The Hunter

Oubaas · 01-03-23, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

New England Mountains is a most beautifully created reserve. I can only reocmmend to at no cost miss this one.

Its pure beauty.

All the game's reserves look great, but this one is a favourite of mine, beside the frozen Taiga.

Paws off my squirrels...!

I had to have it because it looks just like where I grew up, many years ago.

All the reserves are beautiful. Sometimes I hunt, other times I explore, and sometimes I ride the ATV like a mad man. I also collect weapons, calls, etc.

When I first started out, I hunted everything and took any game that looked reasonable. Now, I'm finicky. I only bother with trophies. And sometimes I go through periods of only hunting one species, usually Grizzly Bears.

It's a relaxing, slow paced game; perfect for when I don't feel like the usual military fare.

Skybird · 01-06-23, 08:30 AM

New game element spotted.

Skybird · 01-06-23, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Oubaas

I had to have it because it looks just like where I grew up, many years ago.

All the reserves are beautiful. Sometimes I hunt, other times I explore, and sometimes I ride the ATV like a mad man. I also collect weapons, calls, etc.

When I first started out, I hunted everything and took any game that looked reasonable. Now, I'm finicky. I only bother with trophies. And sometimes I go through periods of only hunting one species, usually Grizzly Bears.

It's a relaxing, slow paced game; perfect for when I don't feel like the usual military fare.

In Classic, you would have spoiled the hunt for trophies anyway if shooting everything that moves, because trophies were like high value assets : guarded by sort of a shield of "escorts". Shooting the escorts let the trophy escape, did not even let you know it ever was there. I think by tendency something like this is in place in COTW, too. But the much longer viewing distances help a lot, of course.

Myself, I focus on hunting males, trophies of any kind, I often spare the females, and I do like I think it would be done in reality. Highscores do not interest me. I never play the "missions". Nor am I overly concerned with ethical callibre choice, its enough if I get some money per kill to replace the ammo spent. Doing a clean shot is important for me. Plan to soon move more to arrows.

Like with any sim you get out what you put into it. Treat it like a game and hunt statistics, and your experience will lack simulative and situational immersion.

New England is a breathtaking map. I am enthusiastic about it. Beautiful. I absolutely love it, its changign colours and moods, the sights. It simply is a piece of art.

Have just bought a dog, due to the steam sale. Seems to work okay, but already starts to kill my nerves a bit. May be handy in some of the longer after searches.

I do not like the way you have to micromanage ammunition for every rifle and pistol, there is so many callibres and it makes buying the right one a real nuisance since you have to take some work to find out which ammo is for what rifle, even more so if the rifle has several ones. Some more automatization there for us non-experts on firearms and ca,llibre terminology would be welcomed.

Ran into an issue in Finland, when bagging dropped moose the game tends to crash when approaching the animal beyond maybe 50m or so. For me at least. Or it was area-related, I do not know.

The Mississippi map I found dissapointing by looks.

Oubaas · 01-06-23, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

In Classic, you would have spoiled the hunt for trophies anyway if shooting everything that moves, because trophies were like high value assets : guarded by sort of a shield of "escorts". Shooting the escorts let the trophy escape, did not even let you know it ever was there. I think by tendency something like this is in place in COTW, too. But the much longer viewing distances help a lot, of course.

Myself, I focus on hunting males, trophies of any kind, I often spare the females, and I do like I think it would be done in reality. Highscores do not interest me. I never play the "missions". Nor am I overly concerned with ethical callibre choice, its enough if I get some money per kill to replace the ammo spent. Doing a clean shot is important for me. Plan to soon move more to arrows.

Like with any sim you get out what you put into it. Treat it like a game and hunt statistics, and your experience will lack simulative and situational immersion.

New England is a breathtaking map. I am enthusiastic about it. Beautiful. I absolutely love it, its changign colours and moods, the sights. It simply is a piece of art.

Have just bought a dog, due to the steam sale. Seems to work okay, but already starts to kill my nerves a bit. May be handy in some of the longer after searches.

I do not like the way you have to micromanage ammunition for every rifle and pistol, there is so many callibres and it makes buying the right one a real nuisance since you have to take some work to find out which ammo is for what rifle, even more so if the rifle has several ones. Some more automatization there for us non-experts on firearms and ca,llibre terminology would be welcomed.

Ran into an issue in Finland, when bagging dropped moose the game tends to crash when approaching the animal beyond maybe 50m or so. For me at least. Or it was area-related, I do not know.

The Mississippi map I found dissapointing by looks.

I grew up in the Finger Lakes region of New York state, which looks pretty much exactly like the New England reserve. My family moved there from up in the Adirondack Mountains, which also look just like the New England reserve. Autumn can be very spectacular, when the leaves change color.

I try to stick with one shot, one kill. I've taken moose in the game with some very light calibers, one shot, but they were heart shots. I find something in the neighborhood of .30-06 to be a good all-arounder.

In real life, hunting Whitetail Deer (Odocoileus virginianus), you're apt to see the youngest doe first, followed by other doe, then young bucks. If you want a shot at the grand old man, you have to be patient and hold your fire. He's likely to be the last to come along. I suspect that it's probably like that with most species of cervids.

Skybird · 01-07-23, 07:09 AM

I have never been to the US, but there were one or two episodes in one of my all time favourite TV series, Spenser, that had their plots set in scenery in New England in autumn, and that series was famous for - at its time - extremely costly intensive out-of-the-studio shooting (which stopped it after season 3, due to the costs and despite its enormous popularity). Back then I stared at those images from New England forests in autumn and all I could think was "Wowh". Beyond the series, the autumn in New England is world-famous, and I assume that is for a reason.

I have the whole series on VHS, in long play, because the - excellently dubbed - German versions were never released in Germany. I am happy that back then I always invested into top quality VHS tapes by Fuji, so the image quality is okay to watch, and for VHS even extremely good, still, after so many years. The recordings must be around 25 years old. Quesiton is whether my two Panasonic VHS recorders still would work, especially the rubber rings I am worried about. - I know there are Engloish-.voiced DVD of Sopenser, but I want the German dub - believe it or not, its better, the text choices, and the speaker's voices. Cant get used to the opriginal voices and texts, they lack the laconic irony the German edition added, and Robert Urich's original voice was - well, his German speaker simply sounds better and more appropriate for Urich's physical appearance and style, same for Avery Brooks.

Oubaas · 01-08-23, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I have never been to the US, but there were one or two episodes in one of my all time favourite TV series, Spenser, that had their plots set in scenery in New England in autumn, and that series was famous for - at its time - extremely costly intensive out-of-the-studio shooting (which stopped it after season 3, due to the costs and despite its enormous popularity). Back then I stared at those images from New England forests in autumn and all I could think was "Wowh". Beyond the series, the autumn in New England is world-famous, and I assume that is for a reason.

I have the whole series on VHS, in long play, because the - excellently dubbed - German versions were never released in Germany. I am happy that back then I always invested into top quality VHS tapes by Fuji, so the image quality is okay to watch, and for VHS even extremely good, still, after so many years. The recordings must be around 25 years old. Quesiton is whether my two Panasonic VHS recorders still would work, especially the rubber rings I am worried about. - I know there are Engloish-.voiced DVD of Sopenser, but I want the German dub - believe it or not, its better, the text choices, and the speaker's voices. Cant get used to the opriginal voices and texts, they lack the laconic irony the German edition added, and Robert Urich's original voice was - well, his German speaker simply sounds better and more appropriate for Urich's physical appearance and style, same for Avery Brooks.

If you have a VHS deck and a PC with a DVD-writer, I think you can burn the VHS content onto DVD, preserving the German dub. My wife managed to copy a bunch of VHS tapes to DVD a few years back. I think she used RCA cables coming out of the back of the VHS player for video and audio, and somehow ran it into the computer, then burned it to DVD through some video editing software.

Skybird · 01-09-23, 07:42 AM

Yeah, I now it can be done, but its not worth the hassle anymore, maybe. Also, it would be a huge work time investment. Its three seasons, 9 tapes with 8 hours longplay content each. And blurry picture.

I will maybe watch the series one more time in my life. If it works in that run, its okay. If not, then I could not even copy it to HD or DVD anymore anyway.

Things start and things end. Anything has its time. I liked CI-5 The Professionals a lot, but when i looked back at it a few years ago I realised that I could not watch it anymore - I simply have moved beyond it.

Skybird · 01-22-23, 07:32 AM

I did not know that they put real world locations into the game!

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=2914699494

Threadfin · 01-23-23, 11:44 AM

I did indeed add two more DLC to my CotW install, the tents and blinds, and the ATV. The tent is handy on long hunts, or if real life suddenly intervenes, you can plop down a save point right here. Or swap loadout, buy ammo, whatever. The problem is it weighs 6 (kilos, pounds, whatever it is) and that limits other stuff you can carry and still keep under the "make more noise and be more visible" threshold.

This wouldn't be a big deal if the rangefinder sight for my bow wasn't so fookin' heavy. It weighs four times what a rifle scope does. Why?

I'm having a good time with Call of the Wild. I prefer the hunting sim in Way of the Hunter if I'm honest. It's just closer to what I want out of a hunting game when out in the field, tracking game, taking shots. But if I set that aside, the rest of Call of the Wild expands on what WotH is.

-- Maps/Reserves. No contest here. I can find little fault in the way the reserves in either game are done. Beautiful, huge, diverse. But Call of the Wild has so many more to choose from. Admittedly, some are not that much of a switch, like New England, Layton Lake District and Hirschfelden aren't that much different really. But they are still different maps, with some variation in populated game, and more so in Europe of course.

And while CotW does have all of these maps to hunt, they are individual DLC at 8 bucks a pop. Two reserves are included in the base game, and there are ten as DLC. Some gear is also behind these DLC paywalls, like the muzzleloader and .300 Win Mag rifle.

-- Animals. Again, CotW is a clear winner here in terms of sheer variety with more than 80 unique animal species to hunt. By comparison, WotH is around 20. Big difference, but expect that gap to close over time.

But WotH hits back when considering animal behavior and animations. It is much more convincing in this game than CotW. I've got hunting experience, and one spot Way of the Hunter is off a bit is how closely the animal herds stand and travel together. They should be more spaced out. I also find the way birds flush to be rather unconvincing in Way of the Hunter and I hope the devs look at these two areas to fine tune otherwise impressive animal behavior modeling.

-- Weapons and gear. Yeah, Way of the Hunter suffers here too. I might expect that this gap too will close over time. But it's not a given. Bows, crossbows and handguns give Call of the Wild diversity that Way of the Hunter cannot match. The bow hunting is fun too.

It's been out a lot longer, and like mentioned some of this kit is locked behind paywalls. It remains to be seen how WotH will handle expansion, but so far what's been added has been done for 'free'. And it's not just weapons, but callers, scents, blinds and stands and more that Call of the Wild has in abundance.

-- The hunting. This is what it's all about right? I have to give the nod to Way of the Hunter. It just feels more realistic to me. The stalking, animal behavior and shooting feels more like actual hunting. But when you step back and consider all the other stuff that surrounds it -- like the aforementioned maps, animal types, kit and gear -- the two games round out in about the same spot for me. If Way of the Hunter ever approaches Call of the Wild for sheer content, I think the choice between the two will be clear for me.

But that's a big if, and the way things stand right now I see plenty to like from both games.

Skybird · 01-23-23, 04:35 PM

Its best to collect DLCs ins ales, or buy special event packjs for cheap price.

Weight limits can be overocme a bit by using one of threew Rucksack, adding 3, 6 and 9 additonal kg to carry (at the price of additional noise profile, but I wonder to what degree scent and accoustics really are realistically modelled in COTW, beyond the obvious many bugs there also are).

I use a medium Rucksack, this way I can carry two rifles to cover the range of animals in thwe reserve, a pistol, medikit, scopes, ammo, bino, 2-4 caller, a tripod or treestand in needed, a tent. I do not like pistols for hunting, I always carry just the .454 for self defence, especially against buffalos. I have a buffalo trauma.

I used arrows more in Classic Hunter than in COTW. I dont know why this is so, it just happened. in CH, it was good with bows and xbows.

The tripod can be of use. The treestand not so much.

Skybird · 01-25-23, 08:21 AM

Who said Hunter Classic is "dead"...? They just released a new species, Wood Grouse, in Hirschfelden, Valle-de-Bois and Hemmeldal, and said they bring back to life an old feature from the past: live streams.

Threadfin · 01-25-23, 08:59 AM

Well it wasn't me

None of these games have Ruffed Grouse, which I grew up hunting. Those things would scare the bejeebus out of you when they flushed. All thunder and flapping wings in the heaviest cover. Good luck!

Good advice mate about waiting for a sale. And for some of the stuff I will wait. But some other stuff cannot wait haha. I've been looking to pick up a proper big game rifle. Something for class 9 animals. And then I can head off to Africa. At the mo, the only thing I have is the Drilling rifle, and that thing's not my style.

So the choice is either the .300 or the .338. One is locked behind DLC and both are expensive. So I've been trying to save my money, only buying ammunition when needed, and have 73k. A few grand more for the rifle and a couple boxes of ammo and I'll head off to Africa.

Which means I'll be buying the Yukon DLC to unlock the Canning. I've now hunted all the maps I have, which is six of them. There are twelve overall. I'll wait for a sale for the others I hope.

If the .338 were a bolt-action I'd get that one. Not a fan of break-action guns. Or side-by-sides for that matter. I do like over/unders, levers, bolts and automatics. Pumps are in the middle, having used a 20 gauge Winchseter for years. And actually, my very first gun was a single-shot break action 20 ga. It's what I learned with, took the hunter safety course with. You'd think I'd be fond of them, but nah

Having dropped a lot more time in to Call of the Wild I'm digging it. Some of the item locks are frustrating (like why do I have to have high mastery to buy small game arrows?) but overall it's a lot of fun. Took my longest shot (vitals) out to 321 yards last night. Elk dominate the top of my trophy table. Predators are a real trip in this game, getting attacked is common enough to keep you on high alert depending on the reserve. Shooting percentage is 90% and I hope to keep it there, but wolf packs cause panic don't you know.

The bow hunting is a lot of fun and the sheer variety of terrain and animals keeps it interesting as I bounce around the world. Call of the Wild is far more generous in terms of carry restrictions than Way of the Hunter. Generous, not realistic, as I was carrying a .308, .223, 22LR, .357 revolver and a compound bow on the hunt last night. Nice to have options haha.

Threadfin · 01-25-23, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Weight limits can be overocme a bit by using one of threew Rucksack, adding 3, 6 and 9 additonal kg to carry (at the price of additional noise profile, but I wonder to what degree scent and accoustics really are realistically modelled in COTW, beyond the obvious many bugs there also are).

I use a medium Rucksack, this way I can carry two rifles to cover the range of animals in thwe reserve, a pistol, medikit, scopes, ammo, bino, 2-4 caller, a tripod or treestand in needed, a tent. I do not like pistols for hunting, I always carry just the .454 for self defence, especially against buffalos.

Interesting. I bought the tents and blinds DLC, and it is great while exploring a new reserve, but once I have base camps unlocked all over the map the tent loses some of its value to me.

I'm not much for ambush hunting. Don't care for blinds or stands, that's not my jam. Just stalking, so the tripod and other infrastructure has been of no use to me yet. If there's one place I could see the tripod being good it's Medved due to the danger, and probably Africa for the same reason, but I have yet to hunt there. Which means I was wrong when I said I've hunted all six reserves I have. It's just five so far I guess. Hirsch, Layton, Silver Ridge Peaks, Medved and I tried Revontuli last night for the first time.

I'm not using callers or scents either, removed all of that from my loadout, which leaves plenty of room for weapons. Just straight stalking, upwind and that's plenty effective. I'm sure I could decimate herds with a caller, but that's not how I want to play. Single shot, single harvest, move on.

I have the night vision stuff, but didn't care for it so dropped that too. So on my last hunt I was carrying this, having dropped the tent

-- Binoculars. The most used piece of kit in the bag. This is what you walk around with, and only bring up your rifle when you've decided to shoot.

-- .308 Tarza. Magazine fed semi-auto. Looks like a military rifle, like a AR-10 or similar. The 4-8 class handles a wide range of game.
-- .223 Tarza. Just like above but chambered in .223. Class 2-3 rifle for fox, coyote and lynx sized animals.
-- .22LR. For class 1 game, of which there is plenty, especially in Revontuli. Lightweight and the ammo is too. Rabbits, birds, waterfowl
-- .357 Revolver. Close-in defense weapon, and I'd like to go with the .44 for this, but money's tight. All in due time.
-- Koter CB-65 Compound Bow. Bows can handle any size game, which is according to the arrow used, not the bow. But so far I've used it mainly for deer.

For ammunition it's all poly tip, and arrows are a mixed bag due to needing unlocks. Have not tried a crossbow yet. I need better shotgun options too.

There are a lot of animals in the game and I enjoy hunting them all, but I consider myself a whitetail hunter at heart and that's my main focus. I also use the .243, especially on Hirschfelden because it covers class 2-6 which is great on that map.

This link given by Skybird is gold

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=414347241

Skybird · 01-25-23, 11:42 AM

The drilling should be respected, its a beast, if handed properly, and useful especially in Africa and against buffalo in general. Those buffalos absolutely do not like getting shot at and not killed, and they let you know that. The drilling means a shot from longer distance, it then chases at you, and in that rush you give it another round. Short before it reaches you, you give it the single big callibre round for short distance.

I have been chased across all the map by angry buffalos, whole herds, that was a bug back then, and I do not know if meanwhile it got fixed. Be warned, however, expect everything. Meeting a buffalo at close range in high grass in Africa is also not a nice surprise, but can go terribly wrong, buffalos do not like the player to pop up close to them by surprise. Nor does the player like it after the first such experience.

Also, Africa has stampeding big herds. You may not want to stand in their way, you might get plowed under.

Simiiar warning for the wolves in Alaska. Shoot their Alpha and see the rest of the pack going after your throat, you need to then kill several of them, so have your rifles or pistols right. A single round weapon is not the best idea.

I recently read that the few scent sint he game currently are functionless anyway, but the opinions seem to be divided. In Classic, you can call (bigger range), then mark the spot you have chosen with scent, and then sneak some dozen meters away, scents reach not as far as callers. The animal approaches, gets attracted to the scent, and thats the time when it is where you want to have it. However, some sly foxes and coyotes and such may flank you and apporoach you cautiously form a direciton you abslutely did not expect. They are "clever", may not apprahc in astraight line.Othger animals may get distracted during their approach, and wander off. If calling too often, you may spook them.

You can find prey, move back a bit, set up the tripod or treestand, move forwardf again, call, move onto the tripod or treestand, and then wait. That might be a safe oiption against potentially dangeorus animals that might attack if getting wounded only. The accoustic side of things is not realistically simualted in thes egames, you can see it a bit more relaxed than you would in relaity.

Scent suppressor spray imo is not needed, I am not even certain that it has an effect. I used it only in Classic, and then only when hunting with a simple bow and needed to get real close. But staying out of sight I think was more important.

Its a game, many things are simplified. Still: very enjoyable.

Threadfin · 01-25-23, 01:42 PM

Yeah man, the wolves are no joke, but at least they circle you a bit before moving in. Tasting you in the wind I image. That brief respite lets you get your sh!t in order. I've died once so far. It was in Medved of course. Wolves took out half my health, and I killed two out of the pack with some wild, close-range scope shooting (this hurt my percentage lol).

Then, still at half-health, I started getting run over by moose and boars until I fell dead in the snow.

So when I returned I was ready. Wolves howling? Switch to the rifle, make sure it's fully loaded and then hope you're the one left standing. This time I took out two more and the rest scattered. And I didn't take a hit.

Africa's even worse I imagine, as the stuff is that much more deadly.

As for the Drilling, you are correct of course. I am not saying it isn't a capable weapon. Just that the style of the gun is not mine. There's always stuff like this for me in games. Like how I won't use side-by-sides if I can help it, or I won't recruit chariots in Total War games haha.

I think the .300 will be perfect for me. Bolt action, magazine fed so there're follow up rounds loaded. I've shot a Weatherby .300 and it's a hell of a rifle. Perfect forthis class of game and a style of gun that appeals to me.

01-06-23, 08:30 AM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,781 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	New game element spotted. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-07-23, 07:09 AM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,781 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I have never been to the US, but there were one or two episodes in one of my all time favourite TV series, Spenser, that had their plots set in scenery in New England in autumn, and that series was famous for - at its time - extremely costly intensive out-of-the-studio shooting (which stopped it after season 3, due to the costs and despite its enormous popularity). Back then I stared at those images from New England forests in autumn and all I could think was "Wowh". Beyond the series, the autumn in New England is world-famous, and I assume that is for a reason. I have the whole series on VHS, in long play, because the - excellently dubbed - German versions were never released in Germany. I am happy that back then I always invested into top quality VHS tapes by Fuji, so the image quality is okay to watch, and for VHS even extremely good, still, after so many years. The recordings must be around 25 years old. Quesiton is whether my two Panasonic VHS recorders still would work, especially the rubber rings I am worried about. - I know there are Engloish-.voiced DVD of Sopenser, but I want the German dub - believe it or not, its better, the text choices, and the speaker's voices. Cant get used to the opriginal voices and texts, they lack the laconic irony the German edition added, and Robert Urich's original voice was - well, his German speaker simply sounds better and more appropriate for Urich's physical appearance and style, same for Avery Brooks. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-09-23, 07:42 AM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,781 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I now it can be done, but its not worth the hassle anymore, maybe. Also, it would be a huge work time investment. Its three seasons, 9 tapes with 8 hours longplay content each. And blurry picture. I will maybe watch the series one more time in my life. If it works in that run, its okay. If not, then I could not even copy it to HD or DVD anymore anyway. Things start and things end. Anything has its time. I liked CI-5 The Professionals a lot, but when i looked back at it a few years ago I realised that I could not watch it anymore - I simply have moved beyond it. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-22-23, 07:32 AM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,781 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I did not know that they put real world locations into the game! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=2914699494 __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-23-23, 11:44 AM	#9
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,165 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I did indeed add two more DLC to my CotW install, the tents and blinds, and the ATV. The tent is handy on long hunts, or if real life suddenly intervenes, you can plop down a save point right here. Or swap loadout, buy ammo, whatever. The problem is it weighs 6 (kilos, pounds, whatever it is) and that limits other stuff you can carry and still keep under the "make more noise and be more visible" threshold. This wouldn't be a big deal if the rangefinder sight for my bow wasn't so fookin' heavy. It weighs four times what a rifle scope does. Why? I'm having a good time with Call of the Wild. I prefer the hunting sim in Way of the Hunter if I'm honest. It's just closer to what I want out of a hunting game when out in the field, tracking game, taking shots. But if I set that aside, the rest of Call of the Wild expands on what WotH is. -- Maps/Reserves. No contest here. I can find little fault in the way the reserves in either game are done. Beautiful, huge, diverse. But Call of the Wild has so many more to choose from. Admittedly, some are not that much of a switch, like New England, Layton Lake District and Hirschfelden aren't that much different really. But they are still different maps, with some variation in populated game, and more so in Europe of course. And while CotW does have all of these maps to hunt, they are individual DLC at 8 bucks a pop. Two reserves are included in the base game, and there are ten as DLC. Some gear is also behind these DLC paywalls, like the muzzleloader and .300 Win Mag rifle. -- Animals. Again, CotW is a clear winner here in terms of sheer variety with more than 80 unique animal species to hunt. By comparison, WotH is around 20. Big difference, but expect that gap to close over time. But WotH hits back when considering animal behavior and animations. It is much more convincing in this game than CotW. I've got hunting experience, and one spot Way of the Hunter is off a bit is how closely the animal herds stand and travel together. They should be more spaced out. I also find the way birds flush to be rather unconvincing in Way of the Hunter and I hope the devs look at these two areas to fine tune otherwise impressive animal behavior modeling. -- Weapons and gear. Yeah, Way of the Hunter suffers here too. I might expect that this gap too will close over time. But it's not a given. Bows, crossbows and handguns give Call of the Wild diversity that Way of the Hunter cannot match. The bow hunting is fun too. It's been out a lot longer, and like mentioned some of this kit is locked behind paywalls. It remains to be seen how WotH will handle expansion, but so far what's been added has been done for 'free'. And it's not just weapons, but callers, scents, blinds and stands and more that Call of the Wild has in abundance. -- The hunting. This is what it's all about right? I have to give the nod to Way of the Hunter. It just feels more realistic to me. The stalking, animal behavior and shooting feels more like actual hunting. But when you step back and consider all the other stuff that surrounds it -- like the aforementioned maps, animal types, kit and gear -- the two games round out in about the same spot for me. If Way of the Hunter ever approaches Call of the Wild for sheer content, I think the choice between the two will be clear for me. But that's a big if, and the way things stand right now I see plenty to like from both games. __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

01-23-23, 04:35 PM	#10
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,781 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Its best to collect DLCs ins ales, or buy special event packjs for cheap price. Weight limits can be overocme a bit by using one of threew Rucksack, adding 3, 6 and 9 additonal kg to carry (at the price of additional noise profile, but I wonder to what degree scent and accoustics really are realistically modelled in COTW, beyond the obvious many bugs there also are). I use a medium Rucksack, this way I can carry two rifles to cover the range of animals in thwe reserve, a pistol, medikit, scopes, ammo, bino, 2-4 caller, a tripod or treestand in needed, a tent. I do not like pistols for hunting, I always carry just the .454 for self defence, especially against buffalos. I have a buffalo trauma. I used arrows more in Classic Hunter than in COTW. I dont know why this is so, it just happened. in CH, it was good with bows and xbows. The tripod can be of use. The treestand not so much. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-25-23, 08:21 AM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,781 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Who said Hunter Classic is "dead"...? They just released a new species, Wood Grouse, in Hirschfelden, Valle-de-Bois and Hemmeldal, and said they bring back to life an old feature from the past: live streams. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-25-23, 08:59 AM	#12
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,165 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Well it wasn't me None of these games have Ruffed Grouse, which I grew up hunting. Those things would scare the bejeebus out of you when they flushed. All thunder and flapping wings in the heaviest cover. Good luck! Good advice mate about waiting for a sale. And for some of the stuff I will wait. But some other stuff cannot wait haha. I've been looking to pick up a proper big game rifle. Something for class 9 animals. And then I can head off to Africa. At the mo, the only thing I have is the Drilling rifle, and that thing's not my style. So the choice is either the .300 or the .338. One is locked behind DLC and both are expensive. So I've been trying to save my money, only buying ammunition when needed, and have 73k. A few grand more for the rifle and a couple boxes of ammo and I'll head off to Africa. Which means I'll be buying the Yukon DLC to unlock the Canning. I've now hunted all the maps I have, which is six of them. There are twelve overall. I'll wait for a sale for the others I hope. If the .338 were a bolt-action I'd get that one. Not a fan of break-action guns. Or side-by-sides for that matter. I do like over/unders, levers, bolts and automatics. Pumps are in the middle, having used a 20 gauge Winchseter for years. And actually, my very first gun was a single-shot break action 20 ga. It's what I learned with, took the hunter safety course with. You'd think I'd be fond of them, but nah Having dropped a lot more time in to Call of the Wild I'm digging it. Some of the item locks are frustrating (like why do I have to have high mastery to buy small game arrows?) but overall it's a lot of fun. Took my longest shot (vitals) out to 321 yards last night. Elk dominate the top of my trophy table. Predators are a real trip in this game, getting attacked is common enough to keep you on high alert depending on the reserve. Shooting percentage is 90% and I hope to keep it there, but wolf packs cause panic don't you know. The bow hunting is a lot of fun and the sheer variety of terrain and animals keeps it interesting as I bounce around the world. Call of the Wild is far more generous in terms of carry restrictions than Way of the Hunter. Generous, not realistic, as I was carrying a .308, .223, 22LR, .357 revolver and a compound bow on the hunt last night. Nice to have options haha. __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

01-25-23, 11:42 AM	#14
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,781 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The drilling should be respected, its a beast, if handed properly, and useful especially in Africa and against buffalo in general. Those buffalos absolutely do not like getting shot at and not killed, and they let you know that. The drilling means a shot from longer distance, it then chases at you, and in that rush you give it another round. Short before it reaches you, you give it the single big callibre round for short distance. I have been chased across all the map by angry buffalos, whole herds, that was a bug back then, and I do not know if meanwhile it got fixed. Be warned, however, expect everything. Meeting a buffalo at close range in high grass in Africa is also not a nice surprise, but can go terribly wrong, buffalos do not like the player to pop up close to them by surprise. Nor does the player like it after the first such experience. Also, Africa has stampeding big herds. You may not want to stand in their way, you might get plowed under. Simiiar warning for the wolves in Alaska. Shoot their Alpha and see the rest of the pack going after your throat, you need to then kill several of them, so have your rifles or pistols right. A single round weapon is not the best idea. I recently read that the few scent sint he game currently are functionless anyway, but the opinions seem to be divided. In Classic, you can call (bigger range), then mark the spot you have chosen with scent, and then sneak some dozen meters away, scents reach not as far as callers. The animal approaches, gets attracted to the scent, and thats the time when it is where you want to have it. However, some sly foxes and coyotes and such may flank you and apporoach you cautiously form a direciton you abslutely did not expect. They are "clever", may not apprahc in astraight line.Othger animals may get distracted during their approach, and wander off. If calling too often, you may spook them. You can find prey, move back a bit, set up the tripod or treestand, move forwardf again, call, move onto the tripod or treestand, and then wait. That might be a safe oiption against potentially dangeorus animals that might attack if getting wounded only. The accoustic side of things is not realistically simualted in thes egames, you can see it a bit more relaxed than you would in relaity. Scent suppressor spray imo is not needed, I am not even certain that it has an effect. I used it only in Classic, and then only when hunting with a simple bow and needed to get real close. But staying out of sight I think was more important. Its a game, many things are simplified. Still: very enjoyable. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 01-25-23 at 11:57 AM.

01-25-23, 01:42 PM	#15
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,165 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Yeah man, the wolves are no joke, but at least they circle you a bit before moving in. Tasting you in the wind I image. That brief respite lets you get your sh!t in order. I've died once so far. It was in Medved of course. Wolves took out half my health, and I killed two out of the pack with some wild, close-range scope shooting (this hurt my percentage lol). Then, still at half-health, I started getting run over by moose and boars until I fell dead in the snow. So when I returned I was ready. Wolves howling? Switch to the rifle, make sure it's fully loaded and then hope you're the one left standing. This time I took out two more and the rest scattered. And I didn't take a hit. Africa's even worse I imagine, as the stuff is that much more deadly. As for the Drilling, you are correct of course. I am not saying it isn't a capable weapon. Just that the style of the gun is not mine. There's always stuff like this for me in games. Like how I won't use side-by-sides if I can help it, or I won't recruit chariots in Total War games haha. I think the .300 will be perfect for me. Bolt action, magazine fed so there're follow up rounds loaded. I've shot a Weatherby .300 and it's a hell of a rifle. Perfect forthis class of game and a style of gun that appeals to me. __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?