Here we go again-Ukraine once again - Page 467

mapuc · 10-03-22, 05:54 PM

Lets hope it's another one of these fake news

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Putin is set to demonstrate his willingness to use weapons of mass destruction with a nuclear test on Ukraine’s borders, defence sources have warned - The Times

https://twitter.com/WarfareReports/s...89194693419008

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Skybird · 10-03-22, 06:26 PM

The former head of Ukrainian gas company Naftogaz, Andrij Koboljew, says that the explosives that blew up the pipelines in the Baltic got already mounted on the pipelines when it was build.

Gorpet · 10-03-22, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I know that, still Germans always "outclassed" the others in their desire to transfigure Russia. They alrerady did that durign the Bolshewist revolution and during the starvation haunting Russia at that time. Quite some auhtor and artist of German descent travelled Russia through those murderish troubling times, was confused by the mass dying he saw, ands still reported back home how great and wiodnerful Russia was, and oh the land, and oh the depth of the Russian soul, and how nature-connected. I often called the Ger,man hystericla romanticissts, since years I call them that and it is no offence, but a factual deception. Where Anglosaxon tradiiton "cold-heartedly" thinks and focus on ratio and realism, German tradition is to wallow in feeling the nature, feeling the devine, feeling this and feelign that and wallowing in sentimentalities of all kinds, until today (energy policy). Beuaiful arts and prose and painting sand music come form this. The darkest horrors and cold-hearted terrors also come form this. German sentimentality is merciless, and enforces its way with cruel determination to enforce its wellmeaningness on others. Its a deep-rooting receptivity for totalitarianism, disguised as collective solidarity - but this solidarity does not tolerate rejection and dissenters. The beginning of this self-deformation probably were the Prussian social order. I do not think Germans/y will ever be cured from this without eradicating "Germaness" from the history books. I also think the only thing the world can and should do is to indeed contain Germany, like political philosphers recommended already after WW1 and again after WW2. The looks of the crisdis in Europe today last but niot least have been fundamentally helped to shape up by Germany and its atottude to always knwo evertyhign better. "Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen" - thats a valid slogan, still. It has started to backfire against us. We have no right to complain over that.

Well dog welcome to the pack.It's just not you, watch the rest of the world,under the auspicious of those in control now.Wipe away thru youth what they were taught about Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, and Fascism.
Yes there is a new religion on the horizon a belief in Scientist.
And this new belief and eventual worship, will cause the death of more people on this planet than any religious or culture beliefs. Yes there must be a progression of Humanity and the next level will be in the year 2525 if man can survive. Youi old dog i'll se you at gates of Valhalla.And we Caucasians shall drink wine together again..Oh hell i used a term that is not allowable today.LOL ��

Gorpet · 10-03-22, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

'Stupid and absurd' to say Russia behind gas leaks - Kremlin

The Kremlin says it is "stupid and absurd" to conclude that Russia was behind gas leaks on the Nord Stream pipelines to Europe.

The European Union has said the leaks in the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines from Russia to Europe were caused by sabotage - but did not directly accuse Russia.

Ukraine has gone further, accusing Russia of a "terrorist attack".

"It's quite predictable and also predictably stupid to give voice to these kinds of narratives - predictably stupid and absurd," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

"This is a big problem for us because, firstly, both lines of Nord Stream 2 are filled with gas - the entire system is ready to pump gas and the gas is very expensive... Now the gas is flying off into the air," he said.

People should wait for findings from an investigation before drawing conclusions, Peskov added.

Oh no Jim,Was it Russia?They couldn't just shut valves off on their end.The Russian people are stupid and uneducated right. It took the rest of the world to run that pipe right? So the question is who was responsible for that section of pipe? Yes what country is responsible for the security of that pipe.Does a country have to have a billion dollar submarine hovering? Can't we all eat goats an fish.? And shiver in the coming winter. I bet Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his elite. If their not in the UK or US they certainly will not suffer a winter at all. Where are the reporters showing the rest of the world where they really are.Oh that's right he's only on the back lines with the rusted blown out tanks . Always asking for more money and equipment.And haven't the world seen this before.Just before the puppets get their asses kicked and they fly away. To live a good life .

Onkel Neal · 10-03-22, 11:38 PM

Russia better not use nukes on Ukraine. The Russian people better wake up and pull their head out of their ass. There won't be any business as usual with Russians if this happens.

Gorpet · 10-04-22, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Russia better not use nukes on Ukraine. The Russian people better wake up and pull their head out of their ass. There won't be any business as usual with Russians if this happens.

What? The American people better wake up.We don't have bite on a dogs bone over there.That's an EU problem' It's their backyard. Their so great let's see how they can handle it without the Americans for 1 time.

Skybird · 10-04-22, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

The Russian people better wake up and pull their head out of their ass. T

Thats why the Finnish have closed the border for Russians, they want the Russians to stay home and start attacking the regime instead of leaving and by that letting pressure out of the kettle. I saw a TV docu where several officials - border police, local administrators, but also ordinary people - explicitly said so.

However, if we establish a welcome culture for young men trying to flee from the war "service" they need to do in Russia, and this info makes the round in the Russian military, this again weakens Putin's effort to maintain the war and the neosovjet military. It could encourage more defections.

So there are arguments pro and contra, and good ones. I find this hard to call.

Jimbuna · 10-04-22, 05:14 AM

‘Don't expect good news' Putin humiliated as Russian media turn on mobilisation

Vladimir Putin has ordered 300,000 additional reserve troops to report for military training in order to boost invading forces on the frontline in Ukraine. The decision has already sparked huge public backlash within Russia, as families, in fear of being torn apart by mandatory military call-ups, have headed for escape via accessible land borders. While Kremlin-controlled media has remained fiercely supportive of the special military operation, acting to provide a shield of misinformation on the Russian military performance, the mobilisation has marked a notable shift in the presenters' attitude. Formerly unwilling to acknowledge any sign of Russian weakness in the conflict, the state media pundits have now warned citizens not to expect positive developments in the war over the coming weeks, despite the flood of mobilised reserve soldiers.

Speaking on state-controlled network Russia One, television host Vladimir Solovyov said: "In real life, I'd really like us to attack and take Kyiv tomorrow but I am aware that, for those 300,000 who are undergoing partial mobilisation, time is required for that.

"Time is required for their training, for their combat coordination, and for them to have everything they need for entering battle.

"This means that for a certain period of time, things won't be easy for us.

"Right now, we shouldn't be expecting good news. We need to possess 'long will' and strategic patience."

His declaration comes just days after Solovyov bashed the "idiot" Kremlin generals in charge of the partial mobilisation logistics.

Again, speaking on Russia One, Solovyov said: "Every idiot in those positions, who decided to call up a musician, or a person who has a million illnesses, or to approach a student despite the special decree explaining exemptions - such a person should not simply be punished, he should be the first to be sent to the frontlines."

His fiery speech came after reports emerged of individuals unfit or otherwise exempt from the military call-up received papers demanding they report for service.

Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu has asserted the 300,000 men will be drawn from a select pool of well-trained men with prior military experience.

Speaking on state-controlled network Russia One, television host Vladimir Solovyov said: "In real life, I'd really like us to attack and take Kyiv tomorrow but I am aware that, for those 300,000 who are undergoing partial mobilisation, time is required for that.

"Time is required for their training, for their combat coordination, and for them to have everything they need for entering battle.

"This means that for a certain period of time, things won't be easy for us.

"Right now, we shouldn't be expecting good news. We need to possess 'long will' and strategic patience."

His declaration comes just days after Solovyov bashed the "idiot" Kremlin generals in charge of the partial mobilisation logistics.

Again, speaking on Russia One, Solovyov said: "Every idiot in those positions, who decided to call up a musician, or a person who has a million illnesses, or to approach a student despite the special decree explaining exemptions - such a person should not simply be punished, he should be the first to be sent to the frontlines."

His fiery speech came after reports emerged of individuals unfit or otherwise exempt from the military call-up received papers demanding they report for service.

Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu has asserted the 300,000 men will be drawn from a select pool of well-trained men with prior military experience.

In an unusual shift in Vladimir Putin's leadership style, the Russian President has himself acknowledged a shortfall in the organisation of the partial mobilisation scheme.

During a video conference with members of the Security Council, President Putin said: "A lot of questions are being raised during this mobilisation campaign, and we must promptly correct our mistakes and not repeat them in the future."

He added that there had been errors regarding some groups being pressured to report for mobilisation, including individuals with "chronic illnesses" or men already over the call-up age.

Vladimir Putin continued: "We need to deal with each case separately, and if a mistake has been made, I repeat, it must be corrected, and those who have been drafted without proper grounds must be sent home."

The Ministry of Defence declared: "Putin's unusually rapid acknowledgment of problems highlights the dysfunction of the mobilisation over its first week.

"Local officials are likely unclear on the exact scope and legal rationale of the campaign. They have almost certainly drafted some personnel who are outside the definitions claimed by Putin and the Ministry of Defence."

Solovyov's doubt surrounding the partial mobilisation effort comes as the Russian military was forced to withdraw from the strategically important town of Lyman in Donetsk.

Some of the troops operating in Lyman were suggested to have been voluntarily mobilised units that suffered heavy casualties during the withdrawal, according to an intelligence report from the UK Government.

The retreat has sparked further criticism of the Russian military performance given that the Kremlin had announced plans to formally annex both the Donetsk and Luhansk areas of the Donbas region.

The decision to abandon Lyman undermines the Kremlin's efforts to legitimise their claim to the region through a series of recently concluded pseudo-referendums.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...2df0a4caca8e50

Jimbuna · 10-04-22, 05:35 AM

Jimbuna · 10-04-22, 05:37 AM

Peskov on Ukraine’s refusal to negotiate with Putin: "We will wait for change in position of Zelensky or future president of Ukraine"

Putin’s spokesman Dmytro Peskov commented on the NSDC’s decision on the impossibility of negotiations with Putin.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the propaganda publication RIA Novosti.

"We will wait for a change in the position of Zelensky or the future president of Ukraine," he said.

It will be recalled that earlier Zelensky approved the NSDC's decision on the "impossibility of negotiations" with Putin. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371402

Jimbuna · 10-04-22, 05:40 AM

"They were beaten. They were not fed. They were tied to the ceiling. Girls’ nails were torn off and they were raped. Boys were wound with wires on their genitals", - war crimes of the Russian occupiers in Kozacha Lopan. VIDEO

The occupiers from Russia turned the center of Kozacha Lopan into a place of torture and horror. Hundreds of Ukrainian citizens went through these basements and inhumane tests.

As reported by Censor.NET with reference to the Eastern Operational-Territorial Association of NSU, Guardsman Andrii, who is on duty in de-occupied Kozacha Lopan, spoke about the war crimes of the occupiers almost every day. He has to communicate a lot with the local population. He heard many testimonies about the terrorist regime established by the invaders in the village.

The occupiers from Russia turned the center of Kozacha Lopan into a place of torture and horror. Hundreds of Ukrainian citizens went through these basements and inhumane tests.

As reported by Censor.NET with reference to the Eastern Operational-Territorial Association of NSU, Guardsman Andrii, who is on duty in de-occupied Kozacha Lopan, spoke about the war crimes of the occupiers almost every day. He has to communicate a lot with the local population. He heard many testimonies about the terrorist regime established by the invaders in the village.
"Here is this basement. The Russians kept and tortured people in it. There is another building. Interrogations were also held there. There we found a TA-57 phone, the so-called "tapik" used for torture - it turns on, terminals are attached to the body, and it is electrocuting. There were civilians, prisoners of war, and soldiers from the army," Andrii said.

The enemy in the same basement did not hesitate to use drugs and alcohol, eat, have fun, etc. This information is also confirmed by representatives of local self-government bodies. Moreover, there were several such places only in Kozacha Lopan.

"Many young girls were raped by the invaders. They made a basement for torture. Our volunteers were thrown there. They were killed. They were not fed. They were tied to the ceiling. Girls' nails were torn off. The boys' genitals were wound with wires. Our city council deputy passed through this basement. His teeth were knocked out, his ribs were broken. He was taken to Russia. According to the latest information, he was tried, but he is in a Russian prison," says the head of the Derhachy territorial community, Viacheslav Zadorenko.

He added that the Russians intimidated the parents and forced them to write orders to take the children to health camps.

The Russian invaders also constantly satisfied their mercantile needs at the expense of the local population. Collaborators often helped him in this.

"Russian looters - five men with machine guns came: "Grandfather, open the shed!" I said: "What did you forget there?" And they said: "Open it, we told you! Bring out the Yamaha scooter. And I tell him that it's not mine, I'm eighty years old and I don't have the strength to carry it all. So they rolled it out themselves. I barely restrained myself from hitting him, because he has a machine gun, and before that he wanted to shoot the dog," said local resident Anatoliy Poltorachenko. Source: https://censor.net/en/v3371382

ET2SN · 10-04-22, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

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Speaking on state-controlled network Russia One, television host Vladimir Solovyov said: "In real life, I'd really like us to attack and take Kyiv tomorrow but I am aware that, for those 300,000 who are undergoing partial mobilisation, time is required for that.

"Time is required for their training, for their combat coordination, and for them to have everything they need for entering battle.

"This means that for a certain period of time, things won't be easy for us.

"Right now, we shouldn't be expecting good news. We need to possess 'long will' and strategic patience."

Here's an idea.

Next time, don't invade another country based only on a whim.

Russia will be looking up to North Korea for quite some time, possibly for generations. Doing invasions at the drop of a hat and using threats of dropping nukes isn't good for business.

mapuc · 10-04-22, 07:54 AM

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It is really the one date that makes everyone in the Kremlin shake with fear. That day is October 7, Vladimir Putin’s birthday. On that day, there is a roll call of the president’s magnificent achievements that year.

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/put...s-for-ukraine/

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Shady Bill · 10-04-22, 08:32 AM

The world needs to stop with this Woke sentiment that somehow this is the work of one crazy maniac (Putin) and all those poor Russians suffer under his regime. The vast majority of Russians support their leader and the war on Ukraine.

The only solution to this conflict is the complete breakup of Russia. Divide the land between semi-reliable Chinese interests, Saudi partners and create a Greater European Union. I think countries like Germany, Poland and Ukraine should be given large tracts of Russian land and access to a free Russian labor force to compensate for the burdens placed on these nations.

This all sounds very harsh, and I certainly don't mean to offend. Putin is threatening nuclear war.

When a man shows his true self, believe him.

ET2SN · 10-04-22, 09:05 AM

Fortunately, or unfortunately, there is a LOT of political and economic hay to be made.

There are countries more than ready to sell energy (Oil, gas, petroleum, nuke power, etc.) to Europe.

That old imitative for Russia to develop the Artic for global trade sounds (now) like its wasted money.

10-03-22, 06:26 PM	#6992
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,740 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The former head of Ukrainian gas company Naftogaz, Andrij Koboljew, says that the explosives that blew up the pipelines in the Baltic got already mounted on the pipelines when it was build. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-03-22, 11:38 PM	#6995
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Russia better not use nukes on Ukraine. The Russian people better wake up and pull their head out of their ass. There won't be any business as usual with Russians if this happens. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

10-04-22, 05:14 AM	#6998
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,168 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	‘Don't expect good news' Putin humiliated as Russian media turn on mobilisation Vladimir Putin has ordered 300,000 additional reserve troops to report for military training in order to boost invading forces on the frontline in Ukraine. The decision has already sparked huge public backlash within Russia, as families, in fear of being torn apart by mandatory military call-ups, have headed for escape via accessible land borders. While Kremlin-controlled media has remained fiercely supportive of the special military operation, acting to provide a shield of misinformation on the Russian military performance, the mobilisation has marked a notable shift in the presenters' attitude. Formerly unwilling to acknowledge any sign of Russian weakness in the conflict, the state media pundits have now warned citizens not to expect positive developments in the war over the coming weeks, despite the flood of mobilised reserve soldiers. Speaking on state-controlled network Russia One, television host Vladimir Solovyov said: "In real life, I'd really like us to attack and take Kyiv tomorrow but I am aware that, for those 300,000 who are undergoing partial mobilisation, time is required for that. "Time is required for their training, for their combat coordination, and for them to have everything they need for entering battle. "This means that for a certain period of time, things won't be easy for us. "Right now, we shouldn't be expecting good news. We need to possess 'long will' and strategic patience." His declaration comes just days after Solovyov bashed the "idiot" Kremlin generals in charge of the partial mobilisation logistics. Again, speaking on Russia One, Solovyov said: "Every idiot in those positions, who decided to call up a musician, or a person who has a million illnesses, or to approach a student despite the special decree explaining exemptions - such a person should not simply be punished, he should be the first to be sent to the frontlines." His fiery speech came after reports emerged of individuals unfit or otherwise exempt from the military call-up received papers demanding they report for service. Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu has asserted the 300,000 men will be drawn from a select pool of well-trained men with prior military experience. Speaking on state-controlled network Russia One, television host Vladimir Solovyov said: "In real life, I'd really like us to attack and take Kyiv tomorrow but I am aware that, for those 300,000 who are undergoing partial mobilisation, time is required for that. "Time is required for their training, for their combat coordination, and for them to have everything they need for entering battle. "This means that for a certain period of time, things won't be easy for us. "Right now, we shouldn't be expecting good news. We need to possess 'long will' and strategic patience." His declaration comes just days after Solovyov bashed the "idiot" Kremlin generals in charge of the partial mobilisation logistics. Again, speaking on Russia One, Solovyov said: "Every idiot in those positions, who decided to call up a musician, or a person who has a million illnesses, or to approach a student despite the special decree explaining exemptions - such a person should not simply be punished, he should be the first to be sent to the frontlines." His fiery speech came after reports emerged of individuals unfit or otherwise exempt from the military call-up received papers demanding they report for service. Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu has asserted the 300,000 men will be drawn from a select pool of well-trained men with prior military experience. In an unusual shift in Vladimir Putin's leadership style, the Russian President has himself acknowledged a shortfall in the organisation of the partial mobilisation scheme. During a video conference with members of the Security Council, President Putin said: "A lot of questions are being raised during this mobilisation campaign, and we must promptly correct our mistakes and not repeat them in the future." He added that there had been errors regarding some groups being pressured to report for mobilisation, including individuals with "chronic illnesses" or men already over the call-up age. Vladimir Putin continued: "We need to deal with each case separately, and if a mistake has been made, I repeat, it must be corrected, and those who have been drafted without proper grounds must be sent home." The Ministry of Defence declared: "Putin's unusually rapid acknowledgment of problems highlights the dysfunction of the mobilisation over its first week. "Local officials are likely unclear on the exact scope and legal rationale of the campaign. They have almost certainly drafted some personnel who are outside the definitions claimed by Putin and the Ministry of Defence." Solovyov's doubt surrounding the partial mobilisation effort comes as the Russian military was forced to withdraw from the strategically important town of Lyman in Donetsk. Some of the troops operating in Lyman were suggested to have been voluntarily mobilised units that suffered heavy casualties during the withdrawal, according to an intelligence report from the UK Government. The retreat has sparked further criticism of the Russian military performance given that the Kremlin had announced plans to formally annex both the Donetsk and Luhansk areas of the Donbas region. The decision to abandon Lyman undermines the Kremlin's efforts to legitimise their claim to the region through a series of recently concluded pseudo-referendums. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...2df0a4caca8e50 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-04-22, 05:35 AM	#6999
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,168 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	__________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-04-22, 05:37 AM	#7000
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,168 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Peskov on Ukraine’s refusal to negotiate with Putin: "We will wait for change in position of Zelensky or future president of Ukraine" Putin’s spokesman Dmytro Peskov commented on the NSDC’s decision on the impossibility of negotiations with Putin. This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the propaganda publication RIA Novosti. "We will wait for a change in the position of Zelensky or the future president of Ukraine," he said. It will be recalled that earlier Zelensky approved the NSDC's decision on the "impossibility of negotiations" with Putin. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371402 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-04-22, 05:40 AM	#7001
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,168 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	"They were beaten. They were not fed. They were tied to the ceiling. Girls’ nails were torn off and they were raped. Boys were wound with wires on their genitals", - war crimes of the Russian occupiers in Kozacha Lopan. VIDEO The occupiers from Russia turned the center of Kozacha Lopan into a place of torture and horror. Hundreds of Ukrainian citizens went through these basements and inhumane tests. As reported by Censor.NET with reference to the Eastern Operational-Territorial Association of NSU, Guardsman Andrii, who is on duty in de-occupied Kozacha Lopan, spoke about the war crimes of the occupiers almost every day. He has to communicate a lot with the local population. He heard many testimonies about the terrorist regime established by the invaders in the village. The occupiers from Russia turned the center of Kozacha Lopan into a place of torture and horror. Hundreds of Ukrainian citizens went through these basements and inhumane tests. As reported by Censor.NET with reference to the Eastern Operational-Territorial Association of NSU, Guardsman Andrii, who is on duty in de-occupied Kozacha Lopan, spoke about the war crimes of the occupiers almost every day. He has to communicate a lot with the local population. He heard many testimonies about the terrorist regime established by the invaders in the village. "Here is this basement. The Russians kept and tortured people in it. There is another building. Interrogations were also held there. There we found a TA-57 phone, the so-called "tapik" used for torture - it turns on, terminals are attached to the body, and it is electrocuting. There were civilians, prisoners of war, and soldiers from the army," Andrii said. The enemy in the same basement did not hesitate to use drugs and alcohol, eat, have fun, etc. This information is also confirmed by representatives of local self-government bodies. Moreover, there were several such places only in Kozacha Lopan. "Many young girls were raped by the invaders. They made a basement for torture. Our volunteers were thrown there. They were killed. They were not fed. They were tied to the ceiling. Girls' nails were torn off. The boys' genitals were wound with wires. Our city council deputy passed through this basement. His teeth were knocked out, his ribs were broken. He was taken to Russia. According to the latest information, he was tried, but he is in a Russian prison," says the head of the Derhachy territorial community, Viacheslav Zadorenko. He added that the Russians intimidated the parents and forced them to write orders to take the children to health camps. The Russian invaders also constantly satisfied their mercantile needs at the expense of the local population. Collaborators often helped him in this. "Russian looters - five men with machine guns came: "Grandfather, open the shed!" I said: "What did you forget there?" And they said: "Open it, we told you! Bring out the Yamaha scooter. And I tell him that it's not mine, I'm eighty years old and I don't have the strength to carry it all. So they rolled it out themselves. I barely restrained myself from hitting him, because he has a machine gun, and before that he wanted to shoot the dog," said local resident Anatoliy Poltorachenko. Source: https://censor.net/en/v3371382 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-04-22, 08:32 AM	#7004
Shady Bill Silent but not deadly Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Somewhere north of AN34 Posts: 171 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Future of Russia; There is no future The world needs to stop with this Woke sentiment that somehow this is the work of one crazy maniac (Putin) and all those poor Russians suffer under his regime. The vast majority of Russians support their leader and the war on Ukraine. The only solution to this conflict is the complete breakup of Russia. Divide the land between semi-reliable Chinese interests, Saudi partners and create a Greater European Union. I think countries like Germany, Poland and Ukraine should be given large tracts of Russian land and access to a free Russian labor force to compensate for the burdens placed on these nations. This all sounds very harsh, and I certainly don't mean to offend. Putin is threatening nuclear war. When a man shows his true self, believe him.

10-04-22, 09:05 AM	#7005
ET2SN Ocean Warrior Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 2,652 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Fortunately, or unfortunately, there is a LOT of political and economic hay to be made. There are countries more than ready to sell energy (Oil, gas, petroleum, nuke power, etc.) to Europe. That old imitative for Russia to develop the Artic for global trade sounds (now) like its wasted money.