Full Circle

KaleunMarco · 01-10-23, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

Now I'm back again seeking a similar solution. But this time it's getting SH4:WOTP to run on Windows 11. I have perused the threads pertaining to running SH4 on the Win 11. I keep coming up against a wall called the User Account Control. The UAC won't allow me to run SH4. So, I'm back here again seeking a solution that allows me to dive into the waters of the Pacific once more.

have to ask the table-stakes-questions, no offense intended:

have you reviewed the sh4.exe Properties and
1. unchecked the Read-only box
2. on the Properties-Compatibility panel, have you selected one of the older versions of Windows such as Vista or Win7?
3. assuming that you are an administrator on this PC, have you tried the Properties-Compatibility Run AS Administrator?

Lastly, (actually, this should be firstly) is SH4:WOTP installed in a folder not in \Windows folder which is the default?

unrelated to this, since we both live in the Chicago area, we should get together for a beer. Neutral site. send me a PM if you are game.

cdrsubron7 · 01-10-23, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

have to ask the table-stakes-questions, no offense intended:

have you reviewed the sh4.exe Properties and
1. unchecked the Read-only box
2. on the Properties-Compatibility panel, have you selected one of the older versions of Windows such as Vista or Win7?
3. assuming that you are an administrator on this PC, have you tried the Properties-Compatibility Run AS Administrator?

Lastly, (actually, this should be firstly) is SH4:WOTP installed in a folder not in \Windows folder which is the default?

unrelated to this, since we both live in the Chicago area, we should get together for a beer. Neutral site. send me a PM if you are game.

Yes, to all your questions. Even turned the UAC down a notch, but nothing has helped sofar. Thanks for helping.

propbeanie · 01-10-23, 12:17 PM

cdrsubron7!!! Excellent to see you again! I well-remember those SH1 days, with you and aanker and Hitman helping me out... Good people! - and those missions you made for SH1 - stellar stuff!

In addition to what KM says there, there is also the High DPI and related stuff. I will have to get a "fresh" picture for Win11, but the idea is still the same as from Win 7 & 10. In Win11, you might also have to deal with the scaling more, since Win11 is more invasive than 10 in that regard. Here is a picture from 10:

I'll come back in a bit with a Win11 screenie that would be similar. What kind of computer are you using though? My newer laptop with a 15", 1920x1080 resolution screen has the dad-blamed "Scale" set at 125%, which just absolutely trashes SH4, so I also use that "Program DPI" "Scaling" thingie on the top portion of the top winder there, and set it to when I open the application that it just does 100%. I'll have to go boot the laptop in order to get a grab though, and it is unavailable at this time, in use with another family member...

cdrsubron7 · 01-10-23, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

cdrsubron7!!! Excellent to see you again! I well-remember those SH1 days, with you and aanker and Hitman helping me out... Good people! - and those missions you made for SH1 - stellar stuff!

In addition to what KM says there, there is also the High DPI and related stuff. I will have to get a "fresh" picture for Win11, but the idea is still the same as from Win 7 & 10. In Win11, you might also have to deal with the scaling more, since Win11 is more invasive than 10 in that regard. Here is a picture from 10:

I'll come back in a bit with a Win11 screenie that would be similar. What kind of computer are you using though? My newer laptop with a 15", 1920x1080 resolution screen has the dad-blamed "Scale" set at 125%, which just absolutely trashes SH4, so I also use that "Program DPI" "Scaling" thingie on the top portion of the top winder there, and set it to when I open the application that it just does 100%. I'll have to go boot the laptop in order to get a grab though, and it is unavailable at this time, in use with another family member...

Same I've always used, a desktop.

KaleunMarco · 01-10-23, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

Yes, to all your questions. Even turned the UAC down a notch, but nothing has helped sofar. Thanks for helping.

i will give this more thought.
more than likely, it is a "setting" that is preventing it from running.

propbeanie · 01-10-23, 03:03 PM

Here's that Win11 screenie:

Since you have a desktop, you shouldn't have to mess with that "Scale" stuff, unless you are running a super hi def, or wide screen, such as 3840x2160 or the like, on a 27" or larger display. I'm certain you're aware, but if you are using a disk version of the game, be sure you install the DirectX9 and codecs, but NOT Game Shadow or the Acrobat Reader.

KaleunMarco · 01-10-23, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

be sure you install the DirectX9 and codecs, but NOT Game Shadow or the Acrobat Reader.

yeah, i forgot about this one.
i KNEW there was one more caveat!!!!

cdrsubron7 · 01-10-23, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

yeah, i forgot about this one.
i KNEW there was one more caveat!!!!

LOL, I'm not a complete novice. DX 9.0c and Codecs were installed first thing, along with SH4.

cdrsubron7 · 01-10-23, 04:16 PM

Still getting the same results as before, even with your help, pb.

01-10-23, 12:17 PM	#3
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	cdrsubron7!!! Excellent to see you again! I well-remember those SH1 days, with you and aanker and Hitman helping me out... Good people! - and those missions you made for SH1 - stellar stuff! In addition to what KM says there, there is also the High DPI and related stuff. I will have to get a "fresh" picture for Win11, but the idea is still the same as from Win 7 & 10. In Win11, you might also have to deal with the scaling more, since Win11 is more invasive than 10 in that regard. Here is a picture from 10: I'll come back in a bit with a Win11 screenie that would be similar. What kind of computer are you using though? My newer laptop with a 15", 1920x1080 resolution screen has the dad-blamed "Scale" set at 125%, which just absolutely trashes SH4, so I also use that "Program DPI" "Scaling" thingie on the top portion of the top winder there, and set it to when I open the application that it just does 100%. I'll have to go boot the laptop in order to get a grab though, and it is unavailable at this time, in use with another family member... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

01-10-23, 03:03 PM	#6
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Here's that Win11 screenie: Since you have a desktop, you shouldn't have to mess with that "Scale" stuff, unless you are running a super hi def, or wide screen, such as 3840x2160 or the like, on a 27" or larger display. I'm certain you're aware, but if you are using a disk version of the game, be sure you install the DirectX9 and codecs, but NOT Game Shadow or the Acrobat Reader. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

01-10-23, 04:16 PM	#9
cdrsubron7 Sink'em All Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 2,150 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 1	Still getting the same results as before, even with your help, pb. __________________ Head Deep and Keep'em Astern" - LtCDR Samuel D Dealy SHIV Guide \| Imperial Japanese Navy \| US Submarines