Turkey Devastated by Earthquakes - happening NOW

[Eichhörnchen]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-64537446

Looking very grim indeed

[August]

Terrible.

[Aktungbby]

...and they always seem to occur at an ungodly hour of the night when your snug in bed. 04:15 in this case; as opposed to 02:30ish in both of the Napa Quakes...2000 and 2014. In both tremors I immediately circled my own block with a gas-meter wrench sniffing for leaks and turning off meters as requested by the neighbors. The 2000 one epicentered 500 yards NW from my home and destroyed my solid brick chimney and rear stucco. The 2014 destroyed downtown Napa and killed people.The 7.9 Loma Prieta in 1989 epicentered and totally destroyed houses in the Santa Cruz Mtns, collapsed bridges in San Francisco and caused loss of life, both my principal real-estate appraisal territories. At least that was at a decent hour...17:00; as I was in my vehicle watching the street lamps sway violently before reversing course to speed back to our mid-Peninsula apartment to check on my newborn infant and her elderly Indian nanny. I later was approached by and dutifully surrendered my otherwise confidential appraisal files, with critical photos, of several years work to FEMA to assist mountain property owners in getting government assistance. No charge!

[Eichhörnchen]

^ How on earth do you manage to get buildings insurance out there?

[Jimbuna]

Each news flash brings with it an increase in fatalities

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

^ How on earth do you manage to get buildings insurance out there?

$$$$$$$ ...all of which translates to $1400 extra per annum, with a reasonable $40k deductable. I had noted in my 15 year appraisal career that home prices remain utterly unaffected by "acts of god"; and, as a review appraiser, countered several fraudulent appraisers who reflected otherwise...using their own altered report data; often in court as an expert witness. Most appraisers only do basic tract home stuff, not individual mtn homes on acreage, SF's classic mansions or "painted ladies" or 'celebrity architected properties'. These became my career niche; which I could charge more for and which others preferred to simply refer over to me. Being a history jock doing RE appraisal research was an easy transition. Avoiding bribes by desperate borrowers and making certain new construction, especially in the mountains, had all their permits was essential. Either one would immediately terminate my services. Earthquake insurance be damned; my errors and omissions appraisal insurance cost more...and I had to keep it up for five years even after switching careers to law enforcement to cover my a$$ during the 'statute of limitations' period as required under law.

[Platapus]

That area got hit with two Mag 7+ earthquakes in the same day.

[August]

Poor people.

[d@rk51d3]

Originally Posted by Platapus

That area got hit with two Mag 7+ earthquakes in the same day.

Checking the volcanoes & earthquakes app, theres been about 35 separate epicenters in turkey over the last 24 hours.

[Onkel Neal]

Man, the scale of destruction is mind boggling. Entire cities leveled. And I imagine many of the structures that are still standing will need to be condemned and torn down.

[Aktungbby]

...all this misery on top of the civil war that had already left 90% of Syrian dependent on government assistance. It will be interesting to see Bashir al-Assad "step up to the plate." in this massive civil crisis. Even Israel, the US, and Turkey, both enemies, are sending assistance along with Russia, China and Arab states... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/06/w...arthquake.html Syria is demanding control of all humanitarian aid...yeah right: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article...der-resolution

Throughout the protracted Syrian conflict, the Government of Syria has systematically manipulated humanitarian aid as a military tactic, a political bargaining chip, and as a means of self-financing. Consequently, since 2016 or earlier, independent analysts within the Syria crisis response have advocated to institutional donors that cross-line aid must be, at the very least, complemented by aid delivered through a cross-border modality. Although it remains a vital lifeline to opposition-held northwest Syria, the mechanism authorizing the entire UN-based cross-border aid architecture is now on the verge of collapsing in the face of a veto threat by Russia. Unless it is renewed through a UN Security Council vote by July 10, the cross-border system will be eliminated, and all UN aid will be delivered exclusively through Government of Syria areas. While aid practitioners are well-acquainted with incidents of aid manipulation by Damascus, such incidents are not common knowledge. As policymakers push for renewal of the cross-border mechanism, it is helpful to consider patterns of aid instrumentalization which demonstrate that cross-line aid delivery through Damascus — backed by Russia — cannot be effective or principled.

[Jimbuna]

Current death toll stands at a little over 5000 with some sources predicting an eventual total in excess of 20000

[Dargo]

In both Syria and Turkey, the death toll from the earthquakes has continued to rise. Altogether, the death toll is now at least 6,300. The latest information from Turkish authorities speaks of 4544 dead. That is over a thousand more than President Erdoğan had announced in the early afternoon. At least 1,800 people in Syria were killed in the disaster. That is over 100 more than in the previous update of the death toll.

[Jimbuna]

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is in the earthquake disaster zone in his country as criticism grows over the official response.

Families in some badly-hit areas have said the slow speed of rescue efforts means they have had no help digging through ruins to find relatives.

Erdogan acknowledged there'd been difficulties with the initial response but blamed delays on damaged roads and airports.

"We survived the earthquake, but we will die here due to hunger or cold," said a 64-year-old in Antakya, Hatay province.

More than 11,000 people in southern Turkey and northern Syria are now known to have been killed.

The White Helmets, who are leading efforts to rescue people in rebel-held areas Syria, say time is running out to save people.

Dramatic footage has emerged of rescues - one family of six were pulled alive from the rubble in the Syrian city of Idlib.

[mapuc]

Each time I see video clips from Turkey and all the demolished buildings following comes into my mind:

Sloppy construction-How many of these collapsed buildings have been sloppy constructed ??

I know the Turkish government implemented a kind of earthquake clause in the building rules-If I remember correctly they did this 20 or 30 years ago.

(the memory about this is faint..Don't hang me up on it.)

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