Japan draws consequences

Skybird · 12-16-22, 11:46 AM

They plan to DOUBLE their yearly defence budget.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-64001554

Ostfriese · 12-16-22, 11:48 AM

This should not come as a surpise.
It's far more surprising that the Japanese waited that long, and it's to their credit that they have tried for such a long time to reason with China.

Jimbuna · 12-16-22, 03:35 PM

Hardly surprising.

Platapus · 12-16-22, 05:58 PM

The US needs to take immediate action in response to the unprecedented increase in Japanese defense spending!!!! We can not stand by and allow this to happen!!!

I hope we have preemptively sent sales people over to secure the new defense contracts.

Otto Harkaman · 12-16-22, 08:17 PM

Japan is the best counter to China to support. With Taiwan and South Korea having been at times under Chinese rule they are more susceptible to propaganda. It will be a long conflict of hearts and minds in the region.

Buddahaid · 12-16-22, 11:38 PM

In 2008 one morning when I was in China, air raid sirens started wailing and nobody could tell me what was going on. As it turned out, it was the anniversary of Japan invading so officially it's something that will never be forgotten, or forgiven. It will get attention.

Kapitan · 12-19-22, 06:52 PM

With the changes in the Japanese constitution and doubling their budget we may see a couple of carriers on the horizon.

Perhaps this is the way South Korea should go as well with their stalled CVX

August · 12-19-22, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

In 2008 one morning when I was in China, air raid sirens started wailing and nobody could tell me what was going on. As it turned out, it was the anniversary of Japan invading so officially it's something that will never be forgotten, or forgiven. It will get attention.

Officially not forgotten by a government that was not in existence when the Japanese invaded but took power over mainland China after the war in just as bloody a fashion.

Buddahaid · 12-19-22, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Officially not forgotten by a government that was not in existence when the Japanese invaded but took power over mainland China after the war in just as bloody a fashion.

Well Japan did sent over a giant golden Buddha so everythings even now.

Reece · 12-19-22, 11:23 PM

Yeh, that's the way I see it!!

Skybird · 12-20-22, 05:12 AM

A "couple of carriers"...?
I dont think so. Way roo personnel and ressoruce-intensive, consideirng they must be protected by escorts, manned with crews and pilots.
And China is obsessed with neutralising carriers' efficiency.

Japan is a high tech country. It loves robots. And thats what I expect to see: plenty of robotized platforms, in the air, on the sea, under the sea. Also long range missiles and cruise missiles, drones. Submarines. Also, amphibious land forces to defend the islands of theirs.

Also, Japan opened its labour market more and more in recent 20 years. It had to, since it lacked he needed employees its economy demanded - and this although every fourth pensioneer of theirs still works until age 80, due to age poverty. This tells me they will find it hard to fill all slots in the increased military they plan for.

Comparable problems in Taiwan, btw., which also had to increasingly allow foreign employees into the country to maintain its eocnomic boom

Kapitan · 01-04-23, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

A "couple of carriers"...?
I dont think so. Way roo personnel and ressoruce-intensive, consideirng they must be protected by escorts, manned with crews and pilots.
And China is obsessed with neutralising carriers' efficiency.

Japan is a high tech country. It loves robots. And thats what I expect to see: plenty of robotized platforms, in the air, on the sea, under the sea. Also long range missiles and cruise missiles, drones. Submarines. Also, amphibious land forces to defend the islands of theirs.

Also, Japan opened its labour market more and more in recent 20 years. It had to, since it lacked he needed employees its economy demanded - and this although every fourth pensioneer of theirs still works until age 80, due to age poverty. This tells me they will find it hard to fill all slots in the increased military they plan for.

Comparable problems in Taiwan, btw., which also had to increasingly allow foreign employees into the country to maintain its eocnomic boom

I don't think two medium sized dedicated carriers would be unreasonable they are going that way with the Izumo right now.

Something akin to what the Italians have could fit into their fleet quite well and with their technology you could see the crewing requirement less than what the French or Americans have something along the lines of the "lean manning" of UK carriers

nikimcbee · 01-05-23, 02:08 AM

For consumption in the North Korean news market, I'd release the story, that Japan has completed Mecha-Godzilla.

....and since I work for a Japanese tech company, I can neither confirm or deny it's existence....or not?

Skybird · 01-05-23, 03:34 AM

Boris Johnson's Halloween costume?

Reece · 01-05-23, 05:20 AM

Yeh!! the neck is about right!!

12-16-22, 11:46 AM	#1
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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,388 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	The US needs to take immediate action in response to the unprecedented increase in Japanese defense spending!!!! We can not stand by and allow this to happen!!! I hope we have preemptively sent sales people over to secure the new defense contracts. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Otto Harkaman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 1,188 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Japan is the best counter to China to support. With Taiwan and South Korea having been at times under Chinese rule they are more susceptible to propaganda. It will be a long conflict of hearts and minds in the region. __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm

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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,332 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	In 2008 one morning when I was in China, air raid sirens started wailing and nobody could tell me what was going on. As it turned out, it was the anniversary of Japan invading so officially it's something that will never be forgotten, or forgiven. It will get attention. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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Ostfriese Sea Lord Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This should not come as a surpise. It's far more surprising that the Japanese waited that long, and it's to their credit that they have tried for such a long time to reason with China.

12-19-22, 06:52 PM	#7
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,132 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	With the changes in the Japanese constitution and doubling their budget we may see a couple of carriers on the horizon. Perhaps this is the way South Korea should go as well with their stalled CVX __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

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Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,764 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Yeh, that's the way I see it!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

12-20-22, 05:12 AM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,697 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	A "couple of carriers"...? I dont think so. Way roo personnel and ressoruce-intensive, consideirng they must be protected by escorts, manned with crews and pilots. And China is obsessed with neutralising carriers' efficiency. Japan is a high tech country. It loves robots. And thats what I expect to see: plenty of robotized platforms, in the air, on the sea, under the sea. Also long range missiles and cruise missiles, drones. Submarines. Also, amphibious land forces to defend the islands of theirs. Also, Japan opened its labour market more and more in recent 20 years. It had to, since it lacked he needed employees its economy demanded - and this although every fourth pensioneer of theirs still works until age 80, due to age poverty. This tells me they will find it hard to fill all slots in the increased military they plan for. Comparable problems in Taiwan, btw., which also had to increasingly allow foreign employees into the country to maintain its eocnomic boom __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-05-23, 02:08 AM	#13
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	For consumption in the North Korean news market, I'd release the story, that Japan has completed Mecha-Godzilla. ....and since I work for a Japanese tech company, I can neither confirm or deny it's existence....or not? __________________

01-05-23, 03:34 AM	#14
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,697 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Boris Johnson's Halloween costume? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-05-23, 05:20 AM	#15
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,764 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Yeh!! the neck is about right!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*