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Old 07-22-22, 08:00 AM   #1
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Quantum Pseudo-Telepathy Experiment Suggests Reality Doesn’t Exist Until You Observe It
Using quantum entangled particles, scientists have managed to overcome the limits of probability to win a theoretical game more times than should be possible.
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The idea that physical objects can exist in multiple states simultaneously is known as wave-particle duality and is demonstrated by the famous double slit experiment. Using this iconic set-up, scientists have established that photons (light particles) spread out through space like a wave when no one is watching, but “collapse” to a single fixed point the moment they are observed.
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This all translates loosely to: with the Hubble and Webb space telescopes(with their respective faults-mirror anomalies; meteor hits etc.) the universe simply doesn't exist w/o pics!??
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It means this: as long as you do not feel being slapped into your face by me, you haven't gotten slapped into your face by me.

Now, shall we? Who's first?
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Reality always comes into sharp focus when my alarm goes off in the morning......
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Don’t let the title fool ya. If you have the time, she has a good video is nuclear power green.


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There are those, including scientist who is fully convince that Matrix is more real than we think.. Meaning our perception of reality is made of dots.

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It means this: as long as you do not feel being slapped into your face by me, you haven't gotten slapped into your face by me.

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Why do people judge without understanding?
There is a real experiment where the particles of a photon behave absolutely differently depending on whether there is an observer or not. How do you explain it? I am not saying that there is no other explanation for this. But at the moment there is no other explanation other than that we live in a simulation. And this is more real than it seems, sooner or later on the scale of the game we will be able to come up with artificial intelligence that will think that it is alive. So where are the guarantees that we are not that artificial intelligence? Many scientists talk about this, because we have been using the principle of changing physics from the presence of an observer for a long time. And then we saw it in real life
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There are those, including scientist who is fully convince that Matrix is more real than we think.. Meaning our perception of reality is made of dots.

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Why do people judge without understanding?
There is a real experiment where the particles of a photon behave absolutely differently depending on whether there is an observer or not. How do you explain it? I am not saying that there is no other explanation for this. But at the moment there is no other explanation other than that we live in a simulation. And this is more real than it seems, sooner or later on the scale of the game we will be able to come up with artificial intelligence that will think that it is alive. So where are the guarantees that we are not that artificial intelligence? Many scientists talk about this, because we have been using the principle of changing physics from the presence of an observer for a long time. And then we saw it in real life
Thank you for your answer I read it with huge interest.

It also made me recall some episode of Through the Wormhole W. M.F

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There are those, including scientist who is fully convince that Matrix is more real than we think.. Meaning our perception of reality is made of dots.
We perceive "reality" not itself, "reality" by term and concept is only an abstraction. We realise however the results of the electric storm in our brains. The brain "interprets" the stimuli form our senses as "reality", but we cnanot say whether or nnto all people's brains tick the same way. We cannot say whether we share each other's "reality".

All we could say about "reality", necessarily is wrong. The more exactly we aim at it, the more precisely we miss it. For scientists, this is hard.

In principle, we are not static or separate beings, but processes of becoming aware of something.

What is it that perceives? Who is it who watches, listens, feels?

Who is it who is aware of the watcher?

The inner space, the outer space, the space between subatomic particles, the space between suns, galaxies, clusters of galaxies, the space between superclusters of clusters- its not several different spaces, its all just one empty space.

Or in the words of the Buddhist Heart Sutra: "Form is Emptiness, Emptiness is Form".

There is only one relevant question, but the question is already the answer to everything: "Why is not just Nothing?"

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Mit Namen benannt ist ist die Vielheit, ist äußere Form.
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The Being that can be comprehended, / is not the essence of the incomprehensible. / The conception that can be thought, / is not the image of the Eternal. / Nameless is the One, is inner being. / Named is the multiplicity, is outer form. / To let desirelessly, is to experience the secret inside. / To do with desires is to fall prey to the limited exterior. / The One and the Many are of the same origin, / Unequal only in appearance and in name. / Their common is the miracle, / The secret of this miracle / Is the gate to all understanding.
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Let me add something to the discussion

Nothingness can't and have never existed..There has always been something.

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I asked Werner Heisenberg what he thought about this.


He was not sure.
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