Bash the U.S. thread

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by NEON DEON

Maybe that way less posts would be hijacked

I agree: Steve Smith is certainly a viable prospect, but one cannot assume that his catch average will carry from season to season. Certainly, as gameplans change from year to year, other players (Kerry Colbert, for example) may see the QB looking to them more frequently, which means fewer balls for Smith. Consequently, I would put him in the first round, but by no means a first pick. I am still backing on a RB for mine, and you won't see me drafting a receiver until round three.

[Oberon]

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSLAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMM!!!!

There ya go, thread hijacked...give it a couple of days and it'll be a flame war, people will be throwing personal insults at each other, moderators will be called, people cautioned, people will leave or get banned and we'll all go back to normal.
Until next week...

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by Oberon

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSLAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMM!!!!

There ya go, thread hijacked...give it a couple of days and it'll be a flame war, people will be throwing personal insults at each other, moderators will be called, people cautioned, people will leave or get banned and we'll all go back to normal.
Until next week...

LOL!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Well I was thinking that "lets bash Islam" thread could have its own sticky too!

[Takeda Shingen]

Here we go again with Oberon and his ludicrous anti-wheat bread stance. If it were up to him, we'd all eat rye day in and day out. Who elected him God? I demand a recount.

No way that I'll eat rye, you fascists. Rye bread killed my father. Consider yourselved pwned.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

No way that I'll eat rye, you fascists. Rye bread killed my father. Consider yourselved pwned.

Do we get extra points for bringing the Nazis into it?
Right, so we've covered Islam, the US, Nazis...what else do we need?

[NEON DEON]

So, if you eat pumpernickel, do they throw you in a concentration camp?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by NEON DEON

So, if you eat pumpernickel, do they throw you in a concentration camp?

No, they throw you in MacDonalds!!!

If you, as I think you are, correct me if I'm wrong, want a thread specifically to show how terrible the United States devil is, I say let's do that. Wonderful idea. It'l give the folks a specific place to air their dislike for the United States.

The United States is filled with folks who either agree or dis-agree with the current position of the United States government. People from other countries really don't have a say in the administration's policy. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but the people of the United States spoke in two national elections. This is a republic not a pluralistic democracy. We elect our representatives to act on our behalf, and listen to the people who voted them to office. The citizens of the United States have made their decision, based on what they feel is in their best interest. We do not look at what the rest of the world thinks. Like all other peoples (and countries) we do what we feel is best for the United States.

[Kapitan]

Put it this way what on earth would it gain? ok not alot of people like the american government at the moment but thats our own personal opinionwe are entitled to it, a post like that would get out of hand too fast, and would bring the forum right down and thats not what we are here for.

Its easy to pick on some one alot of you guys take digs at russian ive never ever asked for a post like this its not because i dont see a need its because of respect, i admit openly im not fond of the american government i dont support it and i certainly wont serve it, but thats my choice i dont think debating it here is a good idea.

We are patriots in one way or another its going to be my country is better than your it has more tanks planes ships ect posts the little nitty gritty arguments that no one wins we all get upset the forum looses people and frankly i dont want nothing to do with a post like that.

Anti american or not! no country deserves a post like that.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Kapitan

Put it this way what on earth would it gain? ok not alot of people like the american government at the moment but thats our own personal opinionwe are entitled to it, a post like that would get out of hand too fast, and would bring the forum right down and thats not what we are here for.

Its easy to pick on some one alot of you guys take digs at russian ive never ever asked for a post like this its not because i dont see a need its because of respect, i admit openly im not fond of the american government i dont support it and i certainly wont serve it, but thats my choice i dont think debating it here is a good idea.

We are patriots in one way or another its going to be my country is better than your it has more tanks planes ships ect posts the little nitty gritty arguments that no one wins we all get upset the forum looses people and frankly i dont want nothing to do with a post like that.

Anti american or not! no country deserves a post like that.

I think we need two sticky threads then - a bash the America thread and an America bash the world thread! That way, us Americans can bash everyone else, and you guys can bash us, and everyone will be happy and talk about submarines in every other thread! :rotfl: :p

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by xrvjorn

Bash Islam thread? I thought this was the Bash Islam forum...

At first, I actually thought this was a subsim forum but that was my mistake. Well, I'll pop back in a couple months to see whether the national supremacy vibes on this site have decreased. Until then, it's off to the grownups at SimHQ. Bye y'all!

Bye Bye...don't forget your binky and blankie...
I voted yes...bash away.

What doesn't kill kill ya...

[P_Funk]

I find the implication that because so many people (on a forum with many different nations represented no less) have a dim view of self serving US policies which affect people all around the world it should then be characterized as US bashing an offensive implication. I don't see many people flaming pro-US posters but rather I see many unanswered arguments which are often very well substantiated with evidence. That these staunch patriots cannot synthesize any better counter-argument than to reject all criticism as unintellectual bashing is itself as bad as what is being implied. Plus whats so surprising about seeing a thread about world politics and events become about the US? Isn't the US heavily involved in alot of the stuff that happens in the Mid-East? Being the world superpower tends to lead to that. However that also means that alot of people are going tobe critical. SO whats wrong with that? All I see here is a bunch of blind patriots being petulant because they don't like their ignorant beliefs in Manifest Destiny being challenged and don;t want to have to actually justify them.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by P_Funk

I find the implication that because so many people (on a forum with many different nations represented no less) have a dim view of self serving US policies which affect people all around the world it should then be characterized as US bashing an offensive implication. I don't see many people flaming pro-US posters but rather I see many unanswered arguments which are often very well substantiated with evidence. That these staunch patriots cannot synthesize any better counter-argument than to reject all criticism as unintellectual bashing is itself as bad as what is being implied. Plus whats so surprising about seeing a thread about world politics and events become about the US? Isn't the US heavily involved in alot of the stuff that happens in the Mid-East? Being the world superpower tends to lead to that. However that also means that alot of people are going tobe critical. SO whats wrong with that? All I see here is a bunch of blind patriots being petulant because they don't like their ignorant beliefs in Manifest Destiny being challenged and don;t want to have to actually justify them.

Oh please! Get off your high horse already! Why don't you look at Canada as an example? We can go on about them for ages as well (My wife is Canadian - I'll have to beat up Canada when she is not looking however! We can start with the Le Québec Wa if you want - which is where I assume you are from by the way you talk, or at least East Coast Canada. West coast is too passive). Turn you sights on China, France, or any other country and you will find issues with all of them. The US is not perfect, but we don't take kindly to people blowing up our buildings, so deal with it. You could have the Soviet Union as your last remaining Super Power right now and they should have already walked across your border and made you part of it already.

-S

[August]

Don't take it personally Subman, America has always had it's share of critics, of both the foreign and domestic varieties. Thanks to the power of modern communications they seem far more numerous than in past times but I firmly believe they aren't, just more easily heard.

Personally i think all this invective is a good thing. The world is never going to love us, so we might as well not labor under the mistaken impression they do.

[scandium]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

The US is not perfect, but we don't take kindly to people blowing up our buildings, so deal with it.

-S

True enough - who does? Perhaps if you begin just from that single premise you might get an inkling of why there is an insurgency in Iraq, of why Hezbollah was formed during the Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon, etc.

Other people don't take kindly to having their buildings blown up either. But you have no capability to grasp this simple fact, which is why a majority of Americans supported the Iraq war and why so many people thought it would be a "cakewalk" with the Americans being greeted with flowers and candy.