Is nothing sacred?

Buddahaid · 09-07-22, 06:52 PM

Nothing should be sacred.

Skybird · 09-08-22, 05:50 AM

"Empty vastness - no trace of holiness!" - Hui-Neng, Zen patriarch

Serious, the article reveals no proven evidence pro or agianst anythign and anyone.
But I know the problem is real, and a lot of cheating no longer happens just at online chess platforms (thats why I do not play there), but in professional touranment business, too. Modern elctronics... well, evertyhing has two sides.

I played correspondence chess, and there it was never considere dcheating if you used books for research in analysis. Many players played CC just to deepen their theoretical knowledge and analysing capabilities. Later, when software b ecame good enogzhh for the task, copmp0tuers entered this realm, too. I still do not see that as chetain in that context as long as it is not done in the hiodden while claiming one does not use it. CC is simply another context, and analysing in depth and with all means avilable is declared goal of the effort.

Three players I played with in this way (using emails instead of postcards, however), for 20 years, unfortunately all three fell victim to Corona. Never no more, they are gone.

In my youth days I played CC tournaments (via postcard) and in the German association, and successfully.

Chess is the game of games.

Platapus · 09-08-22, 05:17 PM

Unless there is evidence of cheating, we really can't assume that it happened.

As a recovering ChessNut, I have beaten players that were much better than I was. Whether that was due to my playing my best or my opponent playing their worst, it does happen. Not very often, but not impossible.

I have had my patzer butt kicked by players less experienced/skilled than I was.

. The later happening more often than the former.

Also at tournament levels, the physical and mental condition of the players has some influence.

Bottom line, there are several reasons why one particular person wins and another one loses with out assuming any cheating.

09-07-22, 06:52 PM	#1
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,321 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Nothing should be sacred. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

09-08-22, 05:50 AM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,634 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	"Empty vastness - no trace of holiness!" - Hui-Neng, Zen patriarch Serious, the article reveals no proven evidence pro or agianst anythign and anyone. But I know the problem is real, and a lot of cheating no longer happens just at online chess platforms (thats why I do not play there), but in professional touranment business, too. Modern elctronics... well, evertyhing has two sides. I played correspondence chess, and there it was never considere dcheating if you used books for research in analysis. Many players played CC just to deepen their theoretical knowledge and analysing capabilities. Later, when software b ecame good enogzhh for the task, copmp0tuers entered this realm, too. I still do not see that as chetain in that context as long as it is not done in the hiodden while claiming one does not use it. CC is simply another context, and analysing in depth and with all means avilable is declared goal of the effort. Three players I played with in this way (using emails instead of postcards, however), for 20 years, unfortunately all three fell victim to Corona. Never no more, they are gone. In my youth days I played CC tournaments (via postcard) and in the German association, and successfully. Chess is the game of games. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-08-22, 05:17 PM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,369 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Unless there is evidence of cheating, we really can't assume that it happened. As a recovering ChessNut, I have beaten players that were much better than I was. Whether that was due to my playing my best or my opponent playing their worst, it does happen. Not very often, but not impossible. I have had my patzer butt kicked by players less experienced/skilled than I was. . The later happening more often than the former. Also at tournament levels, the physical and mental condition of the players has some influence. Bottom line, there are several reasons why one particular person wins and another one loses with out assuming any cheating. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.