Breakthrough in nuclear fusion?

mapuc · 12-13-22, 03:00 PM

Sit here and wonder...They(Skybird and Ostfriese) May very well be right what they have said(written)so why this huge amount of jungle drums sending this message to the world about the breakthrough and how huge it is.

Every homepage related to Science had an article about it today.

Markus

Skybird · 12-13-22, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Sit here and wonder...They(Skybird and Ostfriese) May very well be right what they have said(written)so why this huge amount of jungle drums sending this message to the world about the breakthrough and how huge it is.

Every homepage related to Science had an article about it today.

Markus

Because:

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Its a breakthrough scientifically and technically, but it is no breakthrough for practical implementation and economic use. A proof of concept, so to speak.

Another step on a long journey. A small step, with plenty of more steps needed after that, still each single one of them is necessary, leading to the next. Its like climbing unregular stairs with some steps being steep and difficult, others flat and comfortable. This one was a steep, difficult step.

Rockstar · 12-13-22, 03:36 PM

Hell, give me a can of Van Camp’s and a cigarette lighter and I can produce clean energy. But like nuclear fusion the hardest part is a matter of harnessing that power.

Platapus · 12-13-22, 05:32 PM

It is a tiny step but as already posted a step in the right direction. Many many years of experimentation await before this can be harnessed economically for power.

I am very happy we have smart people working on this.

Skybird · 12-18-22, 09:26 AM

https://www-spektrum-de.translate.go..._x_tr_pto=wapp

putting it into perspective.

Ostfriese · 12-18-22, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

https://www-spektrum-de.translate.go..._x_tr_pto=wapp

putting it into perspective.

In short for those who aren't good enough at German:

While at the core the experiment successfully released more energy than was put into it this is not true for the entire experiment. To put 2.05 MJ into it (getting out 3.15 MJ) the lasers require about 322 MJ of energy (which have been left out of the calculation alltogether).

Skybird · 12-18-22, 11:51 AM

So Google did not translate it? For me the link works?!

Ostfriese · 12-18-22, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

So Google did not translate it? For me the link works?!

Didn't work for me.
Probably caused by tha ad-blocker and/or the script-blocker.

mapuc · 12-18-22, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

So Google did not translate it? For me the link works?!

It worked fine here-But I made the choice to read the original-and used the translated where there was word I could not translate inside my head.

Markus

Buddahaid · 12-18-22, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ostfriese

In short for those who aren't good enough at German:

While at the core the experiment successfully released more energy than was put into it this is not true for the entire experiment. To put 2.05 MJ into it (getting out 3.15 MJ) the lasers require about 322 MJ of energy (which have been left out of the calculation alltogether).

Isn't the point to acheive sustained output after start up in the end? This at least shows that is possble to engineer now.

Ostfriese · 12-18-22, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Isn't the point to acheive sustained output after start up in the end? This at least shows that is possble to engineer now.

Yes to the first, no to the second.
The released energy needs to be in a different form to maintain a reaction (fast particles aren't gonna do it).

12-13-22, 03:00 PM	#1
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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,375 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	It is a tiny step but as already posted a step in the right direction. Many many years of experimentation await before this can be harnessed economically for power. I am very happy we have smart people working on this. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

12-18-22, 09:26 AM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,649 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	https://www-spektrum-de.translate.go..._x_tr_pto=wapp putting it into perspective. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,649 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	So Google did not translate it? For me the link works?! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.