Here we go again-Ukraine once again - Page 439

Jimbuna · 09-22-22, 09:24 AM

Queues have sprung up along Russia's border as men attempt to leave the country amid a military call-up for the war in Ukraine.

President Vladimir Putin announced a partial military mobilisation on Wednesday, which could see 300,000 people summoned to serve in the war.

The Kremlin says reports of fighting-age men fleeing are exaggerated.

But on the border with Georgia, miles-long queues of vehicles have formed including men trying to escape the war.

One man, who did not want to be named, told the BBC's Rayhan Demytrie he had grabbed his passport and headed to the border, without packing anything else, immediately after President' Putin's announcement - because he fell into the group that could potentially be sent to the war.

Some witnesses estimated the queue of cars at the Upper Lars checkpoint to be some 5km (3 miles) long, while another group said it had taken seven hours to get across the border. Video from the scene showed some drivers leaving their cars or trucks temporarily in standstill traffic.

Georgia is one of the few neighbouring countries that Russians can enter without needing a apply for a visa. Finland, which shares a 1,300km (800 mile) border with Russia, does require a visa for travel, and also reported an increase in traffic overnight - but said it was at a manageable level.

Other destinations reachable by air - such as Istanbul, Belgrade or Dubai - have seen ticket prices skyrocket immediately after the military call-up was announced, with some destinations sold out completely. Turkish media have reported a large spike in one-way ticket sales, while remaining flights to non-visa destinations can cost thousands of euros.

The call-up sparked protests in major Russian cities including Moscow and St Petersburg on Tuesday, resulting in a reported 1,300 arrests.

There were also reports from Russia that some of those detained for protesting had been handed draft papers while in custody at police stations. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, when asked about the reports, said that doing so was not against the law.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62996212

Jimbuna · 09-22-22, 09:47 AM

Skybird · 09-22-22, 11:28 AM

^ Excellent analysis. Superb. That guy knows his stuff. He forces me to change some details in my views. Is he a well-known name?

Buddahaid · 09-22-22, 12:29 PM

He's interviewed in these videos.

Jimbuna · 09-22-22, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

^ Excellent analysis. Superb. That guy knows his stuff. He forces me to change some details in my views. Is he a well-known name?

Justin Bronk is the Research Fellow for Airpower and Technology in the Military Sciences team at RUSI. He is also Editor of the RUSI Defence Systems online journal. Justin's particular areas of expertise include the modern combat air environment, Russian and Chinese ground-based air defences and fast jet capabilities, unmanned combat aerial vehicles and novel weapons technology. He has written extensively for RUSI and a variety of external publications, as well as appearing regularly in the international media. Justin is also a part-time doctoral candidate at the Defence Studies Department of Kings College London and is a private glider and light aircraft pilot.

Jimbuna · 09-22-22, 12:46 PM

Czech Republic won't issue visas to Russian men

Rob Cameron
BBC Prague Correspondent

The Czech Foreign Minister Jan Lipavsky has said his country will not issue humanitarian visas to Russian men fleeing mobilisation orders.

Lipavsky told the Czech news server Novinky.cz that while he understood their motivations, such cases did not meet the conditions for a humanitarian visa.

The Czech Republic joins other countries such as Latvia which has said it will not provide sanctuary to Russians seeking to avoid the draft on humanitarian grounds. Germany, on the other hand, says it will do so.

The Czech Foreign Ministry has also confirmed it has written to two NHL teams to say Prague would not issue visas to Russian ice hockey players wishing to travel to the Czech capital to take part in the NHL's Global Series games.

Prague will host two matches between the San Jose Sharks and the Nashville Predators, both of which have Russian players, on 7 and 8 October.

10,000 Russians volunteer for mobilisation - report

Following Russia's announcement yesterday that thousands of extra troops will be called up to fight the war in Ukraine, a Russian military spokesman has said that around 10,000 Russians have already volunteered of their own accord on the first day of the mobilisation drive.

"About 10,000 citizens arrived at recruitment offices of their own accord without waiting for a summons," Vladimir Tsimlyansky said in comments quoted by Russian news agency Interfax.

The BBC is unable to verify the figure.

Over 1,300 protesters have been detained for protesting against the mobilisation announcement between Wednesday and today, according to the latest figures from Russian human rights NGO OVD-Info.

Jimbuna · 09-22-22, 12:56 PM

Jimbuna · 09-22-22, 01:03 PM

SSU showed footage of exchange of Ukrainian prisoners of war in Chernihiv region. VIDEO

The Security Service of Ukraine showed footage of the exchange of Ukrainian prisoners of war, which took place on September 21 in the Chernihiv region.

As Censor.NET informs about this with reference to the SSU press center.

"This event touched the whole of Ukraine. Many people worked to ensure that our Heroes finally returned home. This is, without exaggeration, a historic moment. We want to show unique footage of exactly how the exchange took place, the earliest and most sincere emotions of the Ukrainian defenders who knew - they will not be forgetten and will be definitely returned home.

And we will continue to fight until we free everyone who is still in captivity and win back the last piece of our land!", the message reads.

It will be recalled that on September 21, as a result of the exchange, 215 Ukrainian defenders, as well as 10 foreigners, were returned from Russian captivity. Instead, Putin's godfather Viktor Medvedchuk, who is suspected of treason, and 55 other Russian soldiers were returned to the Russian side. Source: https://censor.net/en/v3368985

Dargo · 09-22-22, 01:20 PM

After Putin announced mobilization in Russia, 90% of support for the "special operation" disappeared, said Russian opposition politician and journalist Igor Yakovenko in an interview with OBOZREVATEL. "A significant number of Russians were ready to support this war by sitting on the couch. But as soon as it touched their own lives, all that support disappeared. Nobody wants to die. It is unclear what you should give your own life for," he said. https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/st...81471316709376

Jimbuna · 09-22-22, 01:22 PM

^ That is so often the case and not only in Russia.

Dargo · 09-22-22, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^ That is so often the case and not only in Russia.

Prominent Russian human rights lawyer Pavel Chikov says he has been made aware of multiple reports of men in their 40s, 50s and even 60s receiving military call-up notices since yesterday reckon old meat must be slaughtered first.

Dargo · 09-22-22, 01:46 PM

“It’s not a partial mobilisation, it’s a 100% mobilisation.” Midnight summons, vodka-fueled farewells, and showdowns at the draft centers. Russia says it’s recruiting 300,000 but the real number could be 3x higher. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e_iOSApp_Other

Dargo · 09-22-22, 01:54 PM

See reports of many tank transports (T-80BV, BMP-2, BMP-1KSh, and T-62M tanks) the mass of untrained Russian conscripts will be unarmed or at best with ancient equipment of little utility against the modern weapons that Ukraine has and think that training will be short.

Dargo · 09-22-22, 02:29 PM

The war between Ukraine and Russia should be ended at the negotiating table as soon as possible, — Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi.

According to him, China calls for the resumption of the dialogue between Moscow and Kyiv without preconditions.
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/st...96699878195203

Dargo · 09-22-22, 03:15 PM

Mobilization going swell Anti-war protest held in Grozny
The Head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, confirmed that an anti-war protest was held in Grozny on 21 September. Opposition media suggest that mothers were detained following the protest, and their sons forced to sign up to fight.

Kadyrov shared a video message in his Telegram channel, in which he confirmed that an anti-mobilisation rally was held in Grozny — the first protest against the ruling regime in Kadyrov’s 15 years as head of the republic.

https://oc-media.org/anti-war-protest-held-in-grozny/

09-22-22, 09:24 AM	#6571
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,168 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Queues have sprung up along Russia's border as men attempt to leave the country amid a military call-up for the war in Ukraine. President Vladimir Putin announced a partial military mobilisation on Wednesday, which could see 300,000 people summoned to serve in the war. The Kremlin says reports of fighting-age men fleeing are exaggerated. But on the border with Georgia, miles-long queues of vehicles have formed including men trying to escape the war. One man, who did not want to be named, told the BBC's Rayhan Demytrie he had grabbed his passport and headed to the border, without packing anything else, immediately after President' Putin's announcement - because he fell into the group that could potentially be sent to the war. Some witnesses estimated the queue of cars at the Upper Lars checkpoint to be some 5km (3 miles) long, while another group said it had taken seven hours to get across the border. Video from the scene showed some drivers leaving their cars or trucks temporarily in standstill traffic. Georgia is one of the few neighbouring countries that Russians can enter without needing a apply for a visa. Finland, which shares a 1,300km (800 mile) border with Russia, does require a visa for travel, and also reported an increase in traffic overnight - but said it was at a manageable level. Other destinations reachable by air - such as Istanbul, Belgrade or Dubai - have seen ticket prices skyrocket immediately after the military call-up was announced, with some destinations sold out completely. Turkish media have reported a large spike in one-way ticket sales, while remaining flights to non-visa destinations can cost thousands of euros. The call-up sparked protests in major Russian cities including Moscow and St Petersburg on Tuesday, resulting in a reported 1,300 arrests. There were also reports from Russia that some of those detained for protesting had been handed draft papers while in custody at police stations. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, when asked about the reports, said that doing so was not against the law. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62996212 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-22-22, 09:47 AM	#6572
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09-22-22, 11:28 AM	#6573
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,744 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	^ Excellent analysis. Superb. That guy knows his stuff. He forces me to change some details in my views. Is he a well-known name? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-22-22, 12:29 PM	#6574
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,333 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	He's interviewed in these videos. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

09-22-22, 12:46 PM	#6576
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,168 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Czech Republic won't issue visas to Russian men Rob Cameron BBC Prague Correspondent The Czech Foreign Minister Jan Lipavsky has said his country will not issue humanitarian visas to Russian men fleeing mobilisation orders. Lipavsky told the Czech news server Novinky.cz that while he understood their motivations, such cases did not meet the conditions for a humanitarian visa. The Czech Republic joins other countries such as Latvia which has said it will not provide sanctuary to Russians seeking to avoid the draft on humanitarian grounds. Germany, on the other hand, says it will do so. The Czech Foreign Ministry has also confirmed it has written to two NHL teams to say Prague would not issue visas to Russian ice hockey players wishing to travel to the Czech capital to take part in the NHL's Global Series games. Prague will host two matches between the San Jose Sharks and the Nashville Predators, both of which have Russian players, on 7 and 8 October. 10,000 Russians volunteer for mobilisation - report Following Russia's announcement yesterday that thousands of extra troops will be called up to fight the war in Ukraine, a Russian military spokesman has said that around 10,000 Russians have already volunteered of their own accord on the first day of the mobilisation drive. "About 10,000 citizens arrived at recruitment offices of their own accord without waiting for a summons," Vladimir Tsimlyansky said in comments quoted by Russian news agency Interfax. The BBC is unable to verify the figure. Over 1,300 protesters have been detained for protesting against the mobilisation announcement between Wednesday and today, according to the latest figures from Russian human rights NGO OVD-Info. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-22-22, 12:56 PM	#6577
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09-22-22, 01:03 PM	#6578
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,168 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	SSU showed footage of exchange of Ukrainian prisoners of war in Chernihiv region. VIDEO The Security Service of Ukraine showed footage of the exchange of Ukrainian prisoners of war, which took place on September 21 in the Chernihiv region. As Censor.NET informs about this with reference to the SSU press center. "This event touched the whole of Ukraine. Many people worked to ensure that our Heroes finally returned home. This is, without exaggeration, a historic moment. We want to show unique footage of exactly how the exchange took place, the earliest and most sincere emotions of the Ukrainian defenders who knew - they will not be forgetten and will be definitely returned home. And we will continue to fight until we free everyone who is still in captivity and win back the last piece of our land!", the message reads. It will be recalled that on September 21, as a result of the exchange, 215 Ukrainian defenders, as well as 10 foreigners, were returned from Russian captivity. Instead, Putin's godfather Viktor Medvedchuk, who is suspected of treason, and 55 other Russian soldiers were returned to the Russian side. Source: https://censor.net/en/v3368985 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-22-22, 01:22 PM	#6580
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,168 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^ That is so often the case and not only in Russia. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!