Pain in the back-Not what I had expected - Page 2

les green01 · 02-28-23, 05:18 AM

sorry to hear about your issues

Rhodes · 02-28-23, 05:56 AM

Best wishes for a full recovery!

Seen worse than Richard III...

mapuc · 02-28-23, 03:59 PM

Thank so much for your positive response.

I have never experience this before, where I'm in pain whatever I do or don't. Those times when I had Lumbago I could find positions where the pain was almost gone-Not here no

I got a mix of painkillers, however they only take around half to 2/3 of the pain.

Markus

vienna · 03-06-23, 04:26 PM

Sometimes a back pain can be indicative of conditions unrelated to the spine or connecting bone structure; I am currently taking medications that can possibly have adverse effects on the kidneys and my doctor has advised me, if I should happen to notice back pain, previously not experienced, I should immediately seek medical attention since such pain could be an indicator of incipient kidney failure; also, I had suffered from chronic pancreatitis at one time and when I had gall bladder removal surgery to remedy a sever case of gall stones causing the pancreatitis, I noticed that a long (years long) chronic back pain I'd had also disappeared after the surgery; I mentioned this to my doctor and he said pancreatitis often presents as a sharp pain in the upper back; it sometime pays to go a little deeper than just dismissing a situation as "Oh, its just another little back pain"...

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mapuc · 03-24-23, 03:42 PM

Got the result from the X-Ray earlier today.

I have Lumbar Compression Fracture between L3 and L4.

Can't be treated-As I've been told.

One of the thing I have to do is-Do as little as possible-Keep the daily activity as low as possible.

I also have to wear one of these clothes Woman used to wear under their dress earlier in our history. In Danish it's called Lændestøtte=Lumbar support

So it was not pelvis who had misaligned or shifted.

Markus

Skybird · 03-24-23, 04:05 PM

That sucks. Did they say whether it is a lasting or a temporary condition? I had to look up your issue by the term you used, there I read in most cases with injury as a cause it heals out after 8-12 weeks, but a bend in the back may remain, if caused by osteoporosis at least the pain gets less after some time. Did your doctors tell you anything?

Osteoporosis is mostly a women's issue, but men can get it, too, just not as often. Did you suffer an injury due to work, accident or sports, or is it osteoporosis-caused?

Gute Besserung anyway!

mapuc · 03-24-23, 04:20 PM

Thank you

I said to my doctor-It came slowly..not a sudden pain.

Further test will reveal the cause of it, if it's osteoporosis related

She will send a remiss to a specialist think you call them orthopedist

I'm awaiting a call from them.

Markus

Catfish · 03-24-23, 06:14 PM

This happens to all life walking on two feet or vertically. Be happy you do not live on a neutron star. As I learned in universities (in what they call paleontology) the advantages of upright walk are vastly overrated

Lumbar compression is only sometimes related to osteoporosis, it is just a compression of the "buffer" between the vertebrae. These cartilage 'buffers' are receiving and letting out all kinds of stuff to keep themselves 'up to the job' and elastic (by being compressed and decompressed – they "in- and exhale" in a way, so it is better to keep them in motion), but with age and stress they begin to suffer from malnutrition and lack of movement, and they may crack/fracture.

Have this myself. Went to a well-known surgeon, he told me that he would perform surgery if I wanted (good old german health system), but he would not advise to if not absolutely neceessary.
He literally said "I can do that but things will get worse after this. If you can stand the pain better let it be".
He advised to visit an orthopedist and the latter gave instructions to do some rest first for four weeks, and then to do certain exercises, which depend on which vertebrae are affected.
To cut it short I lost the symptoms within three months –

-> visit more than one specialist and have them look at the problem, gather information from more than one doctor.

Hope you get better. The danish health system is good or so I heard

Skybird · 03-24-23, 06:25 PM

Ah - Bandscheibenvorfall, now I understand, I mistook mapuc's issue with a fraction of the bone vertebrae itself. Damn english terminology, only existing to lead me into the wrong direction... You are lucky that its not me diagnosing you, Markus, if I would you would be more dead than ill by now.

Jimbuna · 03-25-23, 08:52 AM

You should be able to pick up a womans corset cheap enough on eBay

em2nought · 03-25-23, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

You should be able to pick up a womans corset cheap enough on eBay

...or at renaissance festivals.

02-28-23, 05:18 AM	#16
les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,784 Downloads: 1405 Uploads: 0	sorry to hear about your issues __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

02-28-23, 05:56 AM	#17
Rhodes Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Figueira da Foz, Portugal Posts: 4,520 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	Best wishes for a full recovery! Seen worse than Richard III... __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/

02-28-23, 03:59 PM	#18
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,546 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Thank so much for your positive response. I have never experience this before, where I'm in pain whatever I do or don't. Those times when I had Lumbago I could find positions where the pain was almost gone-Not here no I got a mix of painkillers, however they only take around half to 2/3 of the pain. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

03-06-23, 04:26 PM	#19
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,719 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Sometimes a back pain can be indicative of conditions unrelated to the spine or connecting bone structure; I am currently taking medications that can possibly have adverse effects on the kidneys and my doctor has advised me, if I should happen to notice back pain, previously not experienced, I should immediately seek medical attention since such pain could be an indicator of incipient kidney failure; also, I had suffered from chronic pancreatitis at one time and when I had gall bladder removal surgery to remedy a sever case of gall stones causing the pancreatitis, I noticed that a long (years long) chronic back pain I'd had also disappeared after the surgery; I mentioned this to my doctor and he said pancreatitis often presents as a sharp pain in the upper back; it sometime pays to go a little deeper than just dismissing a situation as "Oh, its just another little back pain"... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __ Last edited by vienna; 03-08-23 at 02:58 PM.

03-24-23, 03:42 PM	#20
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,546 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Got the result from the X-Ray earlier today. I have Lumbar Compression Fracture between L3 and L4. Can't be treated-As I've been told. One of the thing I have to do is-Do as little as possible-Keep the daily activity as low as possible. I also have to wear one of these clothes Woman used to wear under their dress earlier in our history. In Danish it's called Lændestøtte=Lumbar support So it was not pelvis who had misaligned or shifted. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

03-24-23, 04:05 PM	#21
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,697 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	That sucks. Did they say whether it is a lasting or a temporary condition? I had to look up your issue by the term you used, there I read in most cases with injury as a cause it heals out after 8-12 weeks, but a bend in the back may remain, if caused by osteoporosis at least the pain gets less after some time. Did your doctors tell you anything? Osteoporosis is mostly a women's issue, but men can get it, too, just not as often. Did you suffer an injury due to work, accident or sports, or is it osteoporosis-caused? Gute Besserung anyway! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-24-23, 04:20 PM	#22
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,546 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Thank you I said to my doctor-It came slowly..not a sudden pain. Further test will reveal the cause of it, if it's osteoporosis related She will send a remiss to a specialist think you call them orthopedist I'm awaiting a call from them. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

03-24-23, 06:14 PM	#23
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,799 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	This happens to all life walking on two feet or vertically. Be happy you do not live on a neutron star. As I learned in universities (in what they call paleontology) the advantages of upright walk are vastly overrated Lumbar compression is only sometimes related to osteoporosis, it is just a compression of the "buffer" between the vertebrae. These cartilage 'buffers' are receiving and letting out all kinds of stuff to keep themselves 'up to the job' and elastic (by being compressed and decompressed – they "in- and exhale" in a way, so it is better to keep them in motion), but with age and stress they begin to suffer from malnutrition and lack of movement, and they may crack/fracture. Have this myself. Went to a well-known surgeon, he told me that he would perform surgery if I wanted (good old german health system), but he would not advise to if not absolutely neceessary. He literally said "I can do that but things will get worse after this. If you can stand the pain better let it be". He advised to visit an orthopedist and the latter gave instructions to do some rest first for four weeks, and then to do certain exercises, which depend on which vertebrae are affected. To cut it short I lost the symptoms within three months – -> visit more than one specialist and have them look at the problem, gather information from more than one doctor. Hope you get better. The danish health system is good or so I heard __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

03-24-23, 06:25 PM	#24
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,697 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Ah - Bandscheibenvorfall, now I understand, I mistook mapuc's issue with a fraction of the bone vertebrae itself. Damn english terminology, only existing to lead me into the wrong direction... You are lucky that its not me diagnosing you, Markus, if I would you would be more dead than ill by now. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-25-23, 08:52 AM	#25
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,795 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	You should be able to pick up a womans corset cheap enough on eBay __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!