Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[kpv1974]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

What of the security of the Ukraine, Poland, Germany..... The list goes on. You seem to forget the history of the USSR in subjugating it neighbors for decades. It has been only Russia that threatens the world with Nuclear war. You must know if that happens, Russia is signing it's own death warrant as the U.S and other countries will respond with their own Nuclear weapons. Chances are, both you and I and millions of others will die in the exchange of weapons and Nuclear fallout. Does that sound good to you ? Putrid's threats of Nuclear war are only an example of his military's incompetence and ineptitude.

Putrid has decried the loss of the greater " Soviet Union." In truth, because of the political system there, Russia has never been more than a large third world country and Autocracy. Putrid wants to reclaim those countries that formed the former" Warsaw Pact " forces. You must know this will never happen and those former countries will go after Russia with a vengeance if Putrid makes a move on them.

The United States has nothing to do with this. These countries decided they love liberty, freedom and the right to think for themselves. They have an inalienable right to do that. If you like living in Russia and being led around by the nose and having others do your thinking for you, that's your right as well. Good luck with that.

The Ukraine reserves the right to have and maintain it's freedom as well. Only a small man and dictator like Putrid would have an issue with that. One thing is certain. The countries that had been subjugated by Russia will never return to the fold. You and Russia will see war up close and personal if you decide to try to reclaim those countries. The Ukraine is an example of this.

If you don't like what is happening in Russia, show some courage and remove him or take him out. That's a problem and decision for the people of Russia. If you do like what Russia is doing, then live with the consequences.

Do not make me laugh - free countries. Yes, they cannot sneeze without the approval of overseas owners.
From whom did they become free? From Russia? Well, so they became under the protectorate of the United States.
Poland was raised financially entirely at the expense of the United States. It was a reward for the fact that the Poles were the first to break out of the socialist ghetto.
The other countries of the Warsaw bloc did not receive any money. On the contrary, all the assets were taken by the Americans. For example Bulgaria - the energy sector was completely bought out by American companies.

At the moment - the locomotive of Europe is Germany. German technology (as well as the famous German ordnung), coupled with cheap Russian resources, the Americans cannot allow this.
And someone is slipping onto the path of industrial terrorism in order to tear Germany away from cheap Russian resources.
It would be naive to think that the gas pipelines were blown up at the direction of Putin. If this were true, the entire "free press" of the world would trumpet it on every corner.
the Swedes investigated the sabotage, but they are afraid to announce the results of the investigation. Here are the "free" countries.

PS: "Italian politician, journalist and former MEP Giulietto Chiesa previously reported that the lands of five regions of Ukraine were sold for 50 years with the right to extend the lease (that is, forever, as he put it) to Anglo-Dutch Shell and American Chevron."

just business, nothing personal...

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine will receive even more macro-financial aid from EU by end of year, - von der Leyen

Ukraine will continue to receive new tranches of macro-financial assistance from the European Union.

The President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, announced this on Twitter, Censor.NET informs.

"Today we are providing Ukraine with 2 billion euros of macro-financial assistance. Even more will be provided by the end of the year. We will be by Ukraine's side as long as it is needed. We will discuss how to ensure stable financial support with global partners at the conference," the message reads. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374578

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by kpv1974

Do not make me laugh - free countries. Yes, they cannot sneeze without the approval of overseas owners.
From whom did they become free? From Russia? Well, so they became under the protectorate of the United States.
Poland was raised financially entirely at the expense of the United States. It was a reward for the fact that the Poles were the first to break out of the socialist ghetto.
The other countries of the Warsaw bloc did not receive any money. On the contrary, all the assets were taken by the Americans. For example Bulgaria - the energy sector was completely bought out by American companies.

At the moment - the locomotive of Europe is Germany. German technology (as well as the famous German ordnung), coupled with cheap Russian resources, the Americans cannot allow this.
And someone is slipping onto the path of industrial terrorism in order to tear Germany away from cheap Russian resources.
It would be naive to think that the gas pipelines were blown up at the direction of Putin. If this were true, the entire "free press" of the world would trumpet it on every corner.
the Swedes investigated the sabotage, but they are afraid to announce the results of the investigation. Here are the "free" countries.

PS: "Italian politician, journalist and former MEP Giulietto Chiesa previously reported that the lands of five regions of Ukraine were sold for 50 years with the right to extend the lease (that is, forever, as he put it) to Anglo-Dutch Shell and American Chevron."

just business, nothing personal...

I will anxiously await while you post some empirical evidence and proof to back up your claims.

[Jimbuna]

Germany will continue to supply weapons and military equipment to Ukraine, - Berbok

Ukraine will continue to receive weapons and military equipment from Germany. Next to other help.

This was stated by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Germany, Annalena Berbok, at the Berlin Foreign Policy Forum on October 18, Censor.NET informs with reference to Ukrinform.

"We will continue to intensively support Ukraine with weapons... We will also support Ukraine humanitarianly, politically, and financially as long as necessary," the minister said.

According to the Minister of Foreign Affairs, this is a condition of joint security and insurance. In addition, this is not just a matter of protecting people in Ukraine, it is a matter of solidarity.

Burbok noted that it is possible to talk with Russia only from the standpoint of a strong democracy. Europe, the West cannot be as naive as in 2014.

"With his 'referendums', Putin made it clear that he is not looking for a way out of the war... Putin is not mobilizing groups for negotiations, he is mobilizing soldiers for the war in Ukraine," the German minister emphasized.

Russian soldiers commit the worst crimes in the occupied territories. Berbok also reminded about Putin's goals - complete capture of Ukraine. She noted that there can be no peace and security for Europe at the moment together with this Putin's Russia.

Burbok assured that Germany's eastern neighbors in the EU and NATO can count on Berlin, which, unfortunately, did not listen to them very carefully before, in particular about the threat from Russia, as well as dependence on Russian energy carriers, which made Germany vulnerable, about an object for blackmail.

"We must not repeat the mistakes. We must not become dependent again," Burbok concluded. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374595

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine breaks diplomatic relations with Iran, - Kuleba

Minister of Foreign Affairs Dmytro Kuleba initiated the break in diplomatic relations between Ukraine and Iran.

This was announced by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmytro Kuleba during a briefing, Censor.NET informs.

"Taking into account the numerous destructions caused by Iranian drones to the civilian infrastructure of Ukraine, the deaths and sufferings caused to our people, as well as in connection with the reports about the possible continuation of Iran's supply of weapons to Russia, I am submitting to the president a proposal to break diplomatic relations with Iran", - he noted.

Until now, Ukraine has never taken an anti-Iranian position.

"But after Iran became a participant in the crime of aggression, today we will take a very clear and honest position. If Iran stops supplying Russia with weapons, we will talk about restoring relations," the minister added.

Kuleba also called on Europe to introduce sanctions against Iran. He made a corresponding statement at a meeting of ministers of the European Union. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374601

[Skybird]

30% of Ukraines powerplants have been destroyed, says Selenskji.

Winter is coming.

Iranian drones are cheaper than Russian missiles, I read.

The Ukrainian offensive looks to slow down, and has slowed down. The Russians are consolidating their position, somehow, a little bit, but steadily.

They are playing for time, waiting for winter - to see what winter will do for them and will do to the Ukrainians. Russian soldiers may be ill-equipped for winter, but Russian governments have never cared for their soldiers. Ukrainian civilian population is not well equipped for winter too, if powerplants are destroyed.

In the end the psychopath in the Kremlin ticks by the logic of that if he cannot have it, he nevertheless can destroy it. It resists his will, so it deserves to be punished.

[mapuc]

Day 237 of my 3 day war. Ukraine doesn't need Western air defense systems as my air force can crash on its own.

I remain a master strategist.

https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/st...62165272072192

Markus

[kpv1974]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

I will anxiously await while you post some empirical evidence and proof to back up your claims.

I will answer your empirical statements that Russia is a 3rd world country (yes, call it at least a tenth country).
A country with nuclear, space technologies, somehow does not fit into the 3rd world system.
Underestimating the opponent leads to very sad consequences, do not forget this.
Interesting, but American bombers over Kyiv and dozens of combat helicopters - of course, the Americans have nothing to do with it.
In 1962, the Americans really did not like the proximity of Russian missiles to Cuba.
Russians should like bombers near their borders?
Or is it "other"?
Shaking weapons does not lead to anything good. When the big batch begins, there will be no good or bad. Everyone will get full.

PS: Вefore you blame all the evil on Putin, look back at your politicians. At the same time, I will repeat once again - I am in no way shielding Putin.
Your politicians are also to blame for this crisis.

The basis of the Bulgarian energy sector was the three thermal power plants "Maritsa-Vostok" and the nuclear power plant "Kozloduy", built by Soviet specialists. In 2001, the Bulgarian government of Ivan Kostov handed over the Maritsa-Vostok 1 and Maritsa-Vostok 3 CHPPs to the American electric giants AES and СontourGlobal. At the same time, the state undertook to buy from them all the electricity produced at ultra-high prices over the next 15 years. Later, under pressure from Washington, the project of the second Belene nuclear power plant was closed, and then at the negotiations on joining the EU, the country was given a condition - to close the existing Kozloduy power plant. As a result, four out of six nuclear power plants were shut down, and Bulgaria, in accordance with EU regulations, was forced to buy "green" electricity (solar-powered stations also belong to the Americans, who invested more than 1 billion euros in them) at a price 10 times higher than that on which it was produced at Kozloduy, and is 15 times more expensive than nuclear power. Ultimately, this made the country even more dependent on foreign subsidies, since Bulgaria was not able to cover the additional costs that appeared on its own.
Read more: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2018/03/...lkany-chast-iv

[August]

This isn't just about Putin.

The Russian people put this monster into power, made him President for Life and they continue to support his increasingly dictatorial regime in spite of his obvious imperialistic attempts to swallow up their neighbors, so I do not differentiate between the head of the snake and the rest of the body that keeps it alive. It's all one slimy serpent of brutish thuggery to me and has been since the days of the Czar regardless of which regime is currently in power.

When an increasingly similar tyrant named hitler talked about "Lebensraum" it wasn't just some extra room for the teeming masses of German Volk to spread out in but a ruthless attempt to steal the same natural resources that the Russian criminals are now attempting to capture themselves. Whether it is Crimean Oil, Ukrainian Wheat or mineral resources both fuhrers seek the same thing and both are quite willing to cleanse the land of the Ukrainians living on it.

Best that the Russians are stopped now or we'll be seeing the same thing happen again further eastward.

[Jimbuna]

Covert mobilization is taking place in Belarus, - General Staff

Covert mobilization of the Armed Forces continues in Belarus under the guise of training sessions.

As Censor.NET informs, this is reported on the official Facebook page of the General Staff.

"The Republic of Belarus continues to support the armed aggression of the Russian Federation against Ukraine, providing its infrastructure and airspace. There remains the threat of missile and air strikes, as well as the use of the Shahed-136 attack UAV from the territory of the Republic of Belarus. Under the guise of training sessions, covert mobilization of the armed forces continues Belarus. According to available information, measures are being taken to train operators of anti-aircraft missile systems and tank crews," the message states. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374670

[Jimbuna]

EU agreed on new sanctions against Russia and Belarus, - Jozvyak

The European Union agreed on further sanctions against Russia and Belarus.

This was reported on Twitter by Rikard Jozvyak, the correspondent of Radio Liberty in Brussels, Censor.NET informs.

"It seems that the EU has reached a common consensus on further sanctions against Russia (although not on energy) and Belarus," he said.

According to Jozwiak, work on sanctions is expected to be accelerated in the coming days. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374645

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by kpv1974

I will answer your empirical statements that Russia is a 3rd world country (yes, call it at least a tenth country).
A country with nuclear, space technologies, somehow does not fit into the 3rd world system.
Underestimating the opponent leads to very sad consequences, do not forget this.
Interesting, but American bombers over Kyiv and dozens of combat helicopters - of course, the Americans have nothing to do with it.
In 1962, the Americans really did not like the proximity of Russian missiles to Cuba.
Russians should like bombers near their borders?
Or is it "other"?
Shaking weapons does not lead to anything good. When the big batch begins, there will be no good or bad. Everyone will get full.

PS: Вefore you blame all the evil on Putin, look back at your politicians. At the same time, I will repeat once again - I am in no way shielding Putin.
Your politicians are also to blame for this crisis.

The basis of the Bulgarian energy sector was the three thermal power plants "Maritsa-Vostok" and the nuclear power plant "Kozloduy", built by Soviet specialists. In 2001, the Bulgarian government of Ivan Kostov handed over the Maritsa-Vostok 1 and Maritsa-Vostok 3 CHPPs to the American electric giants AES and СontourGlobal. At the same time, the state undertook to buy from them all the electricity produced at ultra-high prices over the next 15 years. Later, under pressure from Washington, the project of the second Belene nuclear power plant was closed, and then at the negotiations on joining the EU, the country was given a condition - to close the existing Kozloduy power plant. As a result, four out of six nuclear power plants were shut down, and Bulgaria, in accordance with EU regulations, was forced to buy "green" electricity (solar-powered stations also belong to the Americans, who invested more than 1 billion euros in them) at a price 10 times higher than that on which it was produced at Kozloduy, and is 15 times more expensive than nuclear power. Ultimately, this made the country even more dependent on foreign subsidies, since Bulgaria was not able to cover the additional costs that appeared on its own.
Read more: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2018/03/...lkany-chast-iv

So, in other words, you have nothing to back up your baseless claims other than your words. I should add that I expected you would have some proof from a reputable international source or clearing house of your claims.



I expected as much.

[Jimbuna]

As result of shelling on October 18, six energy facilities were damaged in Ukraine - Shmyhal

Russian occupation forces have been trying to destroy the Ukrainian energy system for more than a week. Prime Minister of Ukraine Denys Shmyhal stated this at a government meeting on October 18

As Censor.NET informs, the website of the Cabinet of Ministers reports this.

"Russian troops continue their terror and attacks on the critical infrastructure of Ukraine. For more than a week, they have been trying to destroy our energy system. During this time, several dozen energy facilities were damaged," Shmyhal said.

According to Shmyhal, on October 18, the Russian Federation attacked Ukrainian energy infrastructure facilities in Zhytomyr, Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv, Mykolaiv, Donetsk regions and in Kyiv.

"Six energy facilities were damaged. In the morning, Zhytomyr and a number of settlements in the region, the left-bank part of Kyiv were cut off. Work is now underway to restore the power supply," he added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374675

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by kpv1974

Do not make me laugh - free countries. Yes, they cannot sneeze without the approval of overseas owners.
From whom did they become free? From Russia? Well, so they became under the protectorate of the United States.
Poland was raised financially entirely at the expense of the United States. It was a reward for the fact that the Poles were the first to break out of the socialist ghetto.
The other countries of the Warsaw bloc did not receive any money. On the contrary, all the assets were taken by the Americans. For example Bulgaria - the energy sector was completely bought out by American companies.

At the moment - the locomotive of Europe is Germany. German technology (as well as the famous German ordnung), coupled with cheap Russian resources, the Americans cannot allow this.
And someone is slipping onto the path of industrial terrorism in order to tear Germany away from cheap Russian resources.
It would be naive to think that the gas pipelines were blown up at the direction of Putin. If this were true, the entire "free press" of the world would trumpet it on every corner.
the Swedes investigated the sabotage, but they are afraid to announce the results of the investigation. Here are the "free" countries.

PS: "Italian politician, journalist and former MEP Giulietto Chiesa previously reported that the lands of five regions of Ukraine were sold for 50 years with the right to extend the lease (that is, forever, as he put it) to Anglo-Dutch Shell and American Chevron."

just business, nothing personal...

1911-44. tannu-tuva tries to leave Russian Colonialism. Moscow stages a coup, installs a puppet regime, starts cultural erasure, sends ethnically Russian settler colonialists, forces Tuva to grant them citizenship and eventually annexes the country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvan_People%27s_Republic
1916-34. Central Asian nations try to leave Russian Colonialism. Moscow invades to 'protect from violence’ & to 'civilize.' Bukhara, one of the world's oldest cities, bombed to the ground. Tens of thousands slaughtered in pogroms and ethnic cleansing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basmachi_movement
1917-53. Ukraine is leaving Russian Colonialism. Moscow invades to ‘stop violence’, spends years on a mass murder spree across the country, stokes unrest, and eventually occupies it. Kremlin uses the Holodomor genocide, mass terror to crush the resistance https://holodomormuseum.org.ua/en/
1917-20. Azerbaijan leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow manufactures fakes about mass murders and invades ‘to stop violence.’ tens of thousands were slaughtered in the following terror https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Ar..._of_Azerbaijan
1917-20. Armenia leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow invades 'to protect from impending genocide.' in practice, it means dissolving the republic and occupying it https://communistcrimes.org/en/countries/armenia
1917-24. Georgia leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow stages ethnic violence and invades to ‘protect itself.’ Russians execute thousands, deport 20,000+ in ethnic cleansing https://georgianjournal.ge/society/3...-red-army.html https://civil.ge/archives/397042/amp
1917-45. North Caucasus leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow stages ethnic violence, invades to ‘stop it.’ Russians deploy a series of genocides and mass deportations in the following two decades, killing hundreds of thousands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mounta...thern_Caucasus
1917-21. Bashkortostan leaves Russian Colonialism, becomes the world's first Muslim democracy. Moscow stokes internal divisions, lures into a military union with fake promises of preserving the democracy, mass murders the elites and then absorbs it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashki...7%E2%80%931919)
1917-20. Estonia leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow assembles pro Russian Estonian paramilitary forces, a puppet Estonian leadership, and invades to ‘protect Estonian opposition.’ Estonians kick Russians out

1917-44. Indigenous nation of Crimean Tatars leaves Russian Colonialism, set up the 2nd-ever Muslim democracy. Moscow invades 'to protect opposition,' executes 33-yo president Numan Celebicihan. Genocide, deportations kill every 2nd Crimean Tatar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_People's_Republic
1917-20. Ukrainians of don/kuban’ leave Russian Colonialism, set up democracies. Russians stoke internal political/ethnic divisions, assassinate political leadership, invade to 'protect itself.' Moscow ethnically cleanses and Russifies the region https://babel.ua/en/texts/76760-104-...re-s-its-story
1917-18. Idel-Ural tries to leave Russian Colonialism. A Tatar proto-republic had one of the world's 1st democratic Muslim parliaments. Moscow stokes internal ethnic divisions, kidnaps MPs, invades, starves almost a third of local population to death https://idel-ural.org/en/
1917-53. Belarus leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow creates a puppet state, invades to ‘’liberate’. A Small Belarusian army resists Kremlin forces for over a month on a heroic suicide mission, but loses. 600k+ killed in ethnic cleansing https://communistcrimes.org/en/countries/belarus
1917-53. Moldova leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow stokes the divide, invades to ‘liberate.' neighboring Romania kicks Russians out, absorbs Moldova. Russians reoccupy it in 1940 via pact with Hitler. Tens of thousands killed/deported https://communistcrimes.org/en/countries/belarus
1917-43. The indigenous nation of Kalmyks leaves Russian Colonialism, joins anti-colonial coalition of Ukrainian Cossack and northern Caucasian states. Moscow invades, punishes Kalmyks with controlled starvation, deports entire nation, killing every third https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr...-long-goodbye/
1917-37. Indigenous nation of Buryats leaves Russian Colonialism. Russians infiltrate buryat-mongolia government, stoke divide, disband it. Moscow occupies the state to “civilize it out of feudalism.” tens of thousands are slaughtered, become refugees https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr...-long-goodbye/
1918-20. Latvia leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow creates a competing puppet government, manufactures a ‘civil war’ narrative to legitimize the invasion, but Latvians kick Russians out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvia...f_Independence
1918-20. Lithuania leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow breaks post-ww1 treaty that guaranteed Lithuanian independence, creates a puppet state to legitimize the invasion, orchestrates a coup, but Lithuanians push back https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithua...f_Independence
1918-22. Karelia launches anti-Russian Colonialism uprising. Moscow lies it is a foreign incursion, invades, bans democratically-elected assembly, creates a puppet govt. hundreds slaughtered, approx 30,000 became refugees, local language/culture banned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Karelian_uprising
1918-24. Indigenous Evenki people leave Russian Colonialism amid mass terror and cultural erasure. Moscow lures the republic into ceasefire with fake autonomy promises, then mass slaughters the leadership https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungus_Republic
1918-27. Indigenous nation of Sakha leaves Russian Colonialism. Russians fuel the internal divide. Moscow creates a competing puppet republic and recolonizes the state. Mass murder of local elites and settler colonialism turn Sakha into a 33% minority https://ojs.lib.uwo.ca/index.php/iipj/article/view/8269
1921-39. Mongolia is trying to leave Chinese colonialism, asks international help. Russians insert themselves into domestic infighting, invade to 'liberate from feudalism’, bring the country into colonial subjugation. Moscow orchestrated terror kills 30k+ https://communistcrimes.org/en/countries/mongolia
1931-33. Indigenous nation of Khanty tries to leave Russian Colonialism after centuries of exploitation, cultural erasure. Moscow drowns anti-colonial uprising in blood, decimating local indigenous villages with aircraft artillery and machine guns https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazym_rebellion
1932. indigenous nation of dolgans tries to leave Russian Colonialism, sick of economic exploitation, cultural erasure. Moscow lures the nation into a ceasefire with fake promises of autonomy, later murders uprising leaders https://tol.org/client/article/cold-...as-arctic.html
1934-43. Indigenous nation of nenets tries to leave Russian Colonialism after centuries of exploitation, cultural erasure. Moscow deploys troops and machine guns. Surviving rebels are arrested, and many are tortured to death https://www.academia.edu/479640/Two_...he_1940s_2005_
1937-47. Planning another colonization of Poland, Moscow claims all poles are foreign spies, launches genocide slaughtering over 111,000 of them, every 5th living under Russian rule, under the excuse of ‘protecting’ Russia https://operacja-polska.pl/nke in 1939, as a facade for a secret colonial deal with Hitler, Moscow claims the protection of ethnic minorities in Poland, invades it, and partitions it up. Russian colonial troops kill 150,000, deport 320,000, rape 100,000 Polish citizens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland Kremlin installs a soviet satellite regime in Poland by 1945. Tens of thousands of poles resist in the anti-colonial wolność i niezawisłość guerilla movement, but most get killed or deported https://ipn.gov.pl/en/brief-history-...-Soldiers.html
1939-40. Moscow schemes to recolonize finland via russian Colonialism deal with hitler, creates a puppet statelet, vows to protect it against the ‘fascist military clique in helsinki,’ and invades. amid heavy losses kremlin settled for 11% of finland https://babel.ua/en/texts/55473-82-y...war-in-archive

This is your USSR this is your revolution violent couped by lenin who turned it into a hell for the workers this is your history of your freedom let me have myn under the United states that liberated us and helped us after WWII this is all that this child has to say to you!

[Jimbuna]