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You put that up there what the hell are you looking for? Are you some how feeling less? I'm waiting.
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I was surprised to hear about this also, but then not so much, because the reigning Norwegian champ has a tendency towards the dramatic and often appears unstable.
I used to be an avid correspondence chess player. I would buy the packs of cards from USCF...I think they even came pre-stamped in those days. With the rise of the internet, and other modern perversions, sacred things like correspondence chess, and not cheating at chess, disappeared. I started going to chess clubs and some of the parks around Cali in the late 90s, and the more I would lose, I would see my opponents rise up from the table before me, look at me with pride and declare how they were smarter than I. It's at that moment I would pity them most. I never played chess again after that. I stick to games of chance. Godly things. |
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Isn't that obvious? Carlsen seems not to be the problem here. Itr seems instead that he is right.
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I haven't really studied the case in great detail. I kind of thought it was Carlsen being upset a 19 year old player could suddenly beat him, and somehow he felt this was impossible and therefor it must mean Niemann is cheating. I guess that might be true. Just because the guy cheated as a kid (he still is a kid), doesn't mean he is cheating now. Carlsen is someone who is very keen of attention. Even from a very young age, chess has been his entire identity. For him, to come to grips with being beaten by a 19 year old kid, it must challenge everything he knows and believes in. Because it shows that Niemann can do in years, what took Carlsen decades..and that must hurt. What shocked me more was the guys who cheated so blatantly at the fishing competition: (they were stuffing Walleye with lead) https://www.themeateater.com/fish/wa...eating-scandal |
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Playing online live however, that is somethign different to me, and I do not see it as correspondence chess at all, and here I take it as cheating indeed if players do not play themselves, but use assistances, although there are match formats where it is explicitly allowed - but then everbyody lnows that peope do it, and so its fine. What goes not is to use analysis helps of any kind, but claiming one does not. The cheat is in this lie. It was nice to have the chess matches we had in the forum, over ten years ago. I used a chess GUI to create and post the diagrams illustrating the moves, but I never had any reason to assume that somebody participating was using a chess engine, nor did I. Man, its so long ago. Many of us have had some good, some hot and some other times in this forum, hadn't we. ![]()
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Yea I agree. I played CC in the late 80s and very early 90s. I remember if I had a position that I wanted to analyze, it would often require me to ride my bicycle to my high school library. You really couldn't run CC as it once was. You would just have a group of people using their 2800 rated chess apps on their phones to cheat. It has become so easy to analyze any chess position to the nth degree, that it is almost hard to know where "analysis" ends and "cheating" begins. Interestingly enough, my chess correspondence hobby let me to start collecting stamps. I played with kids from Germany, The Netherlands, France...I would get all these little cards in the mail with the coolest, colorful stamps. European stamps always tended to contain more colors than American stamps. ..then they turned beautiful, lickable stamps into stickers..adults can't really collect stickers, so that ended that hobby. |
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