Kennedy Assasination: A very sad 60th anniversary of the death of a sitting president

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by August

I personally know folks who have duplicated Oswalds shots successfully. It certainly is doable with a bolt action rifle, especially by a trained marksman familiar with the weapon.

I think there was an episode on Myth Busters which showed it could be done and the bullet travelled dang near the exact same path.

[em2nought]

I'm pretty sure President Trump is still alive because "they" don't think they could get away with it twice. They've had to find other methods of assassination. I'm not exactly sure who the "they" is though. Sure seems like the benefactors of both is going to be the military industrial complex.

[Otto Harkaman]

The Intelligence Covert Military Complex

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by August

I have seen it done with my own eyes by the 10th Special Forces Sniper Team back in the early 1980's. It was repeated twice by different shooters with that same model rifle as Oswald used.

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AK is not a ballistics expert.

The FBI alone conducted 25,000 interviews and ran down 10's of thousands of investigative leads. https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-c...-assassination

Doesn't sound like anything was wrapped up in mere hours.

Believe what you want, i don't expect anyone to change their mind about it but as far as i'm concerned it's just another conspiracy theory much like how 9-11 was supposed to be an inside job.

It's a contentious issue to be sure. Although I didn't see it, I know people within different teams that were not able to duplicate the shots with that weapon. When you say you have seen it done, were the actual conditions duplicated as well including the car, speed, distances, elevation etc.... ?


Cyril Wecht is an expert and has said there were other shooters involved. JFK's brain disappeared and other Forensic Pathologists were never allowed to see his brain in the course of an " Investigation." There are too many discrepancies, Do you believe that Oswald was killed by a " patriot " Jack Ruby ? No, it was to shut him up.

[Rockstar]

Well OK maybe it wasn’t mythbusters . Maybe Schiff has the evidence.

[August]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

When you say you have seen it done, were the actual conditions duplicated as well including the car, speed, distances, elevation etc.... ?

Yes it was specifically done to duplicate the conditions including the type of rifle and scope that was used. They also simulated shooting from the grassy knoll but that angle was nearly 90 degrees and a much harder target to hit than Oswalds vantage point which had the limo traveling almost directly away from him. I saw that one tried 4 times and they only managed to get a hit once.

Cyril Wecht is an expert and has said there were other shooters involved. JFK's brain disappeared and other Forensic Pathologists were never allowed to see his brain in the course of an " Investigation." There are too many discrepancies, Do you believe that Oswald was killed by a " patriot " Jack Ruby ? No, it was to shut him up.

I agree it was likely done to shut him up which is why I think there is some merit to the idea that somebody put Oswald up to it. The Russians are another suspect given that Oswald had defected to them just a few years earlier.

[d@rk51d3]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Oswald fired the first shot who hit him in the neck. The second shot came from a weapon in front of the limo.
Tried to find this documentary on YT without any luck it was produced by some Australian company.

I say it's plausible

Markus

I saw that one a while ago too.

Usual security detachment were too drunk/hungover to go on duty, so a green crew was assigned.

Oswalds shot injured JFK. One of the new security personnel, sitting with his finger on the trigger jumped at the sound and inadvertently pulled his own trigger, making the fatal shot.

[August]

Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

I saw that one a while ago too.

Usual security detachment were too drunk/hungover to go on duty, so a green crew was assigned.

Oswalds shot injured JFK. One of the new security personnel, sitting with his finger on the trigger jumped at the sound and inadvertently pulled his own trigger, making the fatal shot.

There is absolutely no way a pistol round can be confused with a rifle round.

[d@rk51d3]

Originally Posted by August

There is absolutely no way a pistol round can be confused with a rifle round.

Apparently someone in the car behind had rifle?

Found the doco source:

https://isbnsearch.org/isbn/9780733630446


https://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/t...un-2013/32168/

[August]

Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

Apparently someone in the car behind had rifle?

Found the doco source:

https://isbnsearch.org/isbn/9780733630446

I find that very hard to believe. Even harder to believe that such a discharge would not have shattered the windshield.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by August

They also simulated shooting from the grassy knoll but that angle was nearly 90 degrees and a much harder target to hit than Oswalds vantage point which had the limo traveling almost directly away from him. I saw that one tried 4 times and they only managed to get a hit once.

This is something everyone seems to forget or not be aware of when talking about another shooter. The conspiracy theory states that there had to be another shooter somewhere to the front of JFK due to his head movement and that shooter is often placed on the Grassy Knoll. However, as you say, the shot from the GK would be coming from JFK's left side at the time of the third and fatal hit.

There's a whole lot of suspect stuff surrounding the JFK assassination, but the shooting itself can be (and has been) traced clearly to have had been carried out by Oswald and Oswald alone.

[les green01]

the commie got off all three with two being hits if you watch the film done that day jfk head is starting to lean down and towards jackie the autospy photos shows entry back of the head right top exit right side of brain is complete gone while the left brain had no damage

this guy does a good job covering everything although he says the second shot was the neck shot not the first

[Otto Harkaman]

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. outlined his belief that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) were involved in his uncle JFK's assassination. He stated that disgruntled members of the CIA were angry at President Kennedy for his perceived betrayal during the Bay of Pigs invasion and his controversial relationship with Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev. Kennedy Jr. outlined a secretive line of communication established between his uncle and Khrushchev to avoid war, with an agent named Georgie Bochco acting as a courier. Kennedy Jr. even claimed that on the day of his uncle's assassination, Castro was meeting to discuss ending the embargo on Cuba, indicating that the assassination potentially disrupted peace efforts. Additionally, he added that President Kennedy had signed an order 30 days prior to his death, calling for all U.S. troops to return home from Vietnam.

Makes me think of Air America and the CIA


Look all the crazy stuff that happened under the Reagan administration with Intelligence Covert Military Ops intertwining multiple regions and operations to support themselves, Iran-Contra etc.

[Otto Harkaman]

[mapuc]

About the shooting the best evidence there is out there is Zapruder's 8 mm video clip.



Markus