Mass Shooting thread

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by MaDef

I definitely disagree with with that first paragraph, Age of majority under Federal law is 18, if you are old enough to vote and exercise other Constitutional Rights then you should also be able to avail yourself of the 2nd amendment.
The 24th Amendment pretty that makes wealth a requirement for exercising a Constitutional right a moot point (ie: a poll tax and or property requirement).

Drug and mental issues are addressed in title 18 USC. prohibiting certain persons from owning or purchasing a firearm, and most states go further with restrictions not to mention the new fad of "Red Flag Laws". (which I'm not a fan of, as the potential for abuse is very high).

Maybe the answer is to start prosecuting gun violations rather than classifying them as "mutual combat" (reference to gang shooting in Chicago 2021) or pleading them down/dismissing them in court proceedings.

A child having reached the age of majority (18 years) may currently purchase a firearm. I’m actually OK with that. My big concern is with attempting to prevent criminals like the Uvalde shooter from purchasing firearms. He was an irresponsible piece of trash going nowhere in life, living like a bum in his crackhead parents house with nothing else better to spend money on.

Reports suggest he had been previously arrested as a minor for planning a crime. Unfortunately a minors records are usually sealed. If he had to wait until 21 he would have a record that can be looked into. Either that make a minors arrest record available for background checks.

The age of license (21 years old) prohibits children from purchasing alcohol. I believe the same can be applied to the purchase of firearms.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

A child having reached the age of majority (18 years) may currently purchase a firearm. I’m actually OK with that. My big concern is with attempting to prevent criminals like the Uvalde shooter from purchasing firearms. He was an irresponsible piece of trash going nowhere in life, living like a bum in his crackhead parents house with nothing else better to spend money on.

Reports suggest he had been previously arrested as a minor for planning a crime. Unfortunately a minors records are usually sealed. If he had to wait until 21 he would have a record that can be looked into. Either that make a minors arrest record available for background checks.

The age of license (21 years old) prohibits children from purchasing alcohol. I believe the same can be applied to the purchase of firearms.

Ahh..... But you forget, the use of Alcohol is not a Constitutional right. There is a big difference.

As I understand it starting in June 2022, background checks do include Juvenile records, at least for 18-21 year-olds.

[Rockstar]

Maybe that’s the the case. In my opinion I see a difference between a right to bears arms and a right to purchase arms. Anyway, I’m gonna finish my meal now.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Maybe that’s the the case. In my opinion I see a difference between a right to bears arms and a right to purchase arms. Anyway, I’m gonna finish my meal now.

How does that work? there are 3 ways to acquire a firearm, as a gift, as a purchase, or steal it. seeing as stealing is illegal, and I don't see the Government "gifting" firearms to it's citizens. that leaves purchasing a firearm.

[Sean C]

Originally Posted by MaDef

there are 3 ways to acquire a firearm, as a gift, as a purchase, or steal it.

You forgot one: make it yourself.

[Rockstar]

Or obtain one through an inheritance, have one gifted to you by a family member or just use one that belongs to your mom and dad when you go hunting or to the range. They can also join the military.

I don’t think there is any constitutional guarantee which demands a privately owned company must sell you a firearm.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Or obtain one through an inheritance, have one gifted to you by a family member or just use one that belongs to your mom and dad when you go hunting or to the range. They can also join the military.

I don’t think there is any constitutional guarantee which demands a privately owned company must sell you a firearm.

What kind of Logic salad is that?

The Supreme Court has ruled that an individuals right to keep and bear arms is a constitutional right. District of Columbia vs. Heller:

the U.S. Supreme Court on June 26, 2008, held (5–4) that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to possess firearms independent of service in a state militia and to use firearms for traditionally lawful purposes, including self-defense within the home

You forgot one: make it yourself.

not entirely, there are currently 7 states that require serial # registration for so called "ghost guns".
Last Year (I think it went into effect in Aug), the Biden Admin implemented the "Frame and receiver rule", that states all frames, and lower receivers must have serial #'s and buyers must pass background check.