preview at the Subsim meeting in Oct. 2005, the first hands-on preview of the game by several months. In one website's interview you can see a Subsim Battle Mug sitting on the programmer's desk

SH4 is underway with the same dev team, Ubisoft Romania, and the dev team read the Subsim forums and they listen to your input. At their request, Subsim is running a survey to get your preferences. Like a good sub, you don't know they are here until they surface.

Excellent news. I hoped that was the case, Neal.

Wilko · 08-05-06, 01:26 AM

I liked the idea of the sexy topless girl spirit

TwistedFemur · 08-05-06, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sulikate

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

I guess that's my point really. I've always assumed that they receive the better ideas expressed here, but I have no evidence that they actually do.

The lack of evidence they are watching us, the lack of evidence this game is making any progress, everything worries me.

could be that they are too busy.....ever think of that?

Sulikate · 08-05-06, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedFemur

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Originally Posted by Sulikate

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

I guess that's my point really. I've always assumed that they receive the better ideas expressed here, but I have no evidence that they actually do.

The lack of evidence they are watching us, the lack of evidence this game is making any progress, everything worries me.

could be that they are too busy.....ever think of that?

I try to.

The General · 08-06-06, 06:00 AM

I've read that during the production of SH3 the original team had to shelve the project for some time, to sort out some financial issues and/or 'Corporate Restructuring'. This is why I know, despite many of you arguing with me, that SH3 wasn't finished when they put it out. They needed some quick cash for that particular tax year or something. I offer as proof the fact there was supposed to be a proper mission structure delivered via the Radio message system, but the team didn't have time to implement it and thus, you just get the 'proceed to grid reference blah, blah for 24 Hours' etc.

On the bright side, what was finished was great and there was room for some great Mods etc, which I hope to see more of in the near future, 'cos I believe there is still room for improvement.

08-06-06, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The General

I've read that during the production of SH3 the original team had to shelve the project for some time, to sort out some financial issues and/or 'Corporate Restructuring'. This is why I know, despite many of you arguing with me, that SH3 wasn't finished when they put it out. They needed some quick cash for that particular tax year or something. I offer as proof the fact there was supposed to be a proper mission structure delivered via the Radio message system, but the team didn't have time to implement it and thus, you just get the 'proceed to grid reference blah, blah for 24 Hours' etc.

On the bright side, what was finished was great and there was room for some great Mods etc, which I hope to see more of in the near future, 'cos I believe there is still room for improvement.

It's nice to say things like "I know", but the game wasn't 'shelved' due to financial issues or 'Corporate Restructuring'. That was true of SHII, but SHIII was delayed due to other reasons, which were directly connected to the mission system.

For my viewpoint on that delay, see here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...mpaign+dynamic

The General · 08-06-06, 03:06 PM

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I could be wrong though

You are wrong.

08-03-06, 01:45 PM	#3
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I'm convinced we're being watched over by the developers, God, a China tea-pot orbiting the Sun, and a sexy topless girl spirit. We just don't see them. All I have to say is, ask them at the upcoming interview. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

08-03-06, 03:55 PM	#5
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Subsim was closely involved with SH2 and SH3 all during the development cycle. We were the first to see SH3 at E3, and we were given a beta to preview at the Subsim meeting in Oct. 2005, the first hands-on preview of the game by several months. In one website's interview you can see a Subsim Battle Mug sitting on the programmer's desk SH4 is underway with the same dev team, Ubisoft Romania, and the dev team read the Subsim forums and they listen to your input. At their request, Subsim is running a survey to get your preferences. Like a good sub, you don't know they are here until they surface. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

08-03-06, 04:16 PM	#6
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Great to hear that, Neal. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

08-05-06, 01:26 AM	#9
Wilko Officer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Aussie Posts: 249 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	I liked the idea of the sexy topless girl spirit __________________ You take it easy... and have a nice day

08-06-06, 06:00 AM	#12
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	Production difficulties I've read that during the production of SH3 the original team had to shelve the project for some time, to sort out some financial issues and/or 'Corporate Restructuring'. This is why I know, despite many of you arguing with me, that SH3 wasn't finished when they put it out. They needed some quick cash for that particular tax year or something. I offer as proof the fact there was supposed to be a proper mission structure delivered via the Radio message system, but the team didn't have time to implement it and thus, you just get the 'proceed to grid reference blah, blah for 24 Hours' etc. On the bright side, what was finished was great and there was room for some great Mods etc, which I hope to see more of in the near future, 'cos I believe there is still room for improvement.

08-03-06, 01:10 PM	#1
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I guess that's my point really. I've always assumed that they receive the better ideas expressed here, but I have no evidence that they actually do.

08-03-06, 02:02 PM	#4
rik007 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 785 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	With previous versions of SH that was the case indeed so I am sure they read these forums at least as much as we do.